Is Rock Guitar Dead?

[aleclee]

Re: Is Rock Guitar Dead?

it's not like any other genres are innovating either... look at rap and country and... list goes on

Actually, what's categorized as country sounds a heckuvalot different than it did 20 years ago. A lot of those changes have been fairly derivative of other genres but it has been evolving or at least changing.

 

[danglybanger]

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you're right in retrospect. country has turned into pop.

slade

 

[51501984]

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I agree that Slash is not revolutionary. But he did some remarkable things:
1) Inspired legions of people to not only start playing guitar, but he singlehandedly brought the Les Paul back from the dead.

2) Wrote some of the best rock lead guitar lines in the last 20 years that not only resonated with rockers and guitarists, but crossed over to the masses and contributed to tens of millions of GNR records being sold.

Personally, I think Dave Navarro had the best chance of being the next rock god guitarist. But now he's too busy shagging Carmen Electra to bother writing amazing guitar.

Don`t get me wrong , I think Navarro is a great player but as far the next rock guitar god I don`t think so. I haven`t listened to Janes Addiction in years but could someone point me to a few songs to change my mind.

 

[LesStrat]

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Actually, in case you have been living in a box in the alley off of main street and haven't heard, I'm rather fond of this guy's playing.

 

[Benjy_26]

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You guys are worrying too much over this. I play 5 times a month, 50% originals, and have a blast doing it.



I think rock guitar is doing just fine, thank you. :burnout:

 

[Pecan]

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Slash is an excellant guitarist, but he didn't go about creating new genres. And if you take a look at todays genres, and todays audiances, I think it be impossible for anyone to actualy
(A) create a new genre that isn't derived from another, or fused
and (B) Actualy get the music buyers to get of their crappy pop they were brought up on and listen to something decent.
Rock guitar isn't dead its just slowly evolving still, its fuseing with other genres creating newer feelings. Secondly whoever said hip hop and rap will kill it for good was wrong completly, Hip hip and rap is dissapearing at a rate a lot faster then rock, in fact in my opinion emo (with the help of a few other genres) will finish rap of within the next few years. Emo and screamo and even a little punk are becoming increasingly popular. I myself hate all 3 of the genres they do however have guitar, and its pretty technical. Look at some Emo solos, the effects and techniques used on them are quite advanced. i hate the genre, and i'd prefer heavy rock but guitar isn't dead for one reason. Emo will keep it alive. Even if its a mere shadow of what guitar once was, one day real guitar will come back. Look when hair metal was around, lol. Things have highs and lows. Oh and emo is very original, even though its a branch of hardcore punk (not talkin about pop emo) its now evolved more then any other genre in the last 10 years.

 

[Mephis]

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After listening to a few Malmsteen songs and a few Vai songs, i think innovation in the guitar world is probably at its peak.

Vai is an unbelieveable player, hes turned guitar playing into an extreme sport .

 

[danglybanger]

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Rap's nowhere near dead and I view it as an extension of soul and funk anyway really... though I prefer soul and funk.

No one genre is going to overtake another... it's not like a race, where there's only going to be one genre left.

Emo/Screamo=blips on the musical map that I thought already disappeared and merged with the rest of all the crap that people listen to these days

slade

 

[Pecan]

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nah, unfortunatly. of course no genre can ever die out completly rap isn't as popular as it once was. and by the way, Emo is probably one of the fastest growing genres around today. I was at a local festival just a few weeks ago, 80% of the bands were emo, i was kicking myself laughing cause my friend was practicly crying. And look at the top 50, emo isn't the most popular genre rite now, but its the fastest growing.
'nuf said

 

[danglybanger]

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Emo has fad written all over it. Just like garage rock, "indie" rock, and all the other "crazes" that have come and gone over a span of less than 5 years.

It is rock however. Rock will continue. Emo will disappear. It's influence will remain perhaps, but Emo is for trendhoppers. Not music fans. They will jump on the next trend that arrives whatever it will be

emo will lose its following

What makes you think rap isn't as popular as it once was? turn on the tv lately?

slade

 

[ericmeyer4]

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I dont know how many people will agree with me on this but IMHO John Mayer will probably be the next one viewed as a "guitar god." Laugh if you want but I can see it happening. First he is a great player and second he has a songs that are on the radio and people know them. If he starts putting more guitar into those songs he could be the one that makes people want to play guitar. It might be girls but never the less he is still making people want to play. Plus I was watching an interview with him and his next album is suppose to have "lots of guitars" so I hope he comes through with that.

 

[danglybanger]

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As for guitar heroes, I'm always surprised by the following Tom Morrelo seems to garner... especially since I don't particularly like him. I don't dislike him though...

slade

 

[Pecan]

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emo will of course is a trend, and will eventualy die out. same said with modern rap. they r both crazes that will die out. proper rap and hip hop like MC hammer and run DMC wont die out, but rite now, eninem and nelly etc. will. do you really think in 20 years time people are gonna go, nelly was such a rap god, they should make a documentary about him. And just for the record the sooner emo dies and good old classic metal and heavy rock take its place the better.

