Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

[Sirion]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I'm sure there are some advantages, and it works both ways the same way that theory can never teach you good vibrato or bending notes right ..you can't get that from a book.

Nobody who is arguing that one shouldn't be working on vibrato or bends, or that these are best learnt from a book. You are always free to choose whether you want to learn theory is not, but this is a massive strawman. I am quite certain you will find zero people here advocating working on theory to the exclusion of ear training (though one might argue to what extent bending and vibrato are questions of ear or motorics).

 

[Gtrjunior]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Knock it off, ok?

99% of the rock players I know don't 'know' what they do, although they may be great players. But none of them can arrange for other instruments, or otherwise be an effective and original band leader.

No problem, Dave. I’ll let this go.

But just so we all know, this thread was completely unnecessary. This was discussed in the thread you shut down yesterday. Phantasmagoria simply started this thread for controversy.

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

/endthread

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I'm sure there are some advantages, and it works both ways the same way that theory can never teach you good vibrato or bending notes right ..you can't get that from a book.

Not saying it's bad..just that I'm not interested at all. If I were to spend time learning anything at this stage it would more likely be something I consider useful like the in's and outs of recording. It's as comprehensive & (to me) far more useful in a practical sense though unfortunately as uninteresting to me ..now that I actually regret :laugh2:

Well yeah.

You can't learn how to physically play an instrument without the instrument in your hand. Vibrato, bending, the correct amount of fretting pressure, where on the strings to pick to get a different timbre, how to do pinch harmonics, barring a string, alternate picking, playing slide, hybrid picking, legato, tapping, use of a whammy bar . . . these are all very important and completely unrelated to theory. They're technique. Technique is about playing a note the right way, Theory is more about finding the right note to play.

Theory or technique . . . they're both only as practical as you make 'em. It's not practical or useful learning pinch harmonics and bending if you only play mellow jazz. You'll probably never use a whammy bar in an acoustic trio. If you stay in your box your whole life, then **** it. But if you ever want to get out of your comfort zone learning more really matters.

 

[NecroPolo]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

"Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?"

No.

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I am under the impression that the OP is looking for confirmation to not attempt to improve his knowledge on music theory.

If playing metal is all you want to do in your music world, the answer is NO. End of story.

Honestly I am not really sure the purpose of this thread.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

"Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?"

No.

Simple & straightforward. I like that :bigthumb:

 

[NecroPolo]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Simple & straightforward. I like that :bigthumb:

I'm a simple guy. I use simple words

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

What's even more interesting is how the OP's signature contradicts his belief...lol.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I am under the impression that the OP is looking for confirmation to not attempt to improve his knowledge on music theory.

If playing metal is all you want to do in your music world, the answer is NO. End of story.

Honestly I am not really sure the purpose of this thread.

The purpose is as simple as the universal answer to the question in the OP. I think Necropolo nailed it

I'm not interested in Jazz or classical & I'm not interested in learning any more than the basic theory I already know. It's not a matter of pride for me, but guess what ...it's not a matter of shame or regret either. None whatsover [/U, ]so if anyone finds that tough to digest ..too bad, learn to live with it Don't see the slightest reason why what I'm interested or not interested in doing has caused indignation & butthurt to people like maestro gtrjunior up (yeah, I've heard him play too :lmao

So yeah..just wanted to clear that up. I think we're all agreed here. The simple answer is NO

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

What's even more interesting is how the OP's signature contradicts his belief...lol.

I'm talking guitar playing...pretty sure yngwie meant that too

And if you mean Rodney gene's quote up there..there's context to it. He said that when some other guys were taking a dig at my playing a couple years ago..(yeah, it's nothing new) "D ...and I'm pretty sure he meant 'playing' instead of 'tone' ' (cuz that was the context in which he posted the comment), but was too nice to say so..

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Oh it's not at all tough for me to digest. Like I've said a million f'n times in this forum, "being stupid is everyone's prerogative". I can't stop people from being ignorant.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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[Phantasmagoria]

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Well too bad you're missing the irony in that fave statement of your's :lmao:, but then as you say being stupid is everyone's perogative. And the only one you can really stop being that way is yourself..so yeah, time to get going with that maybe..

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Oh it's not at all tough for me to digest. Like I've said a million f'n times in this forum, "being stupid is everyone's prerogative". I can't stop people from being ignorant.

Well too bad you're missing the irony in that fave statement of your's :lmao:, but then as you say being stupid is everyone's perogative. And the only one you can really stop being that way is yourself..so yeah, time to get going with that maybe..

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I don't know, but in relation to Yngwie's quote, doesn't knowing less mean impeding your guitar playing?

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Oh don't worry about me, I don't even play metal guitar. Too stupid to even concoct a metal solo...lol.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

Can't help it brother ..it's my warm heart...

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Is advanced music theory really required at all for rock/metal guitar?

I think the above videos answer the question on whether or not theory is necessary.