GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Oh, no! Marketing that doesn't spell out every proper technical detail! :eyecrazy:
"GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
I bought the GFS Mean 90 because it is BETTER than the Gibson equivilent.
I bought the GFS Mean 90 because it is BETTER than the Gibson equivilent.
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Yeah, that wasn't a "technical description", but for all practical purposes they are correct. The resistence in a properly set up tone circuit goes to ground. The greater resistence the signal experiences going to ground, the greater amount of signal is transmitted from the pup to the output jack. A lower resistence pot, say 250k ohms instead of 1 meg ohms, has lower resistence to ground and so more of the signal (high frequencies mainly) is allowed to go to ground and you have less treble going to the jack/amp/speakers.
A tone circuit essentially SUCKS tone from the signal. A no-load pot bypasses the tone circuit sending all of the signal to the jack. A super high resistence pot (1 meg or greater) functions similar to a no-load pot in that the resistence to ground is so great that it effectively forces "all" of the signal to the jack.
Sounds like you need to come down from that high horse and join the human race.
Yeah, that wasn't a "technical description", but for all practical purposes they are correct. The resistence in a properly set up tone circuit goes to ground. The greater resistence the signal experiences going to ground, the greater amount of signal is transmitted from the pup to the output jack. A lower resistence pot, say 250k ohms instead of 1 meg ohms, has lower resistence to ground and so more of the signal (high frequencies mainly) is allowed to go to ground and you have less treble going to the jack/amp/speakers.
A tone circuit essentially SUCKS tone from the signal. A no-load pot bypasses the tone circuit sending all of the signal to the jack. A super high resistence pot (1 meg or greater) functions similar to a no-load pot in that the resistence to ground is so great that it effectively forces "all" of the signal to the jack.
Sounds like you need to come down from that high horse and join the human race.
zenmindbeginner
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
I've got an Xaviere tele thinline that is a killer guitar with fantastic sounding pickups. I paid $150 for the whole thing shipped to my door in one of those roto molded cases.
The pickups are particularly good... I was really skeptical and avoided GFS pickups for years because I do not agree with his outsourced business model. But I was pleasantly surprised when the guitar sounded terrific with the regular ol' GFS Alnico tele pups.
I haven't played that guitar in weeks, I think I'll go and pick it a bit. : )
I've got an Xaviere tele thinline that is a killer guitar with fantastic sounding pickups. I paid $150 for the whole thing shipped to my door in one of those roto molded cases.
The pickups are particularly good... I was really skeptical and avoided GFS pickups for years because I do not agree with his outsourced business model. But I was pleasantly surprised when the guitar sounded terrific with the regular ol' GFS Alnico tele pups.
I haven't played that guitar in weeks, I think I'll go and pick it a bit. : )
randomguitarstuff56
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
dude my VEH is way better than whatever ur using. GFS will have a lot more buisness from me.
dude my VEH is way better than whatever ur using. GFS will have a lot more buisness from me.
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I'm really happy with the Mean 90 in the neck position of my tele. However, I couldn't buy from their site (I always get an error message when filling up my address in Brazil). So I bought from their store at ebay. Perfect handling, shipping, presentation and tone. =) Don't know about their other products...
I'm really happy with the Mean 90 in the neck position of my tele. However, I couldn't buy from their site (I always get an error message when filling up my address in Brazil). So I bought from their store at ebay. Perfect handling, shipping, presentation and tone. =) Don't know about their other products...
totergecko
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
this is from the product description in the link above:
"The 1 meg pot has very little resistance when dimed, so you get ALL the power of your pickups delivered to the output jack."
first of all, one meg is a lot of resistance. I have never seen a higher value pot for a guitar. saying it has little resistance when dimed is like saying a corvette has no horsepower when it's at the red line. also, the less resistance you have in your volume control, the less output you will get from your guitar, so very little resistance would = very low output. here is a nice article that explains it in simple terms:
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/voltonecon.php
it seems like a pretty serious mistake for a major company like that to have a product description with so many technical inaccuracies. very unprofessional. it stands to reason that if they don't understand basic electronics well enough to put together a product description that makes sense, the electronic parts they design and build will be of poor quality as well. also, I may be in the minority here, but I think if a company tries to sell you something, they should know what the product is they are trying to sell, and they should be able to deliver the same product.
you know, I really couldn't care less if anyone disagrees with me. I'm sharing my experiences with anyone who might be considering buying parts from guitar fetish. I have some pretty good reasons why I won't do business with them. if you are okay with the possibility of receiving the wrong part, and you like their products, go ahead and buy them. just make sure you test them and make sure they work properly before you put them in your guitar.
also, be aware that this crappy little business doesn't even have a phone line...so if you have a problem, you will have to e-mail with someone who will not have the technical knowledge to understand and assist you with your problems or questions. it could take weeks or months to resolve your issues. they may not even be willing to fix their mistake, as someone said earlier who they sold the dead pickups to.
this is from the product description in the link above:
"The 1 meg pot has very little resistance when dimed, so you get ALL the power of your pickups delivered to the output jack."
first of all, one meg is a lot of resistance. I have never seen a higher value pot for a guitar. saying it has little resistance when dimed is like saying a corvette has no horsepower when it's at the red line. also, the less resistance you have in your volume control, the less output you will get from your guitar, so very little resistance would = very low output. here is a nice article that explains it in simple terms:
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/voltonecon.php
it seems like a pretty serious mistake for a major company like that to have a product description with so many technical inaccuracies. very unprofessional. it stands to reason that if they don't understand basic electronics well enough to put together a product description that makes sense, the electronic parts they design and build will be of poor quality as well. also, I may be in the minority here, but I think if a company tries to sell you something, they should know what the product is they are trying to sell, and they should be able to deliver the same product.
you know, I really couldn't care less if anyone disagrees with me. I'm sharing my experiences with anyone who might be considering buying parts from guitar fetish. I have some pretty good reasons why I won't do business with them. if you are okay with the possibility of receiving the wrong part, and you like their products, go ahead and buy them. just make sure you test them and make sure they work properly before you put them in your guitar.
also, be aware that this crappy little business doesn't even have a phone line...so if you have a problem, you will have to e-mail with someone who will not have the technical knowledge to understand and assist you with your problems or questions. it could take weeks or months to resolve your issues. they may not even be willing to fix their mistake, as someone said earlier who they sold the dead pickups to.
