maestroberetta
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
Riley do you know what type of wire was used in the hunter ?
Riley do you know what type of wire was used in the hunter ?
Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
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Aceman
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
This - right here. Every time our latest artist of past glory tweaks the wire in a pickup, and then it becomes available, we lose our minds. Slash, DeMartini, inch, whoever. This is just the latest example of tone idiocy. I'm just sitting here shaking my head.
These guys DID NOT get famous with MJ custom pickups wound in 47 ever-so-slightly different flavors. Lynch played a Distortion, Warren played JB's, and Slash played an A2P. We can go on....And those are GROSS generalizations.
As said - these guys recorded their stuff in a studio ran by an engineer, with one or two dozen guitars around. They did not record the album with whatever sig axe you think they used from promo photos. Odds are extremely good up to three guitars layed down the rhythm tracks, and that there we're at least two takes of the solo, and on different days with different guitars. Because that's what producers do! They try different things and use the best combination. Same for the amp. There was this guy known for Marshalls and a Les Pauls....but I'm pretty sure in the studio a few of your favorite heavy tracks were a Fe4nder Champ and a Danelectro.
So you if you want to engage in pickup tweek-mania go ahead. But at least admit it. If you want to sound like Lynch from 1987 get a heavy ESP-ish Strat, put a Distortion in it, throw in a digital delay, and play through a Randall amp. If you can't hit that tone with that, and some knob adjustments, this pickup won't do it any more than a distortion off the shelf from GC.
And for that matter, I'm asking myself if I have even heard Lynch play anything new in the last decade I cared about. Also - I actually play in hair metal band. In My Dreams was played Thursday night. The vocal harmonies left a lot to be desired. But the JB loaded Ibanez through an MXR 78 Badass and a Carbon Copy was was a Bad@$$ carbon copy over from what I heard on my side of the stage....
All my opinion....not hating. If you are "that guy" who wants to be one hair closer to whatever you think you think you know about George thinks was used - go for it. It's fun. Just say it that way.
This - right here. Every time our latest artist of past glory tweaks the wire in a pickup, and then it becomes available, we lose our minds. Slash, DeMartini, inch, whoever. This is just the latest example of tone idiocy. I'm just sitting here shaking my head.
These guys DID NOT get famous with MJ custom pickups wound in 47 ever-so-slightly different flavors. Lynch played a Distortion, Warren played JB's, and Slash played an A2P. We can go on....And those are GROSS generalizations.
As said - these guys recorded their stuff in a studio ran by an engineer, with one or two dozen guitars around. They did not record the album with whatever sig axe you think they used from promo photos. Odds are extremely good up to three guitars layed down the rhythm tracks, and that there we're at least two takes of the solo, and on different days with different guitars. Because that's what producers do! They try different things and use the best combination. Same for the amp. There was this guy known for Marshalls and a Les Pauls....but I'm pretty sure in the studio a few of your favorite heavy tracks were a Fe4nder Champ and a Danelectro.
So you if you want to engage in pickup tweek-mania go ahead. But at least admit it. If you want to sound like Lynch from 1987 get a heavy ESP-ish Strat, put a Distortion in it, throw in a digital delay, and play through a Randall amp. If you can't hit that tone with that, and some knob adjustments, this pickup won't do it any more than a distortion off the shelf from GC.
And for that matter, I'm asking myself if I have even heard Lynch play anything new in the last decade I cared about. Also - I actually play in hair metal band. In My Dreams was played Thursday night. The vocal harmonies left a lot to be desired. But the JB loaded Ibanez through an MXR 78 Badass and a Carbon Copy was was a Bad@$$ carbon copy over from what I heard on my side of the stage....
All my opinion....not hating. If you are "that guy" who wants to be one hair closer to whatever you think you think you know about George thinks was used - go for it. It's fun. Just say it that way.
gregory
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
+1
I've heard at least one person on this forum unequivocally say that the TB-12 wasn't used on the Wicked Sensation album. If you watch the recordings of some of the actual solos that can be found on the album in his REH video you will see what guitar he used. If you carefully watch the video in parts where he removes his hand from covering the bridge pickup you can see the claim was bunk. He does in fact use a TB-12 Screamin' Demon.
Anyway, I just wanted to clear that up.
IMO, his solo tone and rhythm parts on that album where he used the very distinctive TB-12 slay anything he had ever done up to that point.
+1
I've heard at least one person on this forum unequivocally say that the TB-12 wasn't used on the Wicked Sensation album. If you watch the recordings of some of the actual solos that can be found on the album in his REH video you will see what guitar he used. If you carefully watch the video in parts where he removes his hand from covering the bridge pickup you can see the claim was bunk. He does in fact use a TB-12 Screamin' Demon.