 

[danglybanger]

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Rap hasn't proven to be a trend... merely subgroups like "gangsta" and "crunk" and whatnot. Rap has been around in the mainstream for a while.

Yes, I think society does idolize rappers. They will be remembered. Society remembers far less "significant" people.

emo will probably get replaced with another stupid trend. I'd rather see innovation personally than a return to classic metal... there's already enough good classic metal.

slade

 

[viewaskew2k5]

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In My opinion, tom morelo and the guitarist from the pixies (not frank black ) are differnt to alot others. Not Tom in Audio Slave though, i can hear alot of Chris Cornell Influencing the lead

 

[jonnymangia]

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I think a good test to use would be if you can tell a certain guitarist just by listening to a few notes. That will show at least how unique they are. You can tell EVH's brown sound after a few secs. Same goes for Morello. No one sounds like him. All these metal guys sounds the same to me. Dimebag and Zakk were the last metal guys sound unique, IMHO.

As for Dave Navarro, I would pick up "Nothing's Shocking" and listen to not only some ripping technique (his solo at the end of "Ocean Size" is incendiary) but the amazing shades that he creates. He is very atmospheric, which makes sense b/c he was very influenced by Led Zep and bands like the Cure, Bahaus and Love and Rockets. He was one of the first players that I can recall who merged blues/rock with the post punk thing. Then he really took off with the album "Ritual de Lo Habitual". The guitar solo on "Three Days" is simply epic.

 

[viewaskew2k5]

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actually,n ow i think about, robert smith of the cure is a differnt player. I mean he isnt a 'great' player, but you always know when its a cure song when you hear one. The stair way step notes, the half assed solo's that are actually rythem and , melody. Every so often they will rip out an awesome guitar drivin song though ( last one i remember was TRAP from the wild mood swings albums)

 

[bungalowbill]

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Slash is an excellant guitarist, but he didn't go about creating new genres. And if you take a look at todays genres, and todays audiances, I think it be impossible for anyone to actualy
(A) create a new genre that isn't derived from another, or fused
and (B) Actualy get the music buyers to get of their crappy pop they were brought up on and listen to something decent.
Rock guitar isn't dead its just slowly evolving still, its fuseing with other genres creating newer feelings. Secondly whoever said hip hop and rap will kill it for good was wrong completly, Hip hip and rap is dissapearing at a rate a lot faster then rock, in fact in my opinion emo (with the help of a few other genres) will finish rap of within the next few years. Emo and screamo and even a little punk are becoming increasingly popular. I myself hate all 3 of the genres they do however have guitar, and its pretty technical. Look at some Emo solos, the effects and techniques used on them are quite advanced. i hate the genre, and i'd prefer heavy rock but guitar isn't dead for one reason. Emo will keep it alive. Even if its a mere shadow of what guitar once was, one day real guitar will come back. Look when hair metal was around, lol. Things have highs and lows. Oh and emo is very original, even though its a branch of hardcore punk (not talkin about pop emo) its now evolved more then any other genre in the last 10 years.

I never said Rock would die, I meant that it wouldn't be as popular. In the 1940's or '50s there was a Jazz or Blues club on almost every street......they are not there now. Rock got popular and put Jazz on the backburner and Rap/Hip Hop has done the same thing to Rock.

Jazz & Blues are still around, so is Rock, but it isn't as popular as it was. I bet Brittney Spears has sold more records than Aerosmith in the last 5 years....it is sad for us. There will always be good Rock music, as there still is good Jazz music, it just won't be top 40 or on MTV.

 

[nuntius]

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Man alive these topics are boring...

If you like rock guitar play and listen to rock guitar. Start a band that plays the style of rock you like..

There's plenty of material out. And if you went to enough local shows I garuntee you'd find bands you'll like. Just because it isn't on every advert and not every person on earth is talking about doesn't mean it doesn't exist...

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I find that most folks who have any argument of this flavor have mainly stopped evolving musically of their own volition as well as ceased to seek out any new music that's being made.

Music doesn't just up and start sucking one day. You just get old and aren't in the demographic to hear the good stuff and get mired in what you know and digging back through stuff that influenced artists that were influential to you.

Arguably some of the best guitar-based music is being made right now. The Metal scene is thriving and kicking butt and SO MANY of them are just fantastic beyond words...and without the rock star attitude...it's exciting to be able to watch them and NOT have to worry or know they're going to burnout.

Blues? Please....there's more fantastic players per square foot than there ever has been. Cats like Tommy Castro, Popa Chubby, Monster Mike Welch, Warren Haynes, Duke Robillard and Jonny Lang are getting stage time right along side the legends and holding their own.

Were living in an era of the amazing players without the BS we had to put up with in the 80's. Pick up some Opeth or Lamb Of God and tell me those cats don't smoke the players we grew up with 9 ways to Sunday. No egos, no goofiness, no fat, no attitude. Just pure unadultered evolution musically.

I definitely agree on the stopped evolving part.

 

[shredaholic]

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whatever new style of music does appear in the next 10 years, you can bet that there will be a ton of copycat bands - happens every time