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Sykes had a natural finished dual humbucker Charvel Strat, with a Floyd.

This one was used for the whammybar work on 1987, amongst other the solo to Still Of The Night, Children Of The Night and Looking For Love. It had a JB and a Jazz pickup and quite simply sounded amazing (What doesent in the hands of Mr. Sykes ;))...


You might have tested it alot..... But I have a friend who might disagree with you.... And before you even start,this was 1990 and I have played the actual guitar you see in the video (The yellow Kramer) and incredibly enough it had a JB in it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaeD4CFzK4

About Jeff Beck, if you honestly claim to play 80s metal, you've been influenced by Jeff, whether you like it or not. Sorry to break it to you.

Can you please show me a shred pickup btw? I have always wanted a pickup with a maculator in it.

And news flash... A DD is just a JB with a oversized ceramic magnet. I'll bet you 5 dollars, that even though you find Warren DeMartinis playing acceptable, he can probably still outplay you, your wife, your dog hell even your entire state. When you make such big mouthed statements, please back it up with clips. I personally listen to pretty much all 80s metal out there and probably know of players you never heard off, and gee wiz.. I have never heard of you. You must have such picky and perfect playing/tone that its too good for the rest of us? I mean come on, Jeff Beck aint good enough, DeMartini is a hack,

Oh and by the way... Timmons had a JB in one of his Ibanez guitars... Try again pal.

b1adefury --> Yes it is incompatible. As we all know, all pieces of wood are 100% identical and sound the same, so yes... The JB is not compatible with mahogany.
 
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Sykes had a natural finished dual humbucker Charvel Strat, with a Floyd.

This one was used for the whammybar work on 1987, amongst other the solo to Still Of The Night, Children Of The Night and Looking For Love. It had a JB and a Jazz pickup and quite simply sounded amazing (What doesent in the hands of Mr. Sykes ;))...


You might have tested it alot..... But I have a friend who might disagree with you.... And before you even start,this was 1990 and I have played the actual guitar you see in the video (The yellow Kramer) and incredibly enough it had a JB in it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaeD4CFzK4

About Jeff Beck, if you honestly claim to play 80s metal, you've been influenced by Jeff, whether you like it or not. Sorry to break it to you.

Can you please show me a shred pickup btw? I have always wanted a pickup with a maculator in it.

And news flash... A DD is just a JB with a oversized ceramic magnet. I'll bet you 5 dollars, that even though you find Warren DeMartinis playing acceptable, he can probably still outplay you, your wife, your dog hell even your entire state. When you make such big mouthed statements, please back it up with clips. I personally listen to pretty much all 80s metal out there and probably know of players you never heard off, and gee wiz.. I have never heard of you. You must have such picky and perfect playing/tone that its too good for the rest of us? I mean come on, Jeff Beck aint good enough, DeMartini is a hack,

Oh and by the way... Timmons had a JB in one of his Ibanez guitars... Try again pal.

b1adefury --> Yes it is incompatible. As we all know, all pieces of wood are 100% identical and sound the same, so yes... The JB is not compatible with mahogany.

If one doesn't know who Jeff Beck is then they are a poser....lol. just a little rib Marshall Abuser.

I really like Jeff Beck's tribute to Manic Depression (by Jimi)...god he plays so awesome...love every note.

Jeff Beck was considered for this year's R n Roll Hall of Fame...why was he considered...because he is an f'ing genius on guitar. Unfortunately for him (don't really know if he cares but for fans) he also had to contend with Metallica..and with Death Magnetic being what it is...he didn't really have a chance...it's hard to be win when you are just a guitar player going up against a band that has sold a zillion records and managed to make a come back by....uhmmmm..getting Rick Rubin (much like the Ted Templmen comment on the EVH thread) come back and say....hey just play like you used to. lol.
 
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First, thanx for the information on Sykes. Will listen to my Whitesnake CD again. Never really liked Sykes tone anyways, I'm very picky when it comes to tone.

Second, do you really think you are introducing new concepts to me by saying Timmons had a JB and the Distortion is a JB with a ceramic magnet ? lol ! Common..those are common factoids everyone knows !

Then you seem disturbed by the fact that I say DeMartini is not one of my favorite shredder? Dude, it's my preference...why do you feel obliged to fight back at me on a "taste" thing ?

Then you ask me to name a shred pickup? Here are some of em' :

Duncan Full Shred
Dimarzio PAF-Pro
Dimarzio Tone-Zone
Dimarzio Evolution

Then you say I've been influenced by Beck? Who cares..? I'm influenced by Lynch who was influenced by Beck, but again...who cares ? History is NOT my thing.

Also, here in Canada, we don't have "states" but "provinces"....just FYI. And here in my province, we have MUCH better players than DeMartini IMO. If you are not willing to believe this is possible, then you are the only one to blame. DeMartini is not the end of all shred guitar playing, not at all. He's pretty good, but I like other shredders more.

And finally, when someone resorts to the argument of asking me to post some clips, I cringe. It's like saying "I like this wine better than this one" and the other dude saying "bring your own wine to see if you can do better". just a desperate argument on your part that shows you can't accept strong opinions like mine.



