I'm selling everything i have

[B2D]

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ok then i'm buying his hands

either way you can't argue a MIA strat into a vibroverb

I want a Vibroverb RI so bad. Those amps are the thing for clean tones, to me. Couple that up with a good strat and it really is one of the more expressive-sounding guitar/amp pairings you can get.

The flip side of that coin, though, is that if you play like crap then you'll sound like crap. That's where the hands come in.

 

[d1dsj]

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I like the guys playing, very authentic! Cool.... and I agree that alot is in the hands.

 

[barbarianbrute]

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hahaha

is there a word for a rebuttle touche?

if there is, well, you get the point

touche

Main Entry: tou·ché
Pronunciation: \tü-ˈshā\
Function: interjection
Etymology: French, from past participle of toucher to touch, from Old French tuchier
Date: 1904
—used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point

punk

 

[StrangeSound]

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Man I dig this tone.

 

[barbarianbrute]

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Man I dig this tone.

explain this to me please. i've heard a zillion people cop srv tone and he doesn't sound any different to me. i'm not putting it down or anything, i just don't hear it. what is it that all you guys seem to be hearing that i don't? what's really so great about his tone? please explain where all the rave is based on. he's still playing in boxes and sounds similar to srv, so what am i missing?

 

[StrangeSound]

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It's a feeling, hard to describe..it just sounds right to my ears, balanced, raunchy..I like this tone in general.

I agree with you, this guy isn't the first one with this tone/sound whatever but I didn't say I only like his tone, if it was another guy with similar tone, I'd like it, too!

Which sound(s) do you like?

 

[barbarianbrute]

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It's a feeling, hard to describe..it just sounds right to my ears, balanced, raunchy..I like this tone in general.

I agree with you, this guy isn't the first one with this tone/sound whatever but I didn't say I only like his tone, if it was another guy with similar tone, I'd like it, too!

Which sound(s) do you like?

don't get me wrong, i think it sounds pretty good. i'm just trying to understand what people generally like about tone. the whole srv thing seems to remain very popular. i personally like heavier tones, but lately i'm stuck on the michael shenker sound.

how do you get that srv tone anyway? i've heard he used tube screamers through a marshall. how do you know when you've got too much gain with this kind of tone?

 

[StrangeSound]

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This tone is accepted in the "guitar world" and the SRV legacy has also done quite a job.

I'm no blues expert but it won't take miracles to get this tone, though the playing has to kick ass.

 

[d1dsj]

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The only way I could describe what I'm hearing is that he's playing by feel... by all accounts NOT technically brilliant ( probably better than I am so I'm not knocking it), nice touch, light and shade.... Good pick attack variation and dynamics... accentuating what is needed. And then there's the tone... nice and open, resonant and woody. Ha ha ha... am I trying to describe a decent bottle of wine or what???? Sorry guys..... I know what I mean, you'll just have to bear with me!

 

[StrangeSound]

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The only way I could describe what I'm hearing is that he's playing by feel... by all accounts NOT technically brilliant ( probably better than I am so I'm not knocking it), nice touch, light and shade.... Good pick attack variation and dynamics... accentuating what is needed. And then there's the tone... nice and open, resonant and woody. Ha ha ha... am I trying to describe a decent bottle of wine or what???? Sorry guys..... I know what I mean, you'll just have to bear with me!

Haha no, it's perfect!

With this kind of tone you can express the things you've mentioned, best!

 

[Hot _Grits]

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explain this to me please. i've heard a zillion people cop srv tone and he doesn't sound any different to me. i'm not putting it down or anything, i just don't hear it. what is it that all you guys seem to be hearing that i don't? what's really so great about his tone? please explain where all the rave is based on. he's still playing in boxes and sounds similar to srv, so what am i missing?

In a word: Soul.

It's quite funny really, you often post up with questions where you ask us all to explain why we may value something that doesn't jive with you, such as a 'box playing blues guitarist with SLOP(tm)', as if you can't understand how on earth other people can manage to entertained by such 'low standard fare'.

And while it's cool that you wish to understand, I don't really know how to explain an intangible like SOUL to you.

I could link up some Youtube videos of Al Green, I guess, but I imagine that'd fly right over your head and into the next county.

Judging by your tastes (porn soundtrack blues-by-numbers-era Gary Moore, Schenker, Gilbert, Smith, and Mr 'Junior High School rhythm section' himself, Eric Johnson), you like your rock emoting to sound pretty orderly. Nothing too frayed or unusual. I've heard such tastes described as 'European' before, but that just brings to mind not enough shaving for me...

Some people get the idea that much of the beauty of modern popular music is in the grease, and some don't. You're in the latter camp, and it'll probably save you some blood vessels and a host of keystrokes if you come to the understanding that there's a big chunk of folk out there that like things a little rougher...

Anyways, I'd suggest you buy a copy of 'Texas Flood' and some looser underpants. After that, I'm all fresh out of ideas.

