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You are generally correct. RTL is higher than E standard, at least For Whom the Bell Tolls, which is about a quarter step sharp. The track was sped up, thereby raising the pitch, to match the bells.

The Thing That Should Not Be is in drop D.

And Sad But True


....I didn't know that Metallica tuned higher than E in RTL?!?!
 
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More people should tune the strings to intervals of fifths rather than fourths. That way, you could have lower lows and higher highs at the same time, which might satisfy all those people who complain about upper fret access.
 
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Chords might be more difficult on this six string cello that you're proposing . . . But I like the concept!
 
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Jake E Lee had some nifty tuning going on in 'Shot in the dark'
where he tuned up the E&A strings to F# & B :)
 
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I always tuned my bass up to F when I played in jazz band in high school. Same thing when I played guitar in the pit band for a high school musical. That's just for the sake of laziness, playing in horn keys most of the time. And up until last year, I had a short neck bass that was strung with the bottom four strings from a 5-string set (B, E, A, D). However, I tuned the bass to D standard. Technically, that's tuning up a step and a half from those string gauges' intended notes.

I've haven't spent much time playing an instrument downtuned, though, aside from the very occasional double drop D, and the one acoustic that I keep in open D major. And there was some weird open B5 tuning that I used for one song one time.
 
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I've recently discovered the magic of 432 Hz tuning. I have 19 guitars and so far I have 5 of them tuned to 432 Hz which is 1/3 of a semitone flatter than a standard E tuned at 440 Hz. I find this tuning more pleasant sounding. The 432 Hz is a tuning for whom the bell tolls.:firedevil

 
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One time when I was just starting out I accidentally tuned the low E string up to A. I was trying to tune to Drop D.

That was interesting.
 
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One time when I was just starting out I accidentally tuned the low E string up to A. I was trying to tune to Drop D.

That was interesting.

That reminds me of the old bassist from a friend's band. They have some songs in drop D, and retune for them then tune back. Well, somehow at one show the bassist ended up with 3 D strings at one point, the guitarists were confused as to why everything sounded out of tune...then they realized the culprit.
 
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Quite a few songs I wrote use standard tuning with a capo on the first or second frets. I also dig open E, which is EBEG#BE, so that's technically another good application for "tuning up".
 
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Sometimes I use an open C tuning where the B string is tuned up to C, but that's about it. I just don't think that sharper pitches in tuning ever sound pleasant.
 
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Chords might be more difficult on this six string cello that you're proposing . . . But I like the concept!

http://www.schecterguitars.com/Vault/22/A5-X-2000-2001.aspx

I had the CB-2000 (actually, had two of them over the years.) 5 strings, 27 frets, tuned in 5ths. They called it the CelloBlaster.

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I don't understand the anti capo thing. That just sounds ignorant. Use a capo - that's what they're for.

The only tuning I can think of that goes up (other than Nashville) is open E. You have to take the 5th, 4th, and 3rd strings up.
 
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I've tuned to open E or G (I think) for She Talks To Angels, In My Time Of Dying, and Travelin RIverside Blues (Zep), but aside from the one guitar I have that tunes itself up a whole step evenly, I try to avoid going higher. Makes bends seem like more work than they should.

And re: Bell Tolls being tuned higher than the rest of the album: THANK YOU! Everyone calls me kuckoo for suggesting that ONE song is tuned higher. Finally, proof I'm not as tone deaf as I thought :lol:
Either that or it's mass hysteria :lol:
I can play along with that whole album until I get to that one track, and I gotta switch to a guitar I can tune up easily, or leave one Floyded axe set a half-step sharp.


I did read an interview several years ago in a Metallica Special edition of GFTPM (white cover with green text, when AJFA came out) where Hetfield said they typically tuned higher than 440 - I think he called it Concert Tuning, but as I understand it, 440 is Concert Tuning.

Of course he also said they "still" record their chords one note at a time.


And Drop D is not D Standard. "Drop" anything is where you only lower the lowest string, e.g. EADGBE becomes DADGBE. Thing That Should Not Be is Drop D, but Sad But True is full-step down (along with a butt-ton of Sabbath songs, and quite a few are in C#).
 
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I just started messing around with EADGCF . . . all 4ths tuning. It's kinda cool. Simplifies the fretboard a lot.
 
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