Henry J talks the future of Gibson Guitars

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11 Million on robotuners ..... need i say more.

Juss-ka-nim-witts needs to fade to black permanently.

Ive owned 11 Gibsons. None of them bought retail from Gibson.
 
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It's a pretty funny article for me... sounds as if he really believes everything is wonderful.

Funniest is he continues to call quality issues "fake news"... And that's pure emporeer with no clothes...

Interviewed a big independent last week that dropped Gibson in 2017 because quality got too low... Their in house luthier couldn't keep up repairs on new out of the box and Gibson wouldn't take them back. So they fixed them up and sold them off.

After c11, G is calling and the dealer asked what has changed from quality perspective and the rep indignantly argued that there never has been a quality issue.

Dealer has decided that they are wildly in love with PRS and have no plans to take G back unless they change.

Back to Henry, no modesty, no change of direction, no recognition of need to change... I'm so hoping creditors are waking up, but this article certainly sounds like business as usual and he strongly states that he's the CEO.

Thanks for sharing!

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I don't think he thinks anything is wrong, which is the worst kind of leader.
 
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Excerpt from article:

“So the filing for Gibson in Chapter 11 is not because the company was troubled, was somehow struggling financially - it was a case of a major part of the enterprise was struggling and we are in a process of winding that down."

Hmmm. Chapter 11 is not because the company was troubled, was somehow struggling financially, it was a case of a MAJOR PART OF THE ENTERPRISE WAS STRUGGLING.....

So according to Henry, the company is fine, don't worry; it's all good. It's just a major part of our enterprise is struggling. If a major part of your enterprise is struggling, Henry, your company is struggling. Don't they teach that part of business at Harvard?
 
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A Harvard education isn't what it used to be. And hasn't been for decades.

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11 Million on robotuners ..... need i say more.

Juss-ka-nim-witts needs to fade to black permanently.

Ive owned 11 Gibsons. None of them bought retail from Gibson.

Ive always felt like a young kid in the guitar community, but when Gibson came out with that sh!t, I just had to wonder --- is this an ageing guy's conservative rage, or are they just idiots???

But then I think I was still in my late 20s, probably?? So I just decided this must be idiocy, and havent even bothered trying a new Gibson since

What a turnoff

Robotuners...on high-priced oldskool guitars targeted at a wealthier, older, more conservative crowd.... lol what kinda research chems they smoking???
 
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Ive always felt like a young kid in the guitar community, but when Gibson came out with that sh!t, I just had to wonder --- is this an ageing guy's conservative rage, or are they just idiots???
Good for you!
Most people imagine that the things that they like and want are what is best... But with product management, that is rarely the case, and you did the right thing... You questioned your ability to make an unbiased decision and that's a quality of a great product manager...

Of course in retrospect, your gut was correct, but your initial thinking would have led to testing... simple concepts presented to personas that represent key markets would have totally changed the robo tuner debacle... Obviously, the market had little interest.

Hate to bore you guys with process, but we dig into testing in Saving Gibson 4 and sounds like many of you have the required skills!





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50% of solving a problem is knowing you [have] a problem and what it is.

1/2 measures avail you nothing.

If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

No matter where you go, there you are.
 
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50% of solving a problem is knowing you [have] a problem and what it is.

1/2 measures avail you nothing.

If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

No matter where you go, there you are.
Yep!

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Sidebar, I wonder if "fake news" is as divisive outside of the US as it is within and how much of a negative impact this positioning has with the international market?

Again, I'm a sample of 1, so my hypothesis has no value unless it is tested, so here it goes;)

If you are international, does Gibson's claim that quality issues are 'fake news' reduce your concerns about Gibson quality?

While we're at it, same question for US buyers?





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Well, like any news story, I try to get it from a few different sources. I wonder if the rest of Gibson's board are as hard-headed and accusatory. Or if they are scared of him. But hey, if the room is on fire, I am not going to listen to the guy standing in the middle with the gas and matches. That seems like the definition of 'fake news'.
 
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Well, like any news story, I try to get it from a few different sources. I wonder if the rest of Gibson's board are as hard-headed and accusatory. Or if they are scared of him. But hey, if the room is on fire, I am not going to listen to the guy standing in the middle with the gas and matches. That seems like the definition of 'fake news'.
Though, in extension of your metaphor, do you know how one puts out an oil well fire? With explosives.

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Good for you!
Most people imagine that the things that they like and want are what is best... But with product management, that is rarely the case, and you did the right thing... You questioned your ability to make an unbiased decision and that's a quality of a great product manager...

Of course in retrospect, your gut was correct, but your initial thinking would have led to testing... simple concepts presented to personas that represent key markets would have totally changed the robo tuner debacle... Obviously, the market had little interest.

