I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
Interestingly enough I was at the local Gibson dealer (in Canada mind you) and their quite happy with their relationship. This is a really small store ...
We discussed Gibson's business practices and apparently the Canadian dealers don't have the same restrictions (although you're still not suposed to sell online or post images of your stock). Maybe this is some benefit of being run through a national distributor instead of from Gibson ... who knows. Luckily they've had a lot of luck with both quality and not a lot of pressure to meet sales.
Then again small outfit and picky customers
Interestingly enough I was at the local Gibson dealer (in Canada mind you) and their quite happy with their relationship. This is a really small store ...
We discussed Gibson's business practices and apparently the Canadian dealers don't have the same restrictions (although you're still not suposed to sell online or post images of your stock). Maybe this is some benefit of being run through a national distributor instead of from Gibson ... who knows. Luckily they've had a lot of luck with both quality and not a lot of pressure to meet sales.
Then again small outfit and picky customers
Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
FYI...
I was in a local Boutique shop today... I picked up Two Gibson Les Pauls that caught my eye.
One of them was an LP Standard with a flamed maple top finished in Root Beer color... it cost just over $3000. I would not pay that much for a highly irregular and disrupted flame.
The other one was a Le Paul Studio with a Sunburst finish and P-90s that cost $1700. Nice guitar... too bad the output jack and the selector switch were defective.
Just a first-hand account.
FYI...
I was in a local Boutique shop today... I picked up Two Gibson Les Pauls that caught my eye.
One of them was an LP Standard with a flamed maple top finished in Root Beer color... it cost just over $3000. I would not pay that much for a highly irregular and disrupted flame.
The other one was a Le Paul Studio with a Sunburst finish and P-90s that cost $1700. Nice guitar... too bad the output jack and the selector switch were defective.
Just a first-hand account.
LesStrat
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
That's what I was talking about. Their QC is horrible. I have NEVER seen a bad finish on a Parker. Maybe Ken let some get out of the shop that I didnt' see, but I doubt it.
I ordered my bass from AMS. Again, the Korean who made it did a FANTASTIC job. I'd put the finish on it against nearly all of the Gibson's I have seen for 3x the price.
That's what I was talking about. Their QC is horrible. I have NEVER seen a bad finish on a Parker. Maybe Ken let some get out of the shop that I didnt' see, but I doubt it.
I ordered my bass from AMS. Again, the Korean who made it did a FANTASTIC job. I'd put the finish on it against nearly all of the Gibson's I have seen for 3x the price.
Guitarist
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
I like your new ES-335 better than your friend's uber-flamed one. Looks better to me! And I bet it sounds great!
I say, don't forget what happened, but enjoy the guitar for what it's all about! The music babay, the music!
I like your new ES-335 better than your friend's uber-flamed one. Looks better to me! And I bet it sounds great!
I say, don't forget what happened, but enjoy the guitar for what it's all about! The music babay, the music!
TattooedCarrot
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
It is a nice guitar, and it plays/sounds great. But I want either all flame, or no flame. I can't stand the wanna-be disappearing partial flame, to me that looks cheap. One or the other.Guitarist said:
MikeRocker
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
Think about it - they forbid dealers from posting actual pictures of instruments. You have to ask yourself if you want to do business with and give money to a company like that. For me, the answer to that question is easy...
HELL NO!!!!!
I would assume it prevents potential customers from seeing the shoddy quality of the actual piece. That way, a site has to use Gibson's stock photos, and Gibson can cherry pick a beautiful specimen for each model, essentially decieving customers into thinking that that is what they will get. Just ask our buddy TC.XSSIVE said:
Think about it - they forbid dealers from posting actual pictures of instruments. You have to ask yourself if you want to do business with and give money to a company like that. For me, the answer to that question is easy...
HELL NO!!!!!
Hellion
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
I bought a new ES135 from them about 3 years ago. It showed up in nice condition, but the front pickup wouldn't turn on. Sigh....took it to my luthier and had them put the normal Dunlap 6100s on it that I require, and had them fix that as well. I've just gotten used to the fact that they're not terribly quality oriented. Even with the price (which I think is outrageous) I still think they're decent guitars that will increase in value over time. I totally understand your frustration, however....
I bought a new ES135 from them about 3 years ago. It showed up in nice condition, but the front pickup wouldn't turn on. Sigh....took it to my luthier and had them put the normal Dunlap 6100s on it that I require, and had them fix that as well. I've just gotten used to the fact that they're not terribly quality oriented. Even with the price (which I think is outrageous) I still think they're decent guitars that will increase in value over time. I totally understand your frustration, however....
Frantic_Rock
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
Oh wow. I didn't know dealers were forbidden from posting actual guitar photos. That's pretty crazy. I'll probably never buy a Gibson. I just don't understand what's the point of playing the same guitar that millions of others play... I'd just experiment with custom orders. Say you can get a 10 star flame top from warmoth and a bolt on rosewood neck. Even if you get the nicest possible stuff, it will still turn up to be the same cost as say a new Standard. If I had the money i'd just build myself atleast 2 more heritages, and at least 2 warmoths. These guitars would be who I AM.
MikeRocker said:
Oh wow. I didn't know dealers were forbidden from posting actual guitar photos. That's pretty crazy. I'll probably never buy a Gibson. I just don't understand what's the point of playing the same guitar that millions of others play... I'd just experiment with custom orders. Say you can get a 10 star flame top from warmoth and a bolt on rosewood neck. Even if you get the nicest possible stuff, it will still turn up to be the same cost as say a new Standard. If I had the money i'd just build myself atleast 2 more heritages, and at least 2 warmoths. These guitars would be who I AM.
ledzepp29
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Re: I've always defended Gibson QC, now I got burned - Twice
no and it doesn't cost "$2,500" either. Rediculously over priced though.TheJangus said:
well, gibson, of course, isnt saying. but I think the reason was pure and simple that they wanted their small dealers to drop gibson, they couldn't legally drop the dealers them for no reason, so they made that stupid rule so that the dealers wouldn't be able to meet the sales quota or just to piss off the dealers enough to make them drop gibson. And apparently they want to lose all their small dealers so GC and MF are the only places to get gibsons, and so they can slack on quality.MikeRocker said:
