...I think I want a Jackson.

[Jessie Sammler]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I feel like they challenge me to play better and to learn more. The guitar responds so well to what I do right -- and wrong -- that I wish I'd started out with one. In a sense, I feel like I'm starting over with it. Everything that came before was just an introduction; now I'm ready to play.

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

That's not an ESP. A real ESP is an amazing guitar with normally top-notch fit and finish, top shelf hardware and pickups etc.

this is a very very good point.

granted, I got it for the price of the import jackson Zerb linked me to, so it is a fair comparison.

 

[Got_tone?]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

IDK, a Jackson without a Floyd defeats the purpose of a "fender on steroids", IMO. You can get that minus the 24 frets with any fender with decent med to high outputs pups.

 

[Jessie Sammler]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

IDK, a Jackson without a Floyd defeats the purpose of a "fender on steroids", IMO. You can get that minus the 24 frets with any fender with decent med to high outputs pups.

I'm not so sure that you can. Compare the basic construction of a USA Soloist with a Strat. Fender doesn't give you neck-through-body maple, an angled headstock, or a compound-radius ebony fingerboard. There is also the pickguard factor. All in all, when you pick up a Soloist or any of the neck-through Jacksons, it's pretty obvious you're not playing a Strat.

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I'm not so sure that you can. Compare the basic construction of a USA Soloist with a Strat. Fender doesn't give you neck-through-body maple, an angled headstock, or a compound-radius ebony fingerboard. There is also the pickguard factor. All in all, when you pick up a Soloist or any of the neck-through Jacksons, it's pretty obvious you're not playing a Strat.

exactly.

I love the commodity of a guitar with those features.

 

[Jessie Sammler]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

exactly.

I love the commodity of a guitar with those features.

Commodity? How do you mean?

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

Maybe I didnt use the best word.

low action, modern fingerboard, woods I like, good pickups.

 

[metalmachine]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

jackson performer series are amazing if you want a low cost metal guitar

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

jackson performer series are amazing if you want a low cost metal guitar

doesnt have to be a budget guitar really, though I know those are good.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I just want a SL2H.


And maybe a DK2M.

 

[Got_tone?]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I'm not so sure that you can. Compare the basic construction of a USA Soloist with a Strat. Fender doesn't give you neck-through-body maple, an angled headstock, or a compound-radius ebony fingerboard. There is also the pickguard factor. All in all, when you pick up a Soloist or any of the neck-through Jacksons, it's pretty obvious you're not playing a Strat.

exactly.

I love the commodity of a guitar with those features.

Warmoth my friends. I can get all that expect the neck through. True it might not feel the same but it'll sound just about. If you're going for the feel of a Jackson and decide no floyd, go for it. But I'd still think you're getting a cheeseburger with no cheese. :friday:

 

[Jessie Sammler]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

But I'd still think you're getting a cheeseburger with no cheese. :friday:

It's called a hamburger, and sometimes I prefer them to cheesburgers.

 

[dominus]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

Warmoth my friends. I can get all that expect the neck through. True it might not feel the same but it'll sound just about. If you're going for the feel of a Jackson and decide no floyd, go for it. But I'd still think you're getting a cheeseburger with no cheese. :friday:

I always order cheeseburgers without cheese. Wendy's has these double stack burgers.. two patties, cheese, mayo, onions, catsup.. I get them with just the catsup.

Not everyone needs a Floyd.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

jackson performer series are amazing if you want a low cost metal guitar

Jackson Performer series from 1995 were MIJ and great.
Performers from 96-97 (MIK) were all over teh place, with misplaced bridges being one of the most common errors.

Discontinuing them in 97 was one of the smartest things Jackson ever did IMO, they were destroying their reputation with them...

Warmoth my friends. I can get all that expect the neck through. True it might not feel the same but it'll sound just about. If you're going for the feel of a Jackson and decide no floyd, go for it. But I'd still think you're getting a cheeseburger with no cheese. :friday:

Since when does Warmoth:
Assemble guitars?
Do custom graphics?
Use real MOP?
Offer a lifetime guarantee to the original owner?
Cost less?
Offer the correct heel width for Jackson USAS and the proper neck length for 24 fret 25.5" scale guitars?

I understand why people recommend Warmoth, but most that recommend it at a time like this don´t understand why they shouldn´t. You hinted to it not feeling the same, which is most definitely true, but there are other good reasons as well.

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

True that. Floyds aren't necessary. I don't like em all that much as I thrash too hard when I palm mute and leads to tone variances. . . . ugh.

 

[Got_tone?]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

Zerb, I didn't even recommend warmoth, I was replying to what Jessie had said about basic construction between a jackson or fender. When astro said "fender on steriods" I thought he was referring to tone. If it's based on looks, a Jackson will smoke a fender for the "steriods" looks.There's no Jackson bashing here if that's what you guys are thinking.

Some you guys like burgers with no cheese, that's cool. I like my burgers with cheese. :bling: :friday:

 

[Zerberus]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I didn´t think you were bashing in any way, but the way your statement was worded seemed to imply that a Warmoth would be a better choice unless one was set on an neckthru. So I felt it a fitting time to list the most basic differences between Warmoth, a "parts company" and a real "guitar company" as I´ve done so often in the past :beerchug:

Many feel that a Warmoth is almost universally a better deal because they value their time at 0.00$/hr and can do setups, finishing, and basic fretwork themselves. Unfortunately most of them forget that those 2 things are not merely of assistance but basically essential to the guitar being "more for less"... as soon as a competitive hourly wage is calculated or a luthier is employed, the "deal" factor is almost instantly gone and it becomes an instrument that you either built because you REALLY wanted exactly what it is in every detail, or it becomes a finincial mistake with nearly zero resale value.

Side Note: I`ve never seen a Warmoth, Mighty Mite, Sllparts, USACG, Chandler, Stew-Mac, CHarvel or other brand new "spare" neck come with what I consider to be first class fretwork. IMO and experience they ALL need a fret dressing. Maybe it´s my standards being too high, but I don`t consider wanting buzz-free action <1.2mm at the 12th fret to be too high from any perspective.

On the subject of "floydless" Jacksons: It never bothered any of these guitars...

Nor did The ORIGINAL Jackson guitar seem to care much...

I don´t mean to discount your opinion, but I don´t think there is any maker currently on the market who´s entire line stands or falls with a single piece of hardware...

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

i said that since jackson is in the FMIC.

its how i saw it in my mind.

 

[astrozombie]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I didn´t think you were bashing in any way, but the way your statement was worded seemed to imply that a Warmoth would be a better choice unless one was set on an neckthru. So I felt it a fitting time to list the most basic differences between Warmoth, a "parts company" and a real "guitar company" asd I´ve done so often in the past :beerchug:

Many feel that a warmoth is a better deal because they value their time at 0.00$/hr and can do setups and basic fretwork themselves. Unfortunately most of them forget that those 2 things are not merely of assistance but basically essential to the guitar being "more for less".. as soon as an hourly wage is calculated or a luthier is employed, the "deal" factor is gone and it becomes an instrument that you either built because you REALLY wanted exactly what it is in every, or it becomes a finincial mistake with nearly zero resale value.

Side Note: I`ve never seen a Warmoth, Mighty Mite, Sllparts, USACG, Chandler, Stew-Mac, CHarvel or other brand new "spare" neck come with what I consider to be first class fretwork.

this is why i buy from companies and do minor changes myself instead of buy parts from a supplier.

 

[Got_tone?]

Re: ...I think I want a Jackson.

I didn´t think you were bashing in any way, but the way your statement was worded seemed to imply that a Warmoth would be a better choice unless one was set on an neckthru. So I felt it a fitting time to list the most basic differences between Warmoth, a "parts company" and a real "guitar company" as I´ve done so often in the past :beerchug:

ooOOOHHHH.....Okay, I see. I'll try word my statements better next time. :smack: