Introducing the Jimi Hendrix Signature Strat Set

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well, if we're gonna talk about people profiting on dead celebrities with gear...... all i gonna say is that if the gear at least is good quality, sounds good and is well priced, then we really don't have much to complain about...
 
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IMO Seymour Duncan has produced some of the finest pickups ever made. Deserving of great respect for the man and the company he created.
It saddens me to see this capitalizing on Mr.Hendrix's name. It is pure greed and capitalism in a form of very poor taste. These pickups have no relation to the almost miraculous Hendrix musical legacy. They are just another flavor of Strat pickups. Why Carter-Duncan company lowers themselves like this when there is no need is bewildering.
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"Like Jimi’s music, the Jimi Hendrix Signature Strat Set pickups have their roots in the traditional but with an eye on the future. Each is custom wound for a richer, melodic tone. The bridge model has an aggressive attack that cuts through while staying true to his iconic lead tone. The neck pickup sounds thick and full and is great for chord work, bluesy melodies, double-stops and Jimi’s signature hybrid chord/melody style. And in the in-between positions there’s plenty of that classic Strat ‘quack.’"

How can they make a statement that the pickup set is like Mr. Hendrix's music and tone and style?
Way out of line. Calling a signature set sounds like Mr. Hendrix somehow participated in the development. He was likely the inspiration used for the development and it should be phrased in those terms.
This should be retracted and rewritten, it is almost blasphemous (using the term in a non religious context).

Not to make a criticism without a recommendation here is my meager/amateur attempt at more proper wording:
Jimi Hendrix inspired Strat set
Seymour Duncan did so and so....
the Jimi Hendrix inspired Strat Set pickups have their roots in the traditional but with an eye on the future. Each is custom wound for a richer, melodic tone. The bridge model has an aggressive attack that cuts through while producing a lead tone that has it basis in some of Jimi Hendrix's more familiar lead tones. The neck pickup sounds thick and full and is great for chord work, bluesy melodies, double-stops that you will recognize as Hendrix inspired. And in the in-between positions there’s plenty of that classic Strat ‘quack.’" - ONLY IF IT IS TRUE! -

I had not noticed before but on the flyer they even manage to defile the Christmas holiday spirit by peddling their product under that guise. The flyers look like something K-Mart would issue in a mass mailing, not something from the company Mr. Duncan envisioned. Surprisingly they did not put Jimi Hendrix in a Santa Clause suit.

But hey, hold on a minute...maybe Mr. Duncan bumped into Michael Bloomfield and they will do a Signature set using his name. I wonder how they get dead guys signatures.

Isn't it sort of legal fraud to put Jimi Hendrix's signature on pickups, even with the estate buying into the whole thing? It just seems to me that Mr. Hendrix using some of Mr. Duncan's pickups for one show and part of another after his legendary music, tone and style had already been established (Electric Ladyland had been almost completed in March of 1968) is a bit of a stretch for a signature pickup.

In the quoted discussions between Mr.'s Duncan and Hendrix regarding tone , or more accurately getting unique sounds out of a guitar, pickups are not mentioned as far as I can tell. They talk about picking techniques, uses of volume and tone controls. Did Jimi Hendrix, in any of his interviews, ever talk specifically about pickups?

I think I have I've read that 60s Strats used .1 caps, the Jimi Hendrix Voodoo style pickguard uses .047...wonder why?

The bottom line:
The concept of recreating a set of pickups young Mr. Duncan wound for Jimi Hendrix and actually had them installed in his guitar and performed with by the master at Xavier University is a great one. It represents offering guitar enthusiasts the opportunity to load up a part of those magical days in musical history when a towering genius like Jimi Hendrix was reshaping music in an almost unprecedented fashion. Great idea New Product team!

Unfortunately it fell into the hands of a marketing group who had to take what was a brilliant idea and dirty it with purchased signatures, K-Mart like mass mailing fliers and copy that exaggerates to the point of ridiculousness.

Buy the pickups for what they are. Ignore the garbage that is being written about them by marketing.


Thought about these pickups a little more...they could be like sort of a time machine taking you back to a real 60s Strat. If they can do that then they will be On my to get list. Have to wait and see what the reports from the field are when they start coming in.
 
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Hey guys! I just wanted to let you know a little more information about how the Hendrix Signature came about and why we’re excited to be making it.

In 1968 Seymour met with and wound pickups for Jimi Hendrix when he came to perform at Xavier University in Cincinnati. Seymour presented Jimi with the hand-wound pickups he had made, which were then installed in Jimi's Strat. Before the performance, the two had a fairly extensive conversation about music and tone and took some pictures together. Meeting Jimi was obviously a big inspiration for Seymour, and I’m sure it motivated him to keep working on his passion.

Eight years after his meeting with Jimi, he founded Seymour Duncan Pickups. 2016 is our 40th anniversary as a company, so we’ve been looking through our archives for projects that reflect Seymour’s history of ingenuity and innovation. Of course, Seymour (being Seymour) kept a meticulous record of exactly how he wound those pickups for Jimi so many years ago, so it seemed like a natural choice for us.

The Hendrix Signature set is made exactly the same way that Seymour wound those original pickups for Jimi, with the exception of the reverse magnet stagger, which is designed to emulate Jimi’s use of right handed guitars ‘upside-down’. For those of you wondering about the differences between this set and the Psychedelic set, it’s my understanding that the Psychedelics are based on stock Fender pickups from the late sixties, whereas the Hendrix set is based on Seymour’s own design.

If you’re curious about Seymour’s meeting with Jimi, you can read more (and see the pictures Seymour took) at the following links:

http://www.guitarplayer.com/miscellaneous/1139/hendrix-at-70/22125

http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-many-guitars-of-jimi-hendrix.html
 
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Are there recordings or video of Jimi playing them?

Even better if it was a show where Jimi changed to other guitars as a source of reference to the possible difference.

Is there any info on where those original pickups ended up? Are they still in a guitar belonging to Jimi's estate?
 
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Are there recordings or video of Jimi playing them?

Even better if it was a show where Jimi changed to other guitars as a source of reference to the possible difference.

Is there any info on where those original pickups ended up? Are they still in a guitar belonging to Jimi's estate?

Great questions. Unfortunately as far as I know there aren't any recordings or videos of the performance, but I did find some pictures and a couple more articles and threads about it.

I'm not personally sure where the guitar is at this point. If I hear anything about it I will let you guys know!

Here's a picture from the show with the Strat in question:
https://cdn.smehost.net/jimihendrixcom-uslegacyprod/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/19680328.jpg

And here's another thread regarding the performance for those of you interested:
http://crosstowntorrents.org/archive/index.php/t-4453.html
 
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Great questions. Unfortunately as far as I know there aren't any recordings or videos of the performance, but I did find some pictures and a couple more articles and threads about it.

I'm not personally sure where the guitar is at this point. If I hear anything about it I will let you guys know!

Here's a picture from the show with the Strat in question:
https://cdn.smehost.net/jimihendrixcom-uslegacyprod/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/19680328.jpg

And here's another thread regarding the performance for those of you interested:
http://crosstowntorrents.org/archive/index.php/t-4453.html




Ah! So the pickups were installed in that Strat for that show?
 
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Isn't it sort of legal fraud to put Jimi Hendrix's signature on pickups, even with the estate buying into the whole thing? It just seems to me that Mr. Hendrix using some of Mr. Duncan's pickups for one show and part of another after his legendary music, tone and style had already been established (Electric Ladyland had been almost completed in March of 1968) is a bit of a stretch for a signature pickup.

Nope. Or at least not the "legal" kind; but the most diehard fans of Jimi might feel the same way you do.

The thing is, yeah; signature gear is not a magical device that can give you the tone you want. You might be tempted to buy a reverse headstock Fender with this pickguard on, or even buy the Hendrix "signature" Fender guitar that does the same thing as this pickguard but with the Fender trademark, string it with the Jimi Hendrix signature strings, and then plug it into the signature wah, the signature Fuzz Face, the signature octave fuzz, and a Marshall amp that you'll maintain until Marshall finally caves in and releases the Hendrix signature amp as well.

And you'll sound like you. And the tone you might get when striking a single open string will be 100% spot-on to how it sounded when Jimi struck that open string; but you'll still sound like you. And if you feel as inadequate about your playing and skill as yours truly, being surrounded by the Hendrix signature might only amplify your self-defeatism, as well as make your wallet feel a lot lighter.

But hey, maybe someone out there, after trying and not feeling OK with all the other options, will put this pickguard on his Warmoth DIY guitar and simply adore the results. And thus, the existence of this product will be justified. Do any of us need anything else?
 
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Nope. Or at least not the "legal" kind; but the most diehard fans of Jimi might feel the same way you do.

The thing is, yeah; signature gear is not a magical device that can give you the tone you want. You might be tempted to buy a reverse headstock Fender with this pickguard on, or even buy the Hendrix "signature" Fender guitar that does the same thing as this pickguard but with the Fender trademark, string it with the Jimi Hendrix signature strings, and then plug it into the signature wah, the signature Fuzz Face, the signature octave fuzz, and a Marshall amp that you'll maintain until Marshall finally caves in and releases the Hendrix signature amp as well.

And you'll sound like you. And the tone you might get when striking a single open string will be 100% spot-on to how it sounded when Jimi struck that open string; but you'll still sound like you. And if you feel as inadequate about your playing and skill as yours truly, being surrounded by the Hendrix signature might only amplify your self-defeatism, as well as make your wallet feel a lot lighter.

