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When I put the P-90b in my LP, I thought I was in tonal heaven. Then I put a Custom8b in my SG and I couldn't make up my mind which guitar was the bomb. Then I got my '66 Wilshire (similar to SG) with mini-hums and now I can't bring myself to play anything else. This is truly a little monster, tonaly. But it plays better than any other guitar I've ever touched.

So I really understand that majic that can occur with the right guitar in the right hands.
 
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FTR I never said the SG would become the favourited axe, must suck for those feeling the hate! I'm kind of disappointed to hear this has happened lol.

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...just wait till you find a nice Tele!
Lets not get carried away with the concept and say crazy stuff like that. Back in your room!

SGs may be great guitars, and I've really been enjoying my MIJ SG copy, but Telecasters with modern pickups, and particularly with a humbucker or P-90 in the neck, can do ANY style of music through a good multi-channel tube amp. IMO If you want a guitar that's great for a few things, an SG is perfect for you. If you want a guitar that can do anything, a Tele is the superior option.

But yeah, SGs are great for rocking out. Get the tubes really hot, get into power stance and bathe in the cascading overdrive!
 
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IMO If you want a guitar that's great for a few things, an SG is perfect for you. If you want a guitar that can do anything, a Tele is the superior option.

What? You serious? Teles are very versatile but I can get a good tone for any style of music with my SG. I'd be willing to argue that my SG is just as versatile as any tele.
 
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Telecasters with modern pickups, and particularly with a humbucker or P-90 in the neck, can do ANY style of music through a good multi-channel tube amp. IMO If you want a guitar that's great for a few things, an SG is perfect for you. If you want a guitar that can do anything, a Tele is the superior option.

I guess Derek Trucks is a pretty limited player, stuck with an SG as he is. You do know there are SG's with P-90's (that came out many years before Fender started copying Gibson's PU's). And your reasoning that Tele's with P-90's and HB's, are so much more versatile than SG's with P-90's and HB's...? There's a lot of emotion and very little logic or facts to back it up.

When I look at Tele's, I see lots of country pickers. When I look at other genres of music, I see guys playing many other kinds of guitars, and very few Tele's.

Leo designed Tele's to be as cheap as possible to produce. Guitar manufacturers were horrifed at all the corners that were cut. It honestly set a new low in luthery. World famous guitar dealer, collector, and author George Gruhn wrote that Tele's: 'look like a high school shop project." Hey, it's fine if you like them, and some guys have done some amazing thing with them, but let's not elevate them to some mystical status. It's still a low budget guitar design, regardless of what Fender tries to charge for them these days. Even Tele-lover Brad Paisley calls them a slab of wood and a broomstick.
 
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Trying to tell Fender Punk that Squier Telecasters aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design is like telling bluesman335 that Epiphone G400's aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design.

Both of you need to wise up and switch to Silvertone.
 
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Trying to tell Fender Punk that Squier Telecasters aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design is like telling bluesman335 that Epiphone G400's aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design.

Both of you need to wise up and switch to Silvertone.

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Trying to tell Fender Punk that Squier Telecasters aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design is like telling bluesman335 that Epiphone G400's aren't the pinnacle of electric guitar design.

Both of you need to wise up and switch to Silvertone.

I'm talking about the original design; Leo spent his time trying gut as many features as possible and come up with a bare bones design that anyone could afford. Noble thought, but not a particularly impressive instrument.
 
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Just a fact of guitardom.

A really good SG can drop a mushroom bruise on most other guitars regardless of price or pedigree.

No explaining it. Just accept it.

Yeah my buddy has a SG and wow it sound so sick when he gets on it.
 
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I've always heard people say that SG's just have "it". To be honest I've never really picked up an SG. Glad to hear that you enjoy it.
 
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I'm talking about the original design; Leo spent his time trying gut as many features as possible and come up with a bare bones design that anyone could afford. Noble thought, but not a particularly impressive instrument.

yeah but that's what Tele players like in Teles...it's a cutting board with a baseball bat bolted to it that makes a noise when you plug it into something.

if you wanna go Tele vs. SG head to head...while i'll probably reach for my SG first, i'm glad I've got a Tele...and let's be historically accurate...