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GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Is Totergecko really Larry Dimarzio?
Is Totergecko really Larry Dimarzio?
MetalManiac
Li'l Junior Member
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Stupid me! Why did I ever spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on premium body and neck woods, duncan pickups, premium hardware, and expensive Luthier set ups, ; when I coulda just got a "fantastic" Xavier for 150.00 right out of the box! :smack:
Stupid me! Why did I ever spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on premium body and neck woods, duncan pickups, premium hardware, and expensive Luthier set ups, ; when I coulda just got a "fantastic" Xavier for 150.00 right out of the box! :smack:
metalmachine
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dude..... You need to calm down and quit being such a prick. That's really saying something coming from me.
You also need to learn to set up your own guitar so you can shred your unbeilvably unique guitar chops that we may want to steal from you at a cheaper price!
Just be honest..... You dont get laid much do you?
dude..... You need to calm down and quit being such a prick. That's really saying something coming from me.
You also need to learn to set up your own guitar so you can shred your unbeilvably unique guitar chops that we may want to steal from you at a cheaper price!
Just be honest..... You dont get laid much do you?
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Dont know about their pups but that place was the only place that I could find proper fitting Epiphone pickup rings after years of buying ones that didnt work right. Finally got to make my own goldtop with black plastics. Now allparts sells them.
Dont know about their pups but that place was the only place that I could find proper fitting Epiphone pickup rings after years of buying ones that didnt work right. Finally got to make my own goldtop with black plastics. Now allparts sells them.
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Got a set of the Vintage Alnico Staggers and I think they're pretty damn great for the money.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Strat-Vintage-Alnico-Stagger-Pickup-Set_p_717.html
Got a set of the Vintage Alnico Staggers and I think they're pretty damn great for the money.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Strat-Vintage-Alnico-Stagger-Pickup-Set_p_717.html
marcello252
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marcello252
Well-known member
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
This is a very strange comment in the way you posted it.
He didn't say it's the best guitar in the world, so why such a anger?
This is a very strange comment in the way you posted it.
He didn't say it's the best guitar in the world, so why such a anger?
cokekolev
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Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
I really like GFS pickups. I have tried the Crunchy PAF (neck + bridge), Vintage '59 and lil killer set. The crunchy PAF in the bridge is just amazing for a Les Paul through a Marshall. I like it way better than the Super Distortion in my floyd strat or the original Fender humbucker. The lil killers are also great. The 15k version is very hot has a great distorted sound, the cleans are not so great. The 10k in the neck sounds very open and clear, with a PAF vibe, great for 'glassy' solos.
The one I like the least is the Vintage '59. While it's a good pickup, much much clearer and brighter than the dull stock Epiphone pickups, it's too tame and 'vintage'. It just sounds boring to me, but that's a matter of preference and taste.
I really like GFS pickups. I have tried the Crunchy PAF (neck + bridge), Vintage '59 and lil killer set. The crunchy PAF in the bridge is just amazing for a Les Paul through a Marshall. I like it way better than the Super Distortion in my floyd strat or the original Fender humbucker. The lil killers are also great. The 15k version is very hot has a great distorted sound, the cleans are not so great. The 10k in the neck sounds very open and clear, with a PAF vibe, great for 'glassy' solos.
The one I like the least is the Vintage '59. While it's a good pickup, much much clearer and brighter than the dull stock Epiphone pickups, it's too tame and 'vintage'. It just sounds boring to me, but that's a matter of preference and taste.
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marcello252
Well-known member
Re: "GFS" Guitar Fetish P'ups?
Impedance of the Crunchy is almost equal and the construction is really similar to the SuperD, almost a plain copy I'd say, even the plate material and the magnet dimension.
Externally the only different thing are the pole pieces, they could influence the sound.
Impedance of the Crunchy is almost equal and the construction is really similar to the SuperD, almost a plain copy I'd say, even the plate material and the magnet dimension.
Externally the only different thing are the pole pieces, they could influence the sound.
cokekolev
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Nope, sound way different. The super d sounds undefined and uninspired, whereas the crunchy pat has this middy "crunch" that really cuts through and also clear highs without being harsh. It might be the guitars though. The super d is in a floyd strat, the crunchy paf in a les paul.
Nope, sound way different. The super d sounds undefined and uninspired, whereas the crunchy pat has this middy "crunch" that really cuts through and also clear highs without being harsh. It might be the guitars though. The super d is in a floyd strat, the crunchy paf in a les paul.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
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I'd say it's closer to the Custom, with the Fat PAT being close to the Custom 5. I've had a Super D with an A5 and didn't care for it at all, and the Super D sounded way different. The Crunchy PAT with an A8 sounded similar enough to my C8 to sell the C8 and keep the "P8T".
I'd say it's closer to the Custom, with the Fat PAT being close to the Custom 5. I've had a Super D with an A5 and didn't care for it at all, and the Super D sounded way different. The Crunchy PAT with an A8 sounded similar enough to my C8 to sell the C8 and keep the "P8T".