But hey, maybe someone out there, after trying and not feeling OK with all the other options, will put this pickguard on his Warmoth DIY guitar and simply adore the results. And thus, the existence of this product will be justified. Do any of us need anything else?

It was a limited edition, but Marshall released a Hendrix signature JTM-45/100 a few years ago.

+1 otherwise.

I don't know how many have played a vintage-style Strat though that signal chain, but I found it particularly unforgiving.
 
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Cool to know.

Then it really would be awesome if there were any sound or video from that show that might help have a basic A/B comparison.

it would be awesome but i doubt there would be video from that long ago
 
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Frankly, I think it's in poor taste to have a the actual signature of a guy, who's been dead for forty six years, on a brand new product. Noticeably missing from the marketing copy is any assurance that a) these pickups are at all similar to the ones Hendrix demo'd that day, or b) whether or not Hendrix even liked the pickups.

According to the story told in this URL provided by Riley http://www.guitarplayer.com/miscellaneous/1139/hendrix-at-70/22125 , Hendrix also tried out a Goya hollowbody and promptly smashed it into some speakers, so it's sounds like this was a product solicitation type of situation. A photograph in Hendrix's company even shows Seymour dressed in a suit and tie. He says that Hendrix gave him a variety of Strat parts in turn, including some pickups, so it sounds to me like he had a revolving door of guitar parts.

So we don't know what Hendrix thought of the pickups, or if these pickups are even especially similar to the ones Hendrix demo'd, and yet they have his signature on the covers. That would be like if someone hit you with a stick, saved it, and then fifty years later, said it was your favorite stick.

What did Hendrix think about pickups in general?

http://www.guitarworld.com/features...rixs-guitar-setup-interview-roger-mayer/11678
"When I was working for the government, we had access to certain kinds of equipment. We were encouraged to have a hobby, so I went through all the different number of turns you could have on a pickup very quickly, right from square one. I wound up a whole range of pickups.

"Basically, what became very apparent with pickups is exactly what I thought before we started: They really don't make much difference! I would say they're one of the most vastly overrated parts of the guitar itself. If you understand electronics, you understand that as the inductance of the pickup increases—that is, as the number of turns on the pickup increases—all that happens is you get a larger output, and you effectively get less high-frequency response due to the fact that the inductance of the pickups rises. It's a trade-off.

"And after making several experiments, which probably covered all the number of pickup turns that are available now, I came to the conclusion that Leo probably had it about right! There wasn't much to be gained by deviating from the 7,000 turns or so on a regular pickup."

The fact that Seymour Duncan Co. promotes pickups when Hendrix was firmly in the "stock pickup" camp, on top of the fact that he's long dead, makes this about as grotesque a display of legacy exploitation as you could ask for. The "Leo probably had it about right!" line is an especially damning remark, it suggest that perhaps a certain someone failed to impress.

Here's a TL;DR in pictures:



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"What did Hendrix think about pickups in general?" We will never know. Your quote is what Roger Mayer thought about pickups.

What we do know is that Seymour Duncan wound some pickups and they were installed in the guitar that Jimi Hendrix used for one show and part of another.

The specs of those pickups were retained and have been recreated. Agreed the marketing angle of this stinks to high heaven. However, I believe that the pickups themselves deserve to be evaluated on their own merits.
 
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Hendrix products are the Porsche Cayenne of the guitar world; a volume product with mass appeal. I hope Duncan makes a ton off of them, so they put the money back into producing the things "we" really want. And if they perform well and make people happy, all the better.
 
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If it helps put this in context, I wrote that article several years before I had anything to do with SD, and Guitar World likes to re-run it from time to time. I've kept in touch with Roger in the six years or so since that interview was done, and we have since spoken about that day and he remembers meeting Seymour and installing the pickups for Jimi.

I'm really excited about these pickups because they tell a story of Seymour's passion for tone even back then, and they represent a very early glimpse into the kinds of things he was doing with Strat pickups at the time. Plus the story of how kind Jimi was to Seymour that day obviously made a strong impression on him, as you'll see from the booklet that comes with the pickups, and that's something that Seymour has carried with him in the way he does things even to this day.
 
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I think the fact that these are based on actual pickups that Seymour made for the actual Jimi Hendrix, that he actually used, is enough for me. There is enough of a connection there as well as a great story to make it interesting. As far as the signature, it is the brand of the Jimi Hendrix estate. It appears on everything they have a part of.
 
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I haven't seen that stated for fact.

Just to clarify, the Hendrix signature set will be made to the exact specs of the pickups that Seymour gave to Jimi (with the exception of the reverse magnet stagger).

Seymour has always kept meticulous notes about everything he makes, even from the very early days.
 
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