Intoxicate
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Hello,
which PUs would you suggest for a Les Paul to sound like Knopflers "Brothers in arms"?
which PUs would you suggest for a Les Paul to sound like Knopflers "Brothers in arms"?
"Brothers in arms" Sound
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Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
Hi there Intoxicate. Let me ask...are you asking about the song or whole Brothers in Arms album?
Hi there Intoxicate. Let me ask...are you asking about the song or whole Brothers in Arms album?
Intoxicate
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
Just the song, especially the long solo-parts sound amazing to me! =)
Just the song, especially the long solo-parts sound amazing to me! =)
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
T4D is right on spot with the Antiquity's or Seths in a LP...
I don't know what amp Mr. Knopfler used for this but it was probably his '59 Burst through... JTM45 or Tweed Bassman maybe? (just guessing
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T4D is right on spot with the Antiquity's or Seths in a LP...
I don't know what amp Mr. Knopfler used for this but it was probably his '59 Burst through... JTM45 or Tweed Bassman maybe? (just guessing
)Metalblaze
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
I think this is the most critical. I came very close to the tone of the opening riff of "Money for nothing" like that with even an EMG 81.
I think this is the most critical. I came very close to the tone of the opening riff of "Money for nothing" like that with even an EMG 81.
Intoxicate
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
Thanks guys, i'll go with the Pearly Gates and try the Wah-Wah-Setting.
I think the PG Set will suit the other things I play (like Lynard Skynard, early Aerosmith) better because of the slightly higher output.
Thanks guys, i'll go with the Pearly Gates and try the Wah-Wah-Setting.
I think the PG Set will suit the other things I play (like Lynard Skynard, early Aerosmith) better because of the slightly higher output.
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
That should work ok, just maybe roll off the highs and back up the vol a little.
That should work ok, just maybe roll off the highs and back up the vol a little.
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
spot on advice for how to make the PGs get closest
and best advice of all is to play with your fingers instead of with a pick ... mess around with where you pluck the strings (i.e closer to the bridge or closer to the neck, etc) ... that's a BIG part of the total resulting sound right there
spot on advice for how to make the PGs get closest
and best advice of all is to play with your fingers instead of with a pick ... mess around with where you pluck the strings (i.e closer to the bridge or closer to the neck, etc) ... that's a BIG part of the total resulting sound right there
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
It's seems so obvious doesn't it? Playing with your fingers gives you the final ingredient to Knophler's tone, whether it's with a Les Paul, or a Strat.
It's seems so obvious doesn't it? Playing with your fingers gives you the final ingredient to Knophler's tone, whether it's with a Les Paul, or a Strat.
noth
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
Here's kind of a tough question, then. If a wah-wah pedal is set half-way, I presume it has specific fixed frequency and phase settings at that particular point. Could this be duplicated with the settings of a modeler amp, where I have control of a lot of different effects (Fender GDEC)? I'm working on the song Brothers In Arms, and it would be nice to get closer to the right sound.
Thx,
Noth
Here's kind of a tough question, then. If a wah-wah pedal is set half-way, I presume it has specific fixed frequency and phase settings at that particular point. Could this be duplicated with the settings of a modeler amp, where I have control of a lot of different effects (Fender GDEC)? I'm working on the song Brothers In Arms, and it would be nice to get closer to the right sound.
Thx,
Noth
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
I suppose you could cut/boost the relative frequencies to get you close. It'd be trial and error, in much the same way as you'd have to rock the wah slightly to get the sound.
I suppose you could cut/boost the relative frequencies to get you close. It'd be trial and error, in much the same way as you'd have to rock the wah slightly to get the sound.
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
I do know that there are pedals out there that mimic a half-c0cked wah. Can't think of any names, but I'm sure somebody will know.
I do know that there are pedals out there that mimic a half-c0cked wah. Can't think of any names, but I'm sure somebody will know.
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
to mimic a half open wah, you are gonna need some kinda parametric EQ to match the Q and res freq of the wah circuit .. dunno if you have that or not .. you might be able to get a reasonable facsimile with an auto wah set slow or some kind of pick-sensitive envelope filter if ou have it
good luck
t4d
to mimic a half open wah, you are gonna need some kinda parametric EQ to match the Q and res freq of the wah circuit .. dunno if you have that or not .. you might be able to get a reasonable facsimile with an auto wah set slow or some kind of pick-sensitive envelope filter if ou have it
good luck
t4d
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
You need to suppress the high and low freqs and get a sound that's very middly and nasal sounding.
You need to suppress the high and low freqs and get a sound that's very middly and nasal sounding.
cake55
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Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
a dual paramtric EQ would maybe get that half wah sound
but not 100% sure TC para EQ comes to mind
Les paul ...wah wah half open as said in post
this also works for 'money for nothing'
i think its more on how you approach his style
with the right amp /effects
even rolling of the tone on the les paul
with the right combination might work
Very good info on his set up here
http://www.knopfler.net/interview27.html
* Gibson Les Paul, Sunburst (c.1984 serial number 90006 re-issue) Modified so that the central position on the pick-up selector connects them 'out of phase'. Used on Brothers In Arms (with Marshall JTM45 head and Marshall 4 x 12 with EV speakers), Money For Nothing and You And Your Friend (through Soldano and Marshall 4 x 12).
Cake55
a dual paramtric EQ would maybe get that half wah sound
but not 100% sure TC para EQ comes to mind
Les paul ...wah wah half open as said in post
this also works for 'money for nothing'
i think its more on how you approach his style
with the right amp /effects
even rolling of the tone on the les paul
with the right combination might work
Very good info on his set up here
http://www.knopfler.net/interview27.html
* Gibson Les Paul, Sunburst (c.1984 serial number 90006 re-issue) Modified so that the central position on the pick-up selector connects them 'out of phase'. Used on Brothers In Arms (with Marshall JTM45 head and Marshall 4 x 12 with EV speakers), Money For Nothing and You And Your Friend (through Soldano and Marshall 4 x 12).
Cake55
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: "Brothers in arms" Sound
Yeah, you could aim for Clapton's woman tone, and play with your fingers and it would be pretty close.
Yeah, you could aim for Clapton's woman tone, and play with your fingers and it would be pretty close.