Hate to bore you guys with process, but we dig into testing in Saving Gibson 4 and sounds like many of you have the required skills!





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I'm comfused, are you an employee?

In any case, Gibson clearly needs FOCUS GROUPS and DEPTH INTERVIEWS. And what they really really need is WELL-SELECTED focus groups, not some assortment of stoned and faded Wayne's World refugees going "far out, dude" and "ooh, tubular" whenever shown something expensive-looking and totally out of their price range, but then again reacting much the same to anything and everything as long as you give em their hundred bucks, a tshirt, and plenty of cookies in the conference room...

and DEFINITELY not a roomful of young and impressionable novice teens (whom they might WANT as customers, but ought to realize they ain't getting at their price points), for whom everything and anything looks overwhelmingly "ooh, shiney" over their christmas pack black Squier Affinity with gigbag and shoulder strap

They need to get real about their true target audience --- not just actual buyers or fans, but the people that walk into a guitar store with the will or ability to spend on their products, actually pick up their products and consider them, or at least 1) COULD be convinced to try and like a brand-new Gibson prodict, and 2) COULD save or borrow to purchase a brand-new Gibson product, if said product satisfied their demands. Note this also involves winning back savvy customers from the vintage displays and the premium corner of the used wall (which is likely where their biggest lost potential audience gravitates to).


And after selecting these focus groups correctly, they need to learn to ask the right questions, even when the answers are likely to hurt or go against management's recent plans and decisions. Very likely, a shy in-house team or submissive outsourced consultancy acted as the worst kind of enabler, intentionally cherrypicking respondents and responses that would affirm any misguided decisions with glowing reviews.


If you do work for Gibson and need someone to do focus groups done RIGHT, let me know, I have some experience in the field and could make that happen
 
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I'm comfused, are you an employee?

In any case, Gibson clearly needs FOCUS GROUPS and DEPTH INTERVIEWS. And what they really really need is WELL-SELECTED focus groups, not some assortment of stoned and faded Wayne's World refugees going "far out, dude" and "ooh, tubular" whenever shown something expensive-looking and totally out of their price range, but then again reacting much the same to anything and everything as long as you give em their hundred bucks, a tshirt, and plenty of cookies in the conference room...

and DEFINITELY not a roomful of young and impressionable novice teens (whom they might WANT as customers, but ought to realize they ain't getting at their price points), for whom everything and anything looks overwhelmingly "ooh, shiney" over their christmas pack black Squier Affinity with gigbag and shoulder strap

They need to get real about their true target audience --- not just actual buyers or fans, but the people that walk into a guitar store with the will or ability to spend on their products, actually pick up their products and consider them, or at least 1) COULD be convinced to try and like a brand-new Gibson prodict, and 2) COULD save or borrow to purchase a brand-new Gibson product, if said product satisfied their demands. Note this also involves winning back savvy customers from the vintage displays and the premium corner of the used wall (which is likely where their biggest lost potential audience gravitates to).


And after selecting these focus groups correctly, they need to learn to ask the right questions, even when the answers are likely to hurt or go against management's recent plans and decisions. Very likely, a shy in-house team or submissive outsourced consultancy acted as the worst kind of enabler, intentionally cherrypicking respondents and responses that would affirm any misguided decisions with glowing reviews.


If you do work for Gibson and need someone to do focus groups done RIGHT, let me know, I have some experience in the field and could make that happen
All great recommendations, but I'm afraid you're about 20 years too late. Gibson USA is not the only manufacturer that is experiencing declining sales. The issue is systemic. The democratization of music via internet, home recording, and the lack of support (non-promotion) of rock music has resulted in the death of the electric guitar. Industry survives through profit, of course. i.e. Capitalism. Capital removed = Industry collapse. Even if you have the capital, industry requires a market. Rock music is looked at as archaic "white people" music by promotional industry Progressives. As far as they are concerned, the sooner it is purged from the collective mindset, the better. Boutique builders can survive, but the era of large scale production is coming to a close. Even of there were a grassroots resurgence of rock music, there's no vehicle for promotion... other than YuteTube. If there were a promotional system, it wouldn't make any difference, as the yutes would simply rip-off the music via digital downloading. The DOJ refuses to give songwriters the same protections they give to book authors, so don't expect any help there.
 
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The "Tax Cuts" were suppose to Launch Corporations into the Stratosphere Economically so it would all trickle down to us Charlie Browns in anywhere USA. Hmmmm lots of Companies are going **** up. Could it be the Politicians were lying ?

Gibson got Millions in Tax relief and are still on Corporate Welfare.

Nothing to see here, move along ...
 
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