ES-335 love..anyone?
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The Owl
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I LOVE 335's and their clones too!! The tone is just like nothing else. The last axe of this type I had was an Ibanez a few years ago.
The ONLY thing I don't like about them is they're like holding a wall onstage. Outside of that, the tone is to die for.
I LOVE 335's and their clones too!! The tone is just like nothing else. The last axe of this type I had was an Ibanez a few years ago.
The ONLY thing I don't like about them is they're like holding a wall onstage. Outside of that, the tone is to die for.
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I love them and but I'm always thinking of weird stuff that ought to be done to them.
These are the most recent. Full black binding and string through (can't do that in kisekae with LPs - the closest to the ES, tough I like them better with only one cutaway).
Filtertron, p90 and lipstick tube
Are you ready for something really ugly? In case you aren't shocked enough?
Filtertron, p90 and lipstick tube but with 24 frets and a slanted neck pup
I love them and but I'm always thinking of weird stuff that ought to be done to them.
These are the most recent. Full black binding and string through (can't do that in kisekae with LPs - the closest to the ES, tough I like them better with only one cutaway).
Filtertron, p90 and lipstick tube
Are you ready for something really ugly? In case you aren't shocked enough?
Filtertron, p90 and lipstick tube but with 24 frets and a slanted neck pup
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I take it you prefer the regular 2 fret design?
I take it you prefer the regular 2 fret design?
blueman335
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How long have you been playing one? At first they seem larger than they should be, but after a while you get to love feeling that big piece of wood. I used to think that a 335 with 14" lower bout would be be better, but now I think that the standard 16" is perfect. The body thickness is nice too. To me, a deep hollowbody (175) seems much larger & less comfortable because of the 3 1/2" depth.
How long have you been playing one? At first they seem larger than they should be, but after a while you get to love feeling that big piece of wood. I used to think that a 335 with 14" lower bout would be be better, but now I think that the standard 16" is perfect. The body thickness is nice too. To me, a deep hollowbody (175) seems much larger & less comfortable because of the 3 1/2" depth.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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How about "innovative" 335's instead of weird? Like:
- Neck thru body
- String thru body (like you suggested)
- HSH with a 5-way switch
- Triple P-90's
- Bridge HB with 2 P-90's
- Bridge HB with a mini-HB
- Partial center block for more acoustical resonance
- Plastic panel in back for easier access to pots
- Factory wired for spin-a-splits
- Factory wired for linking PU's in parallel/series
Lots of technology used on other guitars that can be applied to 335's. For most, the models differ in the woods & finishes, but there is so much more that can be done. 335's were the most tecnologically advanced guitars when they were introduced in 1958 (HB's, stereo, vari-tone, full neck access, center block, thinline body). Time to update some models.
How about "innovative" 335's instead of weird? Like:
- Neck thru body
- String thru body (like you suggested)
- HSH with a 5-way switch
- Triple P-90's
- Bridge HB with 2 P-90's
- Bridge HB with a mini-HB
- Partial center block for more acoustical resonance
- Plastic panel in back for easier access to pots
- Factory wired for spin-a-splits
- Factory wired for linking PU's in parallel/series
Lots of technology used on other guitars that can be applied to 335's. For most, the models differ in the woods & finishes, but there is so much more that can be done. 335's were the most tecnologically advanced guitars when they were introduced in 1958 (HB's, stereo, vari-tone, full neck access, center block, thinline body). Time to update some models.
The Owl
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The last time I played a hollowbody was about 5 years ago. I'm actually cool with the thinckness but it's the width and everything that drove me nuts onstage, part of the reason I switched to an SG. Playing a hollow sitting down is easy and natural for me somehow, I just feel wakward with one on stage standing up. Have to admit, I am kind of hankering for that tone for some things nowadays.
The last time I played a hollowbody was about 5 years ago. I'm actually cool with the thinckness but it's the width and everything that drove me nuts onstage, part of the reason I switched to an SG. Playing a hollow sitting down is easy and natural for me somehow, I just feel wakward with one on stage standing up. Have to admit, I am kind of hankering for that tone for some things nowadays.
Hot _Grits
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The only thing I'd like to see is a model with a non-bigsby wang bar...
The only thing I'd like to see is a model with a non-bigsby wang bar...
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I don't understand why some of those things don't come stock, especially the back cover one. I'd really dig if they'd do an electronics chamber, foil it and cut away the back so the wood would act as a cover...
In regards to innovative... I'm mostly weird so I'd stick with what works for me :laugh2:
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Some good sugestions there. Forgot to mention the partial block but yeah, that would be cool.
I don't understand why some of those things don't come stock, especially the back cover one. I'd really dig if they'd do an electronics chamber, foil it and cut away the back so the wood would act as a cover...
In regards to innovative... I'm mostly weird so I'd stick with what works for me :laugh2:
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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I've done it about 50 times on semi & hollowbodies, so to me that's the "norm" & solid bodies are almost too easy. But a back cover plate would be nice, and should have almost no impact on the tone. Lucille's have a rear panel, but there is so much stuff jammed in there with the huge vari-tone, it's worse than squeezing things thru an F hole. Also, there is a lot of variety in where the 4 pot holes are drilled in relation to the F hole.