Sykes had a natural finished dual humbucker Charvel Strat, with a Floyd.

This one was used for the whammybar work on 1987, amongst other the solo to Still Of The Night, Children Of The Night and Looking For Love. It had a JB and a Jazz pickup and quite simply sounded amazing (What doesent in the hands of Mr. Sykes ;))...


You might have tested it alot..... But I have a friend who might disagree with you.... And before you even start,this was 1990 and I have played the actual guitar you see in the video (The yellow Kramer) and incredibly enough it had a JB in it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaeD4CFzK4

About Jeff Beck, if you honestly claim to play 80s metal, you've been influenced by Jeff, whether you like it or not. Sorry to break it to you.

Can you please show me a shred pickup btw? I have always wanted a pickup with a maculator in it.

And news flash... A DD is just a JB with a oversized ceramic magnet. I'll bet you 5 dollars, that even though you find Warren DeMartinis playing acceptable, he can probably still outplay you, your wife, your dog hell even your entire state. When you make such big mouthed statements, please back it up with clips. I personally listen to pretty much all 80s metal out there and probably know of players you never heard off, and gee wiz.. I have never heard of you. You must have such picky and perfect playing/tone that its too good for the rest of us? I mean come on, Jeff Beck aint good enough, DeMartini is a hack,

Oh and by the way... Timmons had a JB in one of his Ibanez guitars... Try again pal.

b1adefury --> Yes it is incompatible. As we all know, all pieces of wood are 100% identical and sound the same, so yes... The JB is not compatible with mahogany.
 
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I don't care for thump or rhythm tones at all, so the Double Whammy might be perfect for me and for my shreddish applications.

About the credibility comment, show me a video where Cantrell shreds 80's style and I'll retract my statement.

Bye bye credibility.

I think all we agree on is that the double whammy is a great pickup for 80s metal. But it's nothing but mids, there's little highend and ABSOLUTELY NO BASS AT ALL. To hell with ever getting palm mutes to sound right, or getting any cab thump because it's not going to happen.
 
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Craig Goldy? Got a video of him shredding 80's style?

About Gary Moore, he's pretty good I agree...excellent indeed.

And, I read your point, there's more to the 80s than the JB. I agree and appreciate that. But, still? Isn't Gary Moore a serious player? Not Craig Goldy either? I could go on to claim that quite a few of the others on the list is underrated as guitarists, but that's a whole different debate there's no need to take here. :)
 
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And finally, when someone resorts to the argument of asking me to post some clips, I cringe. It's like saying "I like this wine better than this one" and the other dude saying "bring your own wine to see if you can do better". just a desperate argument on your part that shows you can't accept strong opinions like mine.

An opinion is like an a$$hole, everybody has one, and most of 'em stink.
The stronger the opinion and the more forcefully it is espoused, the more it smells.:fart:
 
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I don't care for thump or rhythm tones at all, so the Double Whammy might be perfect for me and for my shreddish applications.

I hope you have one helluva rhythm guitarist and one very entertaining singer in your band. Cause you sure ain't getting much playing time if you only care about or play leads.
 
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I always love to hear people say that the JB doesn't sound good in a Les Paul. For years, before I put the P-Rails in, the JB was my number one go to pickup for my Les Pauls. The JB has a certain "grind" under high gain that I find very cool. And it just sings at leads. What's not to love?

I also love when people say that the JB isn't tight enough to do metal. Seems tight enough for me. Below is a song that was tracked with a JB. It's a rough mix, but you can really hear the pickup shine during the solo section


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=595614&songID=4566888
 
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so the JB is good for the big hair stuff RATT, Winger). But what if I wanted to go a little harder also (Motley Crue, Skid Row, W.A.S.P.)? would the DD cover the big hair and the harder stuff? or would the JB be good for both? or should i just look into a different pickup all together? like the '59 or something

I heard mick mars used to use a '59 in his baretta's in the 80's........
 
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why don'cha go half 'n' half, get the jb, and stick a standard sized ceramic in there(distortion lite) if you want to cover most of the hard 80s metal bases.
 
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so the JB is good for the big hair stuff RATT, Winger). But what if I wanted to go a little harder also (Motley Crue, Skid Row, W.A.S.P.)? would the DD cover the big hair and the harder stuff? or would the JB be good for both? or should i just look into a different pickup all together? like the '59 or something

I heard mick mars used to use a '59 in his baretta's in the 80's........

JB or DD would be both good, man. I have guitars with Fullshred, JBs and what not... All are in that ballpark :)
 
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I don't care for thump or rhythm tones at all, so the Double Whammy might be perfect for me and for my shreddish applications.

About the credibility comment, show me a video where Cantrell shreds 80's style and I'll retract my statement.

You think being able to shred is the only thing that makes someone a decent guitarist?

Much less, shred 80s style?


I think you've completely lost sight of the bigger picture. And yea, the double whammy is pretty much only good for shredding, it's going to be clear and ridiculously thick at the same time. It's a paf pro with slightly more output and EXTREMELY pushed mids.
 
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