Dirtbagg
New member
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
BloodRose I will be shipping it out tomorrow. I'll PM you the tracking number.
BloodRose I will be shipping it out tomorrow. I'll PM you the tracking number.
Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
- Thread starter Mr 9finger
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ex-250
Riffologist Extraordinaire
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I don't believe theres anyone else for the vintage block. Maybe shoot Ascension a PM. He was originally going to get it after me, but was having problems with the guitar he would put it in so he dropped out. Maybe things have improved by now.
And if not...enjoy the block till the block lotto comes around. It'll be yours or mine. We have the best odds of all the blocks.
I don't believe theres anyone else for the vintage block. Maybe shoot Ascension a PM. He was originally going to get it after me, but was having problems with the guitar he would put it in so he dropped out. Maybe things have improved by now.
And if not...enjoy the block till the block lotto comes around. It'll be yours or mine. We have the best odds of all the blocks.
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Rick: These are the best!
https://super-vee.com/index.html
Sorry - but facts are facts!
Rick: These are the best!
https://super-vee.com/index.html
Sorry - but facts are facts!
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Block sent to King Izzo!
Block sent to King Izzo!
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Ready to pass it on, just need Luke Duke's info.
Ready to pass it on, just need Luke Duke's info.
killerguitar
New member
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Well, Stratman... Since we are talking "facts" - what is the Super Vee's trem block made of? What properties make it "the best"? Please do tell. Just saying something is fact without any detailed information and proven results to back that up certainly seems to be more like an opinion of yours than fact... Or just :spam:
Well, Stratman... Since we are talking "facts" - what is the Super Vee's trem block made of? What properties make it "the best"? Please do tell. Just saying something is fact without any detailed information and proven results to back that up certainly seems to be more like an opinion of yours than fact... Or just :spam:
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Apples to oranges, eh?
Come on now... Get that crap and those "facts" outta here.
Apples to oranges, eh?
Come on now... Get that crap and those "facts" outta here.
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Rick:
You are using SD forum to promote your trem block, but do want to compare fairly other manufacturer's products.
The SuperVee's material does not matter, it is the tone and sustain that you get when installed in a guitar that matters. All else is pure marketing.
I have tried a number of manufacturer's bridges and have had brass blocks machined and installed in my bridge setups.
Brass blocks are difficult too machine, but just like the brass nuts of the late 70's and early 80's - brass make the tone different, not better or worse.
And for the record, the brass nut and trem block that I have machined back in 1979 came from a church bell that was left from an old church that was destroyed in a fire. The machine shop foreman was the church's deacon and a fellow band member.
So, I have tried bell brass trem blocks and will stay with what sounds best to the ears of my fellow band members and audience.
BTW - Using another company's forum to marker your company's products is tacky, don't you think!
I have not even started on Blade runner with is also very great and uses a proprietary block with excellent tone and sustain and is installed on another guitar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=b2p0l0RZkkw
Rick:
You are using SD forum to promote your trem block, but do want to compare fairly other manufacturer's products.
The SuperVee's material does not matter, it is the tone and sustain that you get when installed in a guitar that matters. All else is pure marketing.
I have tried a number of manufacturer's bridges and have had brass blocks machined and installed in my bridge setups.
Brass blocks are difficult too machine, but just like the brass nuts of the late 70's and early 80's - brass make the tone different, not better or worse.
And for the record, the brass nut and trem block that I have machined back in 1979 came from a church bell that was left from an old church that was destroyed in a fire. The machine shop foreman was the church's deacon and a fellow band member.
So, I have tried bell brass trem blocks and will stay with what sounds best to the ears of my fellow band members and audience.
BTW - Using another company's forum to marker your company's products is tacky, don't you think!
I have not even started on Blade runner with is also very great and uses a proprietary block with excellent tone and sustain and is installed on another guitar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=b2p0l0RZkkw
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Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fHr8g3AEs
Eric Johnson's opinion counts! He agrees with my opinion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fHr8g3AEs
Eric Johnson's opinion counts! He agrees with my opinion!
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Im not trying to get involved nor, flame this, um, dispute, but Id like to pose a question.
Isnt the Super Vee System a full trem system? If so, is it in the same category as a Block for a Trem? That would be more suitably compared to a full floyd and not just a part, correct?? I mean, Ive heard great things about the Super Vee system and would try one if I had a guitar for it. As far as just adding a block to a FLoyd, I was impressed with the KGC Block comparing it only to other blocks..