 

[crusty philtrum]

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^^ ...wot he said....

take a listen to Paul Kossoff (Free). Better still, don't listen to him, just see if his playing can get inside you. That guy plays so little, so simplistically and sounds wonky and almost out-of-tune sometimes. But he can wrench your heart out. He is fondly remembered around the world as one of the greats. A special soul. Then see if you can affect a listener with even a fraction of such emotion and perhaps see that it is a language, and sometimes just a few clumsy primitive words can convey such moving emotions.

 

[barbarianbrute]

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In a word: Soul.

It's quite funny really, you often post up with questions where you ask us all to explain why we may value something that doesn't jive with you, such as a 'box playing blues guitarist with SLOP(tm)', as if you can't understand how on earth other people can manage to entertained by such 'low standard fare'.

And while it's cool that you wish to understand, I don't really know how to explain an intangible like SOUL to you.

I could link up some Youtube videos of Al Green, I guess, but I imagine that'd fly right over your head and into the next county.

Judging by your tastes (porn soundtrack blues-by-numbers-era Gary Moore, Schenker, Gilbert, Smith, and Mr 'Junior High School rhythm section' himself, Eric Johnson), you like your rock emoting to sound pretty orderly. Nothing too frayed or unusual. I've heard such tastes described as 'European' before, but that just brings to mind not enough shaving for me...

Some people get the idea that much of the beauty of modern popular music is in the grease, and some don't. You're in the latter camp, and it'll probably save you some blood vessels and a host of keystrokes if you come to the understanding that there's a big chunk of folk out there that like things a little rougher...

Anyways, I'd suggest you buy a copy of 'Texas Flood' and some looser underpants. After that, I'm all fresh out of ideas.

i detect a hint of insult there, but i won't let it get to me this time. i've been listening to srv for 15 years and happen to own most of this albums. in fact, texas flood and riviera paradise are two of the few srv songs i play. i don't need a lesson in soul or rock history.

the thing is that i don't see what it was about that dude's video that was so great. his playing was mediocre and his tone seemed pretty common to me. in fact, as critical as some of you guys seem to be when it comes to recording, i've heard no critique about his videocamera microphone recording. so other than the fact that you managed to insult my knowledge of the blues and taste in music, i've heard nothing from that would give me the impression that you're more than a guitar fan or casual player.

 

[drew_half_empty]

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i dunno, he's better than i am haha

at least at blues, that's one of the only genres i can't hold my own at, metal being the other. Difference is, i have no desire to be good at metal

and yeah it was a bad recording, but it still sounds awesome despite the crappy mic

 

[barbarianbrute]

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i dunno, he's better than i am haha

at least at blues, that's one of the only genres i can't hold my own at, metal being the other. Difference is, i have no desire to be good at metal

and yeah it was a bad recording, but it still sounds awesome despite the crappy mic

well what would be typical amp settings for texas blues? how do you know when you've applied too much gain to get that kind of tone?

 

[ModestCargo]

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well what would be typical amp settings for texas blues? how do you know when you've applied too much gain to get that kind of tone?

Usually when you use "gain" period IMO.

That kind of sound comes from a cranked amplifier.

Sometimes pushing something like a BF Fender with a tube screamer with the dist. set low works, but I prefer the good ol' cranked amp phenomenon.

 

[barbarianbrute]

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Usually when you use "gain" period IMO.

That kind of sound comes from a cranked amplifier.

Sometimes pushing something like a BF Fender with a tube screamer with the dist. set low works, but I prefer the good ol' cranked amp phenomenon.

so if you used a clean channel and a tube screamer, what eq settings would you use on the amp and what level would you set the tube screamer drive level?

 

[drew_half_empty]

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^agreed. When you're playing, and instead of thinking your tone is clean with some spice you think it's distorted, you've got too much

really though i think acdc only used slightly more gain than the blues guys. People don't need as much distortion as they think they do

on the other hand, kicking on a big muff is usually a guaranteed smile

and settings have too many variables. The guitar, the room, the floor, all those things change the sound quite a bit. My settings in my room are WAAAY different than they are at practice, but the sound is pretty much the same

 

[ModestCargo]

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so if you used a clean channel and a tube screamer, what eq settings would you use on the amp and what level would you set the tube screamer drive level?

EQ settings, that really depends on the amp.

For a BF Fender I would usually set the bass at 5 and treble between 3 and 5 depending on the amp, guitar etc.

The level on the tube screamer should be at least unity obviously, and at most all the way up, depending on how hard you want to hit the preamp and how buzzy your preamp is. On my Deluxe Reverb the TS is buzzy at any setting through the vibrato channel - it really sounds better on the normal channel, much smoother.

The distortion on the tube screamer would be all the way down, this still adds quite a bit of distortion.

Tone on the TS usually would be halfway.

 

[ModestCargo]

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really though i think acdc only used slightly more gain than the blues guys. People don't need as much distortion as they think they do

The AC/DC sound (at least in the studio) is a cranked JTM45.

I really like the first album's tones, that really is rock and roll to me. The amp is pretty clean until you really dig in for leads, then it's fat and sustaining.

Edit: About the distortion thing, well, that's really something that works in my favor. My tone stands out in the crowd because it has dynamics and can go from almost clean to primal scream. Inexperienced players typically use WAY too much distortion.