For me, the only pot I have to pull through the guitar with a wire (stiff, plastic-coated) is the neck tone pot. The other three I can do with a pair of 6" long forecepts with a curved end. I can do all four in a few minutes. I've done the Jimmy Page system to a bunch of 335's, and even the push-pulls go in fairly easy. But I'd still prefer a rear panel cover.
I've done it about 50 times on semi & hollowbodies, so to me that's the "norm" & solid bodies are almost too easy. But a back cover plate would be nice, and should have almost no impact on the tone. Lucille's have a rear panel, but there is so much stuff jammed in there with the huge vari-tone, it's worse than squeezing things thru an F hole. Also, there is a lot of variety in where the 4 pot holes are drilled in relation to the F hole.
For me, the only pot I have to pull through the guitar with a wire (stiff, plastic-coated) is the neck tone pot. The other three I can do with a pair of 6" long forecepts with a curved end. I can do all four in a few minutes. I've done the Jimmy Page system to a bunch of 335's, and even the push-pulls go in fairly easy. But I'd still prefer a rear panel cover.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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I constantly rotate between 335's, LP',s SG's, & hollowbodies, which keeps me pretty flexible. Each one has their own feel and tone, which influences my playing & keeps it more innovative. I love the variety. As much as I like the sleek SG body & long neck, I couldn't give up the others & play it all the time.
I constantly rotate between 335's, LP',s SG's, & hollowbodies, which keeps me pretty flexible. Each one has their own feel and tone, which influences my playing & keeps it more innovative. I love the variety. As much as I like the sleek SG body & long neck, I couldn't give up the others & play it all the time.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
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I don't find the size of a Gibson hollowbody to be unwieldy on stage at all. I'll admit something smaller like an LP is easier to fling around but from a comfort and playability standpoint I find surprisingly little difference.
I don't find the size of a Gibson hollowbody to be unwieldy on stage at all. I'll admit something smaller like an LP is easier to fling around but from a comfort and playability standpoint I find surprisingly little difference.
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
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I find my Dot to be really comfortable just sitting around the apartment and fiddling.
I'm not looking forward to jack / pots work, now that you mention how nasty it is. Good thing pickups and electronics are low on my list of things to do since I live in an apartment and never use an amp
(wait, that's not a good thing!) :doh:
Strapping it is kind of awkward though. My mother tried it on just for fun and dropped it right on the side of the headstock because of the weird strap button positioning... I wish it were located elsewhere.
I find my Dot to be really comfortable just sitting around the apartment and fiddling.
I'm not looking forward to jack / pots work, now that you mention how nasty it is. Good thing pickups and electronics are low on my list of things to do since I live in an apartment and never use an amp
(wait, that's not a good thing!) :doh:
Strapping it is kind of awkward though. My mother tried it on just for fun and dropped it right on the side of the headstock because of the weird strap button positioning... I wish it were located elsewhere.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
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I consider myself lucky that I'm totally satisfied with the stock electronics in my 137. I expected to hate the pickups but I actually really like them, and the pots and switch all feel good, so it stays as-is for the foreseeable future.
I consider myself lucky that I'm totally satisfied with the stock electronics in my 137. I expected to hate the pickups but I actually really like them, and the pots and switch all feel good, so it stays as-is for the foreseeable future.
Jimbojsr
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Preach it, brutha. And +1 to that horrific semi design I saw above - a semi-hollow LP is wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!!
(IMHO, of course )
Preach it, brutha. And +1 to that horrific semi design I saw above - a semi-hollow LP is wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!!
(IMHO, of course
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Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
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Added 335 bonus -they are great for hiding the pot belly. That way you can work the ladies into a lather onstage, and then appear to be EVEN SEXIER after the gig.
Try that with a flying V.
Added 335 bonus -they are great for hiding the pot belly. That way you can work the ladies into a lather onstage, and then appear to be EVEN SEXIER after the gig.
Try that with a flying V.
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Howdy,
I think Hot Grits has provided many of us with the best reason of all to bring an ES-335 to the gig! It's nice to have something to hide that gut, heh-heh.
I think about the only tone I haven't been able to dial in convincingly is "Amos Moses". But it wouldn't surprise me at all if Jerry Reed could chickin pick the daylights out of an ES-335!
My ES-335 with it's SD 59s seems to be at it's most comfortable overdriving my little '68 Vibro Champ while I bash along with the 'Stones. Of course, she'll handle clean rhythm duties just fine through my red knob Twin. What about your ES-335?
Eggman
Howdy,
I think Hot Grits has provided many of us with the best reason of all to bring an ES-335 to the gig! It's nice to have something to hide that gut, heh-heh.
I think about the only tone I haven't been able to dial in convincingly is "Amos Moses". But it wouldn't surprise me at all if Jerry Reed could chickin pick the daylights out of an ES-335!
My ES-335 with it's SD 59s seems to be at it's most comfortable overdriving my little '68 Vibro Champ while I bash along with the 'Stones. Of course, she'll handle clean rhythm duties just fine through my red knob Twin. What about your ES-335?
Eggman
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I luve you too...Preach it, brutha. And +1 to that horrific semi design I saw above - a semi-hollow LP is wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!!
(IMHO, of course
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