Im not trying to get involved nor, flame this, um, dispute, but Id like to pose a question.
Isnt the Super Vee System a full trem system? If so, is it in the same category as a Block for a Trem? That would be more suitably compared to a full floyd and not just a part, correct?? I mean, Ive heard great things about the Super Vee system and would try one if I had a guitar for it. As far as just adding a block to a FLoyd, I was impressed with the KGC Block comparing it only to other blocks..
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Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Good point!
I am considering trying a KGC Block with a BoogieRail setup.
http://www.boogierail.com/
My current BoggieRail uses a Callaham block on a vintage 1978 strat, so that would be an interesting comparison ...
Good point!
I am considering trying a KGC Block with a BoogieRail setup.
http://www.boogierail.com/
My current BoggieRail uses a Callaham block on a vintage 1978 strat, so that would be an interesting comparison ...
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killerguitar
New member
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Apparently you are not aware that it is the material as well as design that give you the tone and sustain...? If it is not the material that gives your bridge the tone and sustain - then what is it? Please explain...
Pot, meet kettle. Nice to meet you.
Apparently you are not aware that it is the material as well as design that give you the tone and sustain...? If it is not the material that gives your bridge the tone and sustain - then what is it? Please explain...
Pot, meet kettle. Nice to meet you.
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
Stratman - this thread is about the Killer Guitar Components block. This thread is not only about the KGC block, but also (and primarily) the Beta testing of the block. This thread is not about whether or not the KGC block is the best block in the world, it's about the testing of the blocks. This is not a thread promoting one brand above the other - it's a thread about testing KGC blocks in lots of different guitars.
Stratman - this thread is about the Killer Guitar Components block. This thread is not only about the KGC block, but also (and primarily) the Beta testing of the block. This thread is not about whether or not the KGC block is the best block in the world, it's about the testing of the blocks. This is not a thread promoting one brand above the other - it's a thread about testing KGC blocks in lots of different guitars.
Mr 9finger
Digitally Challenged
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I've not even had my first blasts of caffeine and nicotine yet, but......
Stratman, I think the title of this thread is "Killer Guitar Components BETA testing". I don't think that implies anything about coming in and grabbing your man parts while pounding your chest like an ape about another product. So you like other products....good for you. It doesn't mean they are better or worse than anything else.
Rick isn't really promoting anything here. There was another thread debating his products, he spoke up in defense of his, and I offered him a challenge to let some forum members try his products. Unlike most manufacturers, he stepped up to the plate. I don't see either of the companies you seem to think so highly of. Try and get them to step up to the plate and toss some of their hardware out there.
Also, I don't see anywhere in any of your posts that you've tried any of KGC's blocks. Therefore, Nobody can really hold your opinion objectively and you're really just coming off as a fanboy, which is fine as well, but this isn't the place to do so. Unless you can voice your opinion objectively because you have experience with KGC's products and can compare them to other similar parts that you've had experience with, then stuff it and take it on the arches pal. There's absolutely no need for you to be as rude and condescending as you've been. Did you rail the guys from Vpics and Gravity picks when they were giving their stuff away? If the Bladerunner and that other stuff is so great, then why don't you see if they're will to throw some of their units out there to the forum guys?
I've not even had my first blasts of caffeine and nicotine yet, but......
Stratman, I think the title of this thread is "Killer Guitar Components BETA testing". I don't think that implies anything about coming in and grabbing your man parts while pounding your chest like an ape about another product. So you like other products....good for you. It doesn't mean they are better or worse than anything else.
Rick isn't really promoting anything here. There was another thread debating his products, he spoke up in defense of his, and I offered him a challenge to let some forum members try his products. Unlike most manufacturers, he stepped up to the plate. I don't see either of the companies you seem to think so highly of. Try and get them to step up to the plate and toss some of their hardware out there.
Also, I don't see anywhere in any of your posts that you've tried any of KGC's blocks. Therefore, Nobody can really hold your opinion objectively and you're really just coming off as a fanboy, which is fine as well, but this isn't the place to do so. Unless you can voice your opinion objectively because you have experience with KGC's products and can compare them to other similar parts that you've had experience with, then stuff it and take it on the arches pal. There's absolutely no need for