carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Dude, just take the horn right off. Utility > Aesthetics.

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Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

thanx man, is this tru-oil some kind of primer? can i apply paint after wards?
No, as the name implies it's an oil-based protection for wood, it's transparent (actually darkens the wood just a bit) and it's meant to be only the most basic (but still adequate) of protections. It's also what lets the wood breathe the most.

If you wanna go all-out the you should do what you said, primer then a solid-color paint, although it might be hard to match the new paint with the old one.

Maybe Kramersteen's idea of a veneer top might be best :)
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

A stupid idea : what if i just paint it with black permanent marker? That's what i did with the area around the bridge.
I am telling this, because i have no place for spraying, etc... and chemicals are strictly forbidden in the house, is there a fast and dirty, yet realiable way out of this?
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

A stupid idea : what if i just paint it with black permanent marker? That's what i did with the area around the bridge.
I am telling this, because i have no place for spraying, etc... and chemicals are strictly forbidden in the house, is there a fast and dirty, yet realiable way out of this?

model paints. sharpie won't hold their color as long.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Don't thank him! Thats a bad idea and you know it haha.

Have you got any mates who spray cars?

unfortunately not.... if i wasn't so tight on time/space, surely i'd follow your advice.... This morning i advanced a little bit to the eastern front (!!!) until i got a notice from the wife, and instantly i almost ruined the whole top. So, this way the "married father with limited space/time"'s way.
Indeed guitar is my passion (the only one left), anyways here are the new pics :

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Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I hated the permanent marker, so i sanded most of it with 60 and 100 grit sandpaper and now it has a nice smooth feeling:
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Is ok to apply sealer/primer? What kind of sealer and primer should i go for? acrylic/polyurethane/etc... i am complete retard when it comes to finishing...

Kramersteen bro, its your show now!! just keep it simple, remember i am a retard in chemicals!
also i'd like full set of substances to get, sealer,primer, color paint, clear coat...

also, i cant spray.... only by the brush.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I picked up some hammer-finish paint last night as walmart and krylon had paint-on enamels and poly paints sitting right next to the cans. I assume Greece has similar ability to get hobby paints.

Testors model paints man. Be sure to also buy a primer. put on a couple coats of primer to get a nice even surface. wipe it down to clean dust after drying then apply a layer of black model paint. wait for it to dry, sand with high grit sandpaper to buff the shine off, put on another layer. do it again. then again. then again. Then sand with wet very high grit sandpaper and do it again. Then sand, then buff with a rag and buffing compound. Just like painting a car old-school, none of this single-spray undercoat and clearcoat business. layer after layer of enamel, baby.

sealers and primers: oil on acrylic is all right. acrylic on acrylic is all right. oil on oil is all right. acrylic on oil will fail.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I picked up some hammer-finish paint last night as walmart and krylon had paint-on enamels and poly paints sitting right next to the cans. I assume Greece has similar ability to get hobby paints.

Testors model paints man. Be sure to also buy a primer. put on a couple coats of primer to get a nice even surface. wipe it down to clean dust after drying then apply a layer of black model paint. wait for it to dry, sand with high grit sandpaper to buff the shine off, put on another layer. do it again. then again. then again. Then sand with wet very high grit sandpaper and do it again. Then sand, then buff with a rag and buffing compound. Just like painting a car old-school, none of this single-spray undercoat and clearcoat business. layer after layer of enamel, baby.

sealers and primers: oil on acrylic is all right. acrylic on acrylic is all right. oil on oil is all right. acrylic on oil will fail.

thanx tons (and tones!!!) Jon, i will re-read everything you wrote. I guess i would visit not a hardware shop but rather a shop that sells "art" things for painters, designers, etc??

As an update, i played the guitar a lot today, i can say that when i wail away, i can't spot the fact that this guitar wasn't meant for 24th fret access!! it feels so natural and good... 100% shred-ready.

THANX PEOPLE, and thanx kramersteen/keeperos/Jon for pushing me to this!
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I still think shes worthy of a full make over in the future. :9: Glad you are happy with it.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

@Kramer, man i would hesitate take any more wood out and route control cavity in the lower body section. This guitar had enough if you take into account this : http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/6878/gotoh-lock-installation-carvin-dc135

Hey Jon, any pointers to specific Testors products? I am completely lost in this. If you could give me specific info that would be great : I'd need primer, paint, and then do the process as you suggested. Then i'd buy on line, as it is hardly unlikely to find the same stuff here in Greece (and time is limited).
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Here is an article on how to paint wood furniture with enamel paint.
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/enamel-paint-on-wood.html

I think the majority of the rules will apply. I'm assuming you have DIY stores in Greece, so instead of targeting Testor's paint specifically, just look for an enamel and primer for use on furniture.

I have to admit, this would all be so much easier if you could get spray paint. All you need is a single can of gloss spray paint in black, a trash can lid/cardboard piece/something to spray on, some tape to tape off all the parts you don't want to spray, and some air. I used to paint minis for wargaming and I would primer them with an auto primer and spray it in the patio of an apartment.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I also have to admit, your worry has me worried. Technically speaking, it's pretty easy to cover up a denuded chunk with some black paint but your trepidation on the subject makes me worry that you'll freak out and half-a$$ it.

Just don't half-a$$ it!
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I also have to admit, your worry has me worried. Technically speaking, it's pretty easy to cover up a denuded chunk with some black paint but your trepidation on the subject makes me worry that you'll freak out and half-a$$ it.

Just don't half-a$$ it!

ha ha!! thanx for your help Jon!! if you click the link on the GN2 site (guitarnuts2) you'll see that i am the kind of person that shoots (the guitar) first and ask (forums) questions later :)
I visited some big hardware store this morning, but the quantities are just huge (1kgr primer, 1 kgr base color coat). I just need tiny amounts. My wife has a friend that has all the needed stuff, so i'll drop by her tomorrow and see if i can get some materials for free.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

You could Ask Gus or Bob? They might be in your neighborhood. :9:
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Vallejo colors are succulent. OOoooooOOooOoh I like Vallejos. Way better than Games Workshop or miles better than Ceramcoat. They're a little thin so they'll probably absorb into the wood a bit, so you will probably want to include a clearcoat of some sort too.

BTW I used Vallejo black and metal specifically on small plastic or metal miniatures, so I dunno how they're going to work on a large chunk of wood. They're a very rich dye in them though.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Aha. Should i be concerned with the total thickness of the coats? Should I sand more to gain a little more space, that will be lost by the coatings?
 
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