I just don't get dropped D tuning

millsart

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I do certainly understand what dropped D is of course, but I've got to say, everytime I tune to it, I just don't see the appeal. Though I'd share this not to judge anyone that likes it, but simply to hopefully get some different viewpoints and maybe open my eyes to things I've looked over.

I usually play in standard tuning or E flat. I used to play tuned to D back in the day as well though my taste has largely shifted away from heavier music of that style back to more of what I guess you would call "rock"

Anyways, sometimes I'll look up some tab on the internet as I'm not afraid to admit I can't always figure things out by ear and many times some of the songs are in dropped D.

So I'll go and drop the E string down for the heck of it but man, every time I do it, I just don't like it and don't see the point.

yes the "point" is that you can play a rooted 5th power chord with just one finger with a barre chord but is that really that important ?

Is it really that hard to play an "F" or "G" in standard tuning ? I certainly don't think so.

If anything I find it makes things more confusing for me because I've got the fret "C" and "D" and "E" in the normal position but then remember that "A" needs to be barred instead.

Maybe I'm alone but I just find that a little confusing, at least when I'm not used to it.


Additionally it always messed me up on any single note runs when I'm looking for a note on the low E and its not there unless I shift down two frets.


It just seems to me to present more disadvantages for most tunes than the small gain in being able to fret a power chord with one finger.

I can certainly see the point in some open tunings that make some tricker chords easier to fret, but standard position power chords are pretty darn simple aren't they ? They seem like the last thing that would need to be made easier.


So I welcome your thoughts and insights into why your fan, what advantages it gives your playing, things I haven't thought of and so forth.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with anyones use of it, nor does it change my respect for anyone, I just feel I must be missing something because its as popular as it is and yet I can't see why.
 
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Actually Drop D was a favorite of folk singers and classical players LONG before heavy music ever came around. By dropping that D down, it opens up another world of keys that you can use a lower note (the D obviously) for.

It also offers a low D drone for modal work as well. It's actually a very useful tuning as is double drop D
 
Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

PLay Everlong by Foo Fighters and Pins And Needles by Billy Talent, preferably on a tele if you have one (Everlong on the middle setting and Pins And Needles on the bridge pup). You'll understand! ;)




In all reality, I see the point of it as being able to go lower and heavier. Like you can't play D5 an octave lower than the power chord in standard. I see it as being there just to be able to go a bit lower, and for riffs (like in Pins And Needles, Heart Shaped Box, etc) it really provides a nice sound. If you were to drop D just you so you could play something that could be played in standard, but with one finger, than you're lazy IMO.
 
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Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

Try lowering your E string to D and then writing a cool new tune of your own in the key of D. Then you'll get it.

Lew
 
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Some good points brought up (and quickly too, i was thinking this thread probably wouldn't get much traffic)

Definatly a good point regarding the use of the tuning for some other styles of music. If your using your thumb to fret the 6th to play a bit of bass to accompany your chording/lead it really would open up some needed possiblilites.

I've got to admit that I tend to think a little to much "inside the box" based upon my own little world of what I play and listen to sometimes. There really is a staggering number of tunings and styles out there and some of then I can't even begin to get my head around lol.

Definatly is very useful for tunes like Heart Shaped Box, or All Apologies, which I also think is dropped D ? Its certainly true you couldn't play that any other way.


I still find it a very tough tuning to "live with" so to speak. I would guess you'd want to have a guitar just for that tuning, or maybe that nifty little EVH designed thing that lets you switch back and forth on the fly. Does they still even sell those as a stand alone item ?


I do read a bunch about how its the greatest thing since sliced bread though because it makes playing so much easier because you can use one finger. Whatever works for people works for people, and more power to them if so, however, I guess thats the one thing that really always struck me the part I don't get becaue as I said, I always found it harder, not easier.

Its that conscience need to remember that I need to change the postion of my fret hand to the "easier" postion on one string but then fret it normally on the next.

Maybe I just need to tune to it and keep it there for a week or more and really get used to it. I always do it and tune back after about 30 minutes of jamming because it just doesnt seem to work.

