Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

I'd love to see Harley Davidson bringing a line-up of only electric and/or fuel injected bikes for 2016 and seeing the reactions to that.

No clue who's taking the decisions at Gibson, but technological advancements have to remain an option when you're got monopoly of a historic piece, you know. Can't force changes, otherwise you unsurprisingly risk alienating your customer base.

That vintage/transition/modern line-up idea is great, it would position and separate the product line, and Gibson should pay you guys for the tip.
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Diego said:
That vintage/transition/modern line-up idea is great, it would position and separate the product line, and Gibson should pay you guys for the tip.
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Thing is they already have that... Its just not how the haters want it but its there.

Look at it

Modern http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-Custom/Les-Paul-Axcess-Standard.aspx

Transition http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Traditional.aspx

Traditional http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2015/Custom/True-Historic-1959-Les-Paul.aspx


Gibson really has a ton of different models catering to different needs people just like to complain. Especially the guys who want figured tops and long tenons at 1980's prices.

Of course not all models will make everyone happy but its stupid to claim they are out of touch. I havent seen this quarters results but i know last quarter gibson was posting a profit. So people can hate on the 2015's all they want but someone is buying them. Gibson blowing them out to make room for 2016 models is normal. Gibson making small runs with normal tuners doesnt mean they are admitting a mistake either.
 
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Matzanias said:
I couldn't agree more. A Les Paul Standard should be nothing more than the tried and true formula - traditional neck, pick-up configuration and controls. Gibson could offer a choice of a 50's or 60's neck. Let them experiment with other models, but a standard should not have any new bells and whistles.
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I disagree to an extent. There is a reason they have both a Standard and a Traditional model. They probably shouldn't be putting all the new features on the Standard, but I see no problem with experimenting.
 
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Diego said:
I'd love to see Harley Davidson bringing a line-up of only electric and/or fuel injected bikes for 2016 and seeing the reactions to that.

No clue who's taking the decisions at Gibson, but technological advancements have to remain an option when you're got monopoly of a historic piece, you know. Can't force changes, otherwise you unsurprisingly risk alienating your customer base.

That vintage/transition/modern line-up idea is great, it would position and separate the product line, and Gibson should pay you guys for the tip.
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All Harleys since 06 or 08 have been fuel injected
 
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allbutromeo said:
All Harleys since 06 or 08 have been fuel injected
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Oh. I thought only the V-Rod had EFI and the rest were all carburetors.
Well, I guess I missed that reaction back then. :laughing:

I guess I just assumed their product lines were a bit more mushy than they really are. But still, I find the price difference between the historic and modern versions of the Les Paul surprising.
A jump from $2000 to $8500 (even if not real street price) just seems too much, particularly when the least technological instrument is the most expensive. I imagine the Historics are from the Custom Shop.

I'll just shut up and go play my Korean and Chinese guitars. :barf:
 
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Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

PFDarkside said:
The funny thing about the reverse V...

I thought the Guitar of the Week was a cool way to have some unique guitars. Some saw an opportunity for collectables. So many people snatched up the reverse V as a collectable since it was so off the wall, that they actually did two weeks of it. It's actually the most plentiful guitar of the week from that era, because of the collectors that wanted a rare guitar!
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How many have you seen played on stage? The Reverse V is a sideshow freak, hence it's collector's appeal. People think they'll get rich decades from now, as with the original '58 V's. That's a long shot. They're not buying them to play them.
 
Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Hmmm... No-one's mentioned that the reason sales may be off (if they are off) could have something to do with the across-the-board price increase more so than the tech updates.


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Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Diego said:
I'd love to see Harley Davidson bringing a line-up of only electric and/or fuel injected bikes for 2016 and seeing the reactions to that.

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Harley's are fuel injected, some are even aircooled
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Gibson should IMO always have a Traditional line, it makes no sense whatsoever not to.

Beyond that why wouldn't they take some chances and make some modern upgrades and see how they fly?
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Wattage said:
Gibson should IMO always have a Traditional line, it makes no sense whatsoever not to.

Beyond that why wouldn't they take some chances and make some modern upgrades and see how they fly?
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Agreed
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

They are already shipping 2016s. Big thread over on the MLP main forum. Some GC employees have posted pics of them via Twitter or FB or whatever. A couple studio Les Pauls, and SG standard, and a LP trad or Standard. They all look "normal" i.e. like pre 2014 models.
 
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pretty much all good news from what I see except for........how is that Firebird back to being somewhat affordable!?!? I paid that much for one on a super blowout back in 2013! Damn you! Oh well.
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Soft case on sg standard now, so maybe the same with the bird?
 
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So, I wonder if there are some going to be some real good stupid deals of the day on left over 2015's in the not too distant future.
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Guess they took enough of a hit in the pocketbook to realize that they need to listen to their customers!

BTW, I remember when the Harley V-Rod came out; the biggest complaint was that it looked more like a Yamaha than a Harley - just goes to show, you can't mess with a classic design.
 
Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Edgecrusher said:
its stupid to claim they are out of touch.
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'Stupid'? Let's see, for 2016 they've reversed most of the 2015 changes back to what they had in 2014, and rolled back prices 20-25% to 2014 levels. 2015's not looking like it was particularly 'in touch' with their customer base. To the untrained eye it could appear that they didn't do much research on what customers wanted, and wanted to pay extra for, and had to pretty well scrap what they blundered into in 2015. One would almost think that the boys in the corner offices decided they knew what was best for the guitar-playing public and didn't need to bother consulting potential buyers. That approach has gotten many a manufacturer in trouble.

It's not just 'Gibson haters' complaining. There's a lot of Gibson lovers wondering what Gibson management was thinking that they got so far off-track with the 2015 line. The changes incorporated into the 2016 line are an admission that 'We should have listened to you.'
 
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