Anyway, I just wanted to clear that up.
IMO, his solo tone and rhythm parts on that album where he used the very distinctive TB-12 slay anything he had ever done up to that point.
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Sirion
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
To be fair, I showed you an almost 30 y/o clip where he explicitly stated that he was using a rewound Distortion, which is what this is supposedly based on. As of yet it is impossible to say which guitars he had it in, beyond the one he had in his hands at the time, but to say that he played a distortion is evidently false.
To be fair, I showed you an almost 30 y/o clip where he explicitly stated that he was using a rewound Distortion, which is what this is supposedly based on. As of yet it is impossible to say which guitars he had it in, beyond the one he had in his hands at the time, but to say that he played a distortion is evidently false.
Sirion
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
That might have been me (although I am sure we are talking about Wicked Sensation, and not the S/T from 1992), and I am not convinced from that picture, to be honest. With the low resolution and the shade from his hand, I am not convinced that those are hex pole pieces, even if it might look like it. Incidentally, I found the guitar on his old website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040606130842/http://www.georgelynch.com:80/guitars/esporange.html
It looks like the same pickup to me, but this is what the page says:
"While the original ESP pickups where taken out, they were replaced with a Duncan JB pickup and two Duncan SSL strat pickups. The bridge is an original Floyd Rose."
Then again, I have found evidence that the information there is not always 100% correct, so who knows?
And yes, I know, this is cork sniffing territory, but at least it is fun!
PS: Good find! I tried getting a shot of the bridge humbucker, but couldn't.
That might have been me (although I am sure we are talking about Wicked Sensation, and not the S/T from 1992), and I am not convinced from that picture, to be honest. With the low resolution and the shade from his hand, I am not convinced that those are hex pole pieces, even if it might look like it. Incidentally, I found the guitar on his old website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040606130842/http://www.georgelynch.com:80/guitars/esporange.html
It looks like the same pickup to me, but this is what the page says:
"While the original ESP pickups where taken out, they were replaced with a Duncan JB pickup and two Duncan SSL strat pickups. The bridge is an original Floyd Rose."
Then again, I have found evidence that the information there is not always 100% correct, so who knows?
And yes, I know, this is cork sniffing territory, but at least it is fun!
PS: Good find! I tried getting a shot of the bridge humbucker, but couldn't.
gregory
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
Yep, Wicked Sensation. My bad.
Regarding the shadow, I've since updated my picture. Pictures aside, his tone sounds nothing like a JB, but it does sound just like a Screamin' Demon and I'll happily put my cork-sniffing nose on the line on that one.
...and you can clearly tell from the video that the guitar did not contain SSL-1s.
Yep, Wicked Sensation. My bad.
Regarding the shadow, I've since updated my picture. Pictures aside, his tone sounds nothing like a JB, but it does sound just like a Screamin' Demon and I'll happily put my cork-sniffing nose on the line on that one.
...and you can clearly tell from the video that the guitar did not contain SSL-1s.
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I think it isn't so much that a particular artist used a particular pickup on certain songs. Obviously, if it is a new signature pickup, there is less of a chance it was used on a song you remember from 30 years ago. Associating a product with any artist is sort of like getting a personal recommendation from an artist you might admire.
"I really believe in this product, and think that if you've liked my music in the past and admired my tone, well, this is another tone I use"
This is the same as modern signature guitars from people famous 30-40 years ago. EVH certainly didn't use his signature guitar on his most famous songs, or his signature amp. But that association is certainly worth something, and if you dig EVH, you will listen to what he is saying he likes *now*.
I think it isn't so much that a particular artist used a particular pickup on certain songs. Obviously, if it is a new signature pickup, there is less of a chance it was used on a song you remember from 30 years ago. Associating a product with any artist is sort of like getting a personal recommendation from an artist you might admire.
"I really believe in this product, and think that if you've liked my music in the past and admired my tone, well, this is another tone I use"
This is the same as modern signature guitars from people famous 30-40 years ago. EVH certainly didn't use his signature guitar on his most famous songs, or his signature amp. But that association is certainly worth something, and if you dig EVH, you will listen to what he is saying he likes *now*.
Sirion
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
True, the single coils look like they could have been Hot Rails? Or possibly the stock ESP pickups that came with the guitar?
True, the single coils look like they could have been Hot Rails? Or possibly the stock ESP pickups that came with the guitar?
gregory
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I've dug EVH ever since I first really listened to him as a pup in 1980. Hang 'em High is it for me. His tone on Carnal Knowledge was only meh but it was new and different. His tone on ADKOT: not so much. This isn't to say I don't necessarily like the 5153 or whatever else he's using; I do like the 5153, just not for him. For modern amps that can still do the brown thing, I prefer 3rd Power and especially dig what I've heard Dylana do with it (a shout out to one helluva guitar player and instructor).
I'll listen to what he's playing, even begrudgingly if I'm not crazy about the tone (and I haven't been for quite some time now). I'm definitely not one who will buy whatever my "guitar hero" uses, let alone buy whatever he deems to be the latest and greatest.
I've dug EVH ever since I first really listened to him as a pup in 1980. Hang 'em High is it for me. His tone on Carnal Knowledge was only meh but it was new and different. His tone on ADKOT: not so much. This isn't to say I don't necessarily like the 5153 or whatever else he's using; I do like the 5153, just not for him. For modern amps that can still do the brown thing, I prefer 3rd Power and especially dig what I've heard Dylana do with it (a shout out to one helluva guitar player and instructor).
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gregory
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
EDIT:
We already know that is the guitar used to record many (most? all?) of the solos on Wicked Sensation. It's quite easy to identify what the pickups were, especially based on the way they sound, despite whatever Aceman has to say about it.
They look like ESP Power Rails: rounded ends with small white print centered above the top rail nearest the neck. The ones I've seen for sale were ~7k. I have no idea what gauge of wire, but to me they sound under-wound just like the TB-12. A very good pairing for what I like to do with gain.
EDIT:
We already know that is the guitar used to record many (most? all?) of the solos on Wicked Sensation. It's quite easy to identify what the pickups were, especially based on the way they sound, despite whatever Aceman has to say about it.
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Aceman
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I don't think so. There was a time to dig EVH. It isn't *now*. It isn't anything he has been saying or digging for the past decade. I get it - there are Uber-Fanboys that will invest themselves in First Act if that's what he is playing.
And I also get that any Pup Duncan winds for the EVH First Act guitar may or may not be the tonal cat's meow. It could be a great pickup for all sorts of tonal desires and meh sounding guitars.
All I see here are people trying figure out what pickups Lynch used or didn't use on this or that. As if that can really be answered....which, as Sirion and I pointed out, probably can't.
And hey - maybe I'll LOVE this new pickup. But I'll love it for what it is.
And yes Dave - we'll all go out and buy this new Duncan product. Don't worry....
I don't think so. There was a time to dig EVH. It isn't *now*. It isn't anything he has been saying or digging for the past decade. I get it - there are Uber-Fanboys that will invest themselves in First Act if that's what he is playing.
And I also get that any Pup Duncan winds for the EVH First Act guitar may or may not be the tonal cat's meow. It could be a great pickup for all sorts of tonal desires and meh sounding guitars.
All I see here are people trying figure out what pickups Lynch used or didn't use on this or that. As if that can really be answered....which, as Sirion and I pointed out, probably can't.
And hey - maybe I'll LOVE this new pickup. But I'll love it for what it is.
And yes Dave - we'll all go out and buy this new Duncan product. Don't worry....
Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I still think there are as many guitarists obsessed with EVH now as they were 30 years ago. They are just a lot older. But they still dig what he has done as much as ever. I think he sells a ton of EVH guitars and 5150 amps, too.
I still think there are as many guitarists obsessed with EVH now as they were 30 years ago. They are just a lot older. But they still dig what he has done as much as ever. I think he sells a ton of EVH guitars and 5150 amps, too.
ntotoro
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I can give it a spin for you, if you like...
My Hunter pickup is finished now. I won't be able to try it until this summer, but I'll post a nice photo of it when it arrives.
I can give it a spin for you, if you like...
STLMTLHD79
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
I just bought 2 cheap JB's from a guy on facebook-one is a standard-spaced double fillister-screw bobbin version (ala Alan Holdsworth model) and one is a standard trembucker. I will probably put a ceramic mag in the trembucker but thought about the double screw version as well. It will be that interesting to see how close it gets to the tone.
I do want to try this Hunter pickup pretty badly. I have the perfect guitar to put it in. Somebody give this pickup a review!
I just bought 2 cheap JB's from a guy on facebook-one is a standard-spaced double fillister-screw bobbin version (ala Alan Holdsworth model) and one is a standard trembucker. I will probably put a ceramic mag in the trembucker but thought about the double screw version as well. It will be that interesting to see how close it gets to the tone.
I do want to try this Hunter pickup pretty badly. I have the perfect guitar to put it in. Somebody give this pickup a review!
51501984
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Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter
When you say summer do you mean like around June or does summer start around April in Norway
My Hunter pickup is finished now. I won't be able to try it until this summer, but I'll post a nice photo of it when it arrives.
When you say summer do you mean like around June or does summer start around April in Norway
