Guitar Toad
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play split humbuckers? In-phase out of phase? Or does he always use the full HB?
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Does EVH....
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ErikH
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As far as I know he's always played full HB's, no splitting or phasing. His reasoning for having just a bridge pickup in the beginning was because he couldn't find a perfect enough match for the bridge. That's what I read in an old Guitar mag interview anyway.
As far as I know he's always played full HB's, no splitting or phasing. His reasoning for having just a bridge pickup in the beginning was because he couldn't find a perfect enough match for the bridge. That's what I read in an old Guitar mag interview anyway.
Guitar Toad
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Thanks Erik-
I was guessing that the answer was no.
He seems to be more like Angus in the sense of "Hey, I don't need much, give a guitar (in EVH's case a single bridge HOT PAF) plug me into a stack of Marshalls, crank 'em and up let's rock."
He's not anymore complicated than that is he?
Thanks Erik-
I was guessing that the answer was no.
He seems to be more like Angus in the sense of "Hey, I don't need much, give a guitar (in EVH's case a single bridge HOT PAF) plug me into a stack of Marshalls, crank 'em and up let's rock."
He's not anymore complicated than that is he?
ErikH
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Not really, no. A few of his Wolfgangs have a sustainer in them. He even went as far as making the ones he plays dual volumes rather than volume/tone. He doesn't feel a need for tone controls for his setup. The most complicated guitar I saw him play was a Tiesco Del Ray in the Finish What Ya Started video. I don't think he even played that one live. Live, the most complex one was a Wolfgang that had a piezo pickup in it along with the normal electronics. He got some cool tones out of that one. Other than that, the kiss theory appears to be his motto, other than having more effects than Angus who doesn't use any at all..lol.
Not really, no. A few of his Wolfgangs have a sustainer in them. He even went as far as making the ones he plays dual volumes rather than volume/tone. He doesn't feel a need for tone controls for his setup. The most complicated guitar I saw him play was a Tiesco Del Ray in the Finish What Ya Started video. I don't think he even played that one live. Live, the most complex one was a Wolfgang that had a piezo pickup in it along with the normal electronics. He got some cool tones out of that one. Other than that, the kiss theory appears to be his motto, other than having more effects than Angus who doesn't use any at all..lol.
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Lewguitar
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The bridge pickup in a guitar using a single bridge pickup often sounds better than the same bridge pickup in a guitar using a neck and bridge pickup. That's why alot of guys like Esquires better than Teles...the magnets in the neck pickup of a Strat or Tele chokes the strings and affects the sustain and intonation slightly. As far as EVH goes, Erik is right...no coil splitting.
The bridge pickup in a guitar using a single bridge pickup often sounds better than the same bridge pickup in a guitar using a neck and bridge pickup. That's why alot of guys like Esquires better than Teles...the magnets in the neck pickup of a Strat or Tele chokes the strings and affects the sustain and intonation slightly. As far as EVH goes, Erik is right...no coil splitting.
Guitar Toad
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That's a great point Lew. Thanks. I hadn't considered that effect.
The one bridge pickup must be the reason for the funky EVH taped-up stripe design. One PU in the bridge looks so plain. But the right paint job and you hardly even notice that there's only one PU.
Lewguitar said:
That's a great point Lew. Thanks. I hadn't considered that effect.
The one bridge pickup must be the reason for the funky EVH taped-up stripe design. One PU in the bridge looks so plain. But the right paint job and you hardly even notice that there's only one PU.
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Lewguitar
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I have three Strats with just a single bridge humbucker...they are a blast to play! One has a Custom Custom Trembucker and one has a 59 Trembucker.
The third one came with a white bridge humbucker with non adjustable slug polepieces in both coils. It's an aftermarket pickup, it's white and it has a brass baseplate with the number "7" printed on it. Looks like a Dimarzio but I don't know for sure...sounds good though!
Anyways, I do miss having a neck pickup on these guitars but they sustain beautifully and have a livlier tone than my other Strat with two humbuckers: PGn and 59TB.
The one with the single 59TB sounds a little "better" and livlier than the one with the PGn and 59TB.
Guitar Toad said:
I have three Strats with just a single bridge humbucker...they are a blast to play! One has a Custom Custom Trembucker and one has a 59 Trembucker.
The third one came with a white bridge humbucker with non adjustable slug polepieces in both coils. It's an aftermarket pickup, it's white and it has a brass baseplate with the number "7" printed on it. Looks like a Dimarzio but I don't know for sure...sounds good though!
Anyways, I do miss having a neck pickup on these guitars but they sustain beautifully and have a livlier tone than my other Strat with two humbuckers: PGn and 59TB.
The one with the single 59TB sounds a little "better" and livlier than the one with the PGn and 59TB.
Guitar Toad
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Since we're on the topic, my understanding was that the HB's have less of the string pull effect than SC's. I must be wrong on this?
Since we're on the topic, my understanding was that the HB's have less of the string pull effect than SC's. I must be wrong on this?
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Lewguitar
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HB's definately have alot less string pull than single coils. In a most single coils the polepieces are the magnets themselves. In a HB the magnet is under the pickup and the screws and slug polepieces are not magnets but are somewhat magnetized by the magnet...but it's a weaker magnetic field than if the polepiece itself is the magnet as in most Strat and Tele pickups. Lew
Guitar Toad said:
HB's definately have alot less string pull than single coils. In a most single coils the polepieces are the magnets themselves. In a HB the magnet is under the pickup and the screws and slug polepieces are not magnets but are somewhat magnetized by the magnet...but it's a weaker magnetic field than if the polepiece itself is the magnet as in most Strat and Tele pickups. Lew
Zhangliqun
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Which is the reason you can raise humbuckers a lot closer to the strings than traditional Fender-style single coils.
Lewguitar said:
Which is the reason you can raise humbuckers a lot closer to the strings than traditional Fender-style single coils.
remingtonbo2001
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Hmmm....I find it interesting that EVH didn't use a neck pickup (early on). I don't either. I have yet to find one that compliments my style. I'm not sure if I would have any use for one either. I had a 59 neck in for 2 days, but it was awfully BOOMY. I've considered an AP2, but have yet to try one. It would match up with a 59/CC Hyb. What would be the smoothest possible pickup, with current pickup, basswood body? Seymour, or Custom Dealer? Opinions?
Hmmm....I find it interesting that EVH didn't use a neck pickup (early on). I don't either. I have yet to find one that compliments my style. I'm not sure if I would have any use for one either. I had a 59 neck in for 2 days, but it was awfully BOOMY. I've considered an AP2, but have yet to try one. It would match up with a 59/CC Hyb. What would be the smoothest possible pickup, with current pickup, basswood body? Seymour, or Custom Dealer? Opinions?
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Lewguitar
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I like alnico 2 and alnico 4 neck humbuckers. But for smooth: alnico 2
A2 has less mud or boom to the bass because it has less bass to begin with!
Seth Lover, A2Pro, Pearly Gates, Antiquity...all good choices for a neck pickup with less boom than the a5 59n.
remingtonbo2001 said:
I like alnico 2 and alnico 4 neck humbuckers. But for smooth: alnico 2
A2 has less mud or boom to the bass because it has less bass to begin with!
Seth Lover, A2Pro, Pearly Gates, Antiquity...all good choices for a neck pickup with less boom than the a5 59n.
remingtonbo2001
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Oh, with regard to EVH. By removing the NECK pickup from the equation, the tone, IMHO, becomes ROUNDER, more open, slightly increasing sustain. Why? The MAGNETIC PULL generated by the neck pickup is no longer a variable, thus allowing the strings to vibrate more freely. I also wonder, what effect, if any, the open space vacant by the neck pickup has any effect on the tone? I had a cover placed on there, but felt more satisfied with the tone when the cover was off. Is it possible that this would effect the absorption of the sound waves, string vibration, ect. With the vacant neck position, the tone appears to generate an acoustic texture. Let me state, THESE EFFECTS ARE MINISCUL, if any effect is generated at all. I would imagine with less magnetic pull, a noticable change would be experienced, but with regard to the other THEORIES, I cannot claim their validity, only experiment, and conclude to a result. It might be worth trying. REMEMBER, guitarist such as EVH, as well as others, EXPERIMENTED. I'm sure there were failures, which would be an overstatement, but one must fail, to reach success. In other words, SUCCESS doesn't come easy, unless, of course, you were apart of the SOCIALLY FASHIONABLE POP PUNK MOVEMENT, :laugh2: . I'm not knockin', Blink 182 (Old School, 95-01) would be my choice of entertainment. I think I could have summed this post up in one word, EXPERIMENT.
Oh, with regard to EVH. By removing the NECK pickup from the equation, the tone, IMHO, becomes ROUNDER, more open, slightly increasing sustain. Why? The MAGNETIC PULL generated by the neck pickup is no longer a variable, thus allowing the strings to vibrate more freely. I also wonder, what effect, if any, the open space vacant by the neck pickup has any effect on the tone? I had a cover placed on there, but felt more satisfied with the tone when the cover was off. Is it possible that this would effect the absorption of the sound waves, string vibration, ect. With the vacant neck position, the tone appears to generate an acoustic texture. Let me state, THESE EFFECTS ARE MINISCUL, if any effect is generated at all. I would imagine with less magnetic pull, a noticable change would be experienced, but with regard to the other THEORIES, I cannot claim their validity, only experiment, and conclude to a result. It might be worth trying. REMEMBER, guitarist such as EVH, as well as others, EXPERIMENTED. I'm sure there were failures, which would be an overstatement, but one must fail, to reach success. In other words, SUCCESS doesn't come easy, unless, of course, you were apart of the SOCIALLY FASHIONABLE POP PUNK MOVEMENT, :laugh2: . I'm not knockin', Blink 182 (Old School, 95-01) would be my choice of entertainment. I think I could have summed this post up in one word, EXPERIMENT.
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remingtonbo2001
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This is why I hesistate to use a NECK pickup.
This is why I hesistate to use a NECK pickup.
remingtonbo2001
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Thanks LEW. Which would you consider to be the smoothest, but still retaining clarity, of those mentioned?
Thanks LEW. Which would you consider to be the smoothest, but still retaining clarity, of those mentioned?
remingtonbo2001
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Sorry Lew, I didn't see the earlier posting.
Sorry Lew, I didn't see the earlier posting.
twoheadedboy
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I ended up removing the magnets from the neck and middle p-90s on my Reverend Slingshot Custom because it sounds so much better without the extra string pull from those pickups. That's one of the reasons I bought a les paul junior too. 1 pickup, no bull****.
I ended up removing the magnets from the neck and middle p-90s on my Reverend Slingshot Custom because it sounds so much better without the extra string pull from those pickups. That's one of the reasons I bought a les paul junior too. 1 pickup, no bull****.
John Wymore
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This thread reminds me of the first Strat I built. I was really proud of that guitar but when I plugged it in the first time I was totally bummed out to find it sounded totally dead. I took the guitar to a tech friend because I couldn't figure out what was wrong. He spotted the problem in 2 seconds. Not knowing any better I had set the neck pickup up pretty close to the strings and the magnet pull was literally killing all the sustain. We dropped the neck pickup down about 3/16 of an inch and the guitar just came alive. Live and learn :smack:
This thread reminds me of the first Strat I built. I was really proud of that guitar but when I plugged it in the first time I was totally bummed out to find it sounded totally dead. I took the guitar to a tech friend because I couldn't figure out what was wrong. He spotted the problem in 2 seconds. Not knowing any better I had set the neck pickup up pretty close to the strings and the magnet pull was literally killing all the sustain. We dropped the neck pickup down about 3/16 of an inch and the guitar just came alive. Live and learn :smack:
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