Gibson launched the SG because nobody was buying their Les Paul. It was a solidbody that looked like it should be a hollowbody -- all the hip young kids wanted solidbodies that looked like something the Jetsons would play, like that whacky spaceship-shaped Stratocaster. So Gibson's designers hit the drawing board and made a Fender-inspired Les Paul -- way slimmer, totally flat body with two cutaways and a big-ass whammy bar. It wasn't until the mid 60's when Clapton and Pagey started plugging Les Pauls into Marshalls on 10 that people got into "that" sound...

I use Pauls, Teles, Strats, SG's and even Jaguars to play everything from blues to metal. None of them are superior...but they all sound different. Better to exploit their individual strengths than sit around *****ing about their weaknesses.

Maybe that's why I can't gel with PRS and Suhr and the like...all that perfection shows that i have no character of my own, and rely on the guitar in my hand for inspiration :smokin:
 
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I'm a womanizer....F'em all! The dirty slut, the SG, the girl you can bring home to the parent's, the PRS, the groupie that rocks, the LP, the girl that requires a certain touch, the strat, the girl that likes some finger action, the tele, and Miss tubbo, the ES-335!
 
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and let's be historically accurate...Gibson launched the SG because nobody was buying their Les Paul.

Yes, let's be accurate. Les Pauls were selling in 1960, just not as many as Gibson wanted to sell. The guitars that 'nobody' bought were Explorers and V's. They died an agonizing death in 1959. Gibson came out with the modern-looking double cutaway SG in 1961 to go head-to-head with the Strat. They really didn't have to retire the LP to do it though.

Strats were great for that clean tinny sound of Buddy Holly, and all that jangly early 1960's pop, but they weren't known for being capable of producing a 'heavy' rock sound until years later, when Marshall entered the picture. Hendrix sold more Strats than any man in the world. Had he used a different model as his main guitar, I doubt we'd see so many Strats today.
 
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FTR I never said the SG would become the favourited axe, must suck for those feeling the hate! I'm kind of disappointed to hear this has happened lol.



SGs may be great guitars, and I've really been enjoying my MIJ SG copy, but Telecasters with modern pickups, and particularly with a humbucker or P-90 in the neck, can do ANY style of music through a good multi-channel tube amp. IMO If you want a guitar that's great for a few things, an SG is perfect for you. If you want a guitar that can do anything, a Tele is the superior option.

But yeah, SGs are great for rocking out. Get the tubes really hot, get into power stance and bathe in the cascading overdrive!

personally, i'm on the other end with that one. with an SG, or any gibson style instrument really, i feel i have a more versatile instrument, especially if i outfit the guitar with medium-high output pickups with coil cuts/coil swap. but then again, it really all depends on what you're used to and what you play;)

i bet you and i would make a great ska/punk/rock guitar duo:scratchch
 
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what the **** is wrong with you dudes? chill out.

for what it's worth: I've never LOVED PRS, and I took no part in the praise of PRS over Gibson.
 
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"I love my guitar."

"No, I love MY guitar. Yours sux."

"Aw, shut up. Both those guitars blow chunks. My guitar rules."

"My guitar..." "No, my guitar..." "No, my guitar..."


*singer gets the pouty 'I'm the real rock star in this band' look on its' face, bassist and drummer look at each other, shaking heads & laughing*

Would you all tune up, plug into an amp and play, already? We're on in 30 seconds!
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SG's have it all: looks, playablity, and sound. and when you factor in the cool models available now with different sounds and feel. there's the classic with p90s, re-issue '61, and standard, just to name a few. i'd love to have each one. i was a gibson lover from the start due to page. got my les paul studio about 10 years ago. but these days my sg classic seems to be the one i'm always reaching for. i almost feel like i'm cheating on my les paul since that was my longest guitar crush.
 
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