How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

The other question is:

If the gap is so bad, does filling it with a piece of <insert suitable material here>.

And if putting in a spacer does not help, then why doesn't ruin a shim the tone?
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

The other question is:

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then why doesn't ruin a shim the tone?

I see what you did there.

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Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

I should mention that I once routed a neck pocket that required a shim to no longer require it. The sound improved, but of course in that very minimal manner that you can only hear on careful recordings.

It's one of those things you'd never notice in isolation, but if you compare a guitar that has 10 little nags like that to a guitar that has only one I am sure you can easily hear it.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

Of course the obvious answer to all this is just dont play strats. :lol: I have none left myself.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

But a shim and the Fender tilt adjustment arent ideal. Im not sayng it matters a whole hell of a lot, but Ive heard that on vintage 50's 60's strats , the necks have to be pried apart form the body with a crowbar..literally!.

I agree that it's not ideal. If the neck is tight like a set neck, then it's gonna do more, but you have variables that keep it from being constant, like the resonance of each piece.

If you get a bum neck that is tightly fitted in the pocket, and compare it to a killer piece of timber that has a little gap on the sides, is it possible that the guitar with the killer neck could actually sound better in the amp?
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

I agree that it's not ideal.
If you get a bum neck that is tightly fitted in the pocket, and compare it to a killer piece of timber that has a little gap on the sides, is it possible that the guitar with the killer neck could actually sound better in the amp?

I dont think that a neck is the question here. We are assuming for test purposes an equally good neck. The body fit is the variable.
IMO I wouldnt dick with a neck that was out of spec...even though a tight neck pocket and a loose fitting neck might be for all purposes and equal equation, I''d personally be motivated ta dump a crummy neck , and more interested in preserving a great body with a slightly sloppy pocket.
 
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@drnewcenstein in my opinion, every les Paul after 1961 is a replica,clone,reissue or something like that. There are several reasons I won't mention here why I think my warmoths are more a les Paul than many gibsons you buy nowadays.

My mind just exploded. That somebody can be so elitist about Les Pauls and then INSIST that his Warmoths are more Les Paul than the real thing...:smack:
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

Surely the outcome of this thread is that it does NOT make a difference? Even people that say it does have their own examples of when it doesnt.

The one mod you can make to a guitar that will make a huge and noticeable difference is changing the pickups. Nothing else really matters anywhere near as much IMO.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

Surely the outcome of this thread is that it does NOT make a difference? Even people that say it does have their own examples of when it doesnt.

The one mod you can make to a guitar that will make a huge and noticeable difference is changing the pickups. Nothing else really matters anywhere near as much IMO.


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Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

I dont think that a neck is the question here. We are assuming for test purposes an equally good neck. The body fit is the variable.
IMO I wouldnt dick with a neck that was out of spec...even though a tight neck pocket and a loose fitting neck might be for all purposes and equal equation, I''d personally be motivated ta dump a crummy neck , and more interested in preserving a great body with a slightly sloppy pocket.

I guess if I was building a guitar, I'd take the parts that made the best tones in the amp, and if the winner was a bit loose on the sides of the picket, I'd just deal.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

What? You asked opinions and reading the thread its obvious what the concensus opinion is - it doesnt make a difference.

George Bush was elected with a consensus opinion. Thats about all I'm gonna say about that.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

And thanks for the support of my point. Tweedeldum and Tweedeldee, though the first one was by far the tweedeleDUM 'est.

Yeah. The new one's just TweedledINEFFECTIVE.:laugh2:
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

If the neck pocket is bigger than the neck heel then it won't matter if you put 12 screws in it, it'll move and that sucks.

Neck pocket fit is number ONE in my opinion for a bolt neck piece and even more on a Strat since they suffer from crap sustain right out of the gate!
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

Did politics just get brought up in a thread about fitting guitar necks?
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

My mind just exploded. That somebody can be so elitist about Les Pauls and then INSIST that his Warmoths are more Les Paul than the real thing...:smack:

Oh, gawd, don't get him started.
 
Re: How critical is a tight fit at the neck pocket for bolt ons??

I dip mine in morning dew on the Summer solstice whilst reciting incantations for the Holy hand grenade. Three times,three being the number.....
 
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