Perhaps I just haven't given it enough of a chance
 
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I like it because it helps me to get these absolutely humongus full sounding chords that I couldn't get with standard tuning unless I had fingers like a licorace stick. Here's a quick little prime example.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=158146&songID=2376159

Not really my style but it sounds KICK ASS!! Man that Jazz sounds HUGE! Cool stuff bro. Nice little solo lick. I knew you could drink, did't know you could actually play well! :D :beerchug:
 
Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

Actually Drop D was a favorite of folk singers and classical players LONG before heavy music ever came around. By dropping that D down, it opens up another world of keys that you can use a lower note (the D obviously) for.

It also offers a low D drone for modal work as well. It's actually a very useful tuning as is double drop D

Having the droning low D sounds great for acoustic stuff. I wrote a song in D, but it just seemed to be missing some "oomph" to it. So I tuned the E string down to D, and played it with that ringing out. Suddenly, the oomph and everything else the song needed was there, sounded so full with just the acoustic.

It can be fun to just write heavy sounding things in drop D too. I don't play heavy metal, but it's a guilty pleasure of mine to try and write the heaviest possible riffs I can in drop D for fun :D
 
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While I personally don't like it/write in it that much, I can definitely see it's uses, and have resorted to doing it before.

Just today I had a little clean ditty going and as I was descending and following a pattern I heard in my head, I found that my low D (I tune in D standard) just wasn't quite low enough, as I was hearing a low C in my head. Dropped the string a note and it sounds perfect now!

Like any other tuning, it just opens up new doorways - that's all.
 
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Drop D sounds heavier than standard. Just like Eb sounds different than E standard. When I want to play heavy riffs, I tune to drop D, when I want to play REALLY heavy riffs, I wish I had one of my guitars tuned to drop C.

Double Drop D is great for droning acoustic jamming, it's like half of Open D, so you get drones, but most of the notes are where you think they are.
 
Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

Drop the E down to D, crank up your amp, and hit an open D chord with that low string. Tons of Neil Young songs are in drop (or double drop) D, too.
 
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You can get some of the coolest voicings just by dropping one or both E's to D that are otherwise impossible. Like:

With just the low E dropped to D, Dmaj6/9 over G. The numbers are the fret numbers and the letters are the fingers (i = index, etc.)

---------------7(p)
------5(i)-------
-----------6(m)-
---------------7(r)
------5(i)-------
------5(i)-------
 
Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

A lot of folk-rockers use 'd modal' tuning, which has both E strings dropped to D.

"Cinnamon Girl" uses that tuning.

Many, many moons ago there was a funny thread on this forum called "Drop D Is for Wussies." It was funny.

I like drop D fine.
 
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Nobody has mentioned slide ... Drop-D opens a lot of opportunities if you play slide in standard tuning and just was to open up the lower registers to some 3 string 1s-5s. But everything else remains the same. Easy to tune up and down quickly, as well.

I got turned on to it by Kirk Lorange. He plays in Drop-D most of the time whether he's playing slide or not. Pretty awesome.

EDIT: Most of the comments in this thread ... all but mine really ... seem to be about the heavier power chord stuff. I wonder if anyone else has found this slide tuning ... melodic ... opening up the lower registers.
 
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Re: I just don't get dropped D tuning

It's all about drop A.
This man knows the truth.

I can play faster in a dropped tuning, so I use it, and I mean a LOT faster, lol. But that's just because of the style of what I play requires me to move between chords and such very quickly up and down the fretboard. It's easier to just hold my index finger and tehn press down another finger than to move my whole hand.
 
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"It's all over now baby blue" just doesn't sound the same without that open E string tuned to D and ringing throughout. I do not use it often however.
 
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I'm with you millsart. I never felt comfortable in that tuning at all. Sure it sounds heavier, but there is just something about playing something heavier with just one finger that I find weak.

I also find Eb to be a silly tuning as well, except if you have a singer that can't sing in standard - well it's a little easier anyway.

I used ta play in standard for 13 years, but I think it was in January of this year that I fell in love with a heavier gauge string. That forced me to tune all the strings down one whole step. Now I get the familiarity of standard tuning and a 'heavier' sound. Funny thing is, now when I pick up an axe in standard tuning - it sounds like Alvin and the Chimpmunks. Can't get into it.
 
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Without dropped D there is no Van Halen's Unchained, there is no Alice in Chains Dirt, etc.

I mean it's just another tuning. To go even further, The Rain Song is in open D or F or E or something, literally it would be impossible to play that song in standard tuning.

There's nothing to get, whatever it takes to write a song is exactly what was needed be it dropped D, open tunings, or using a capo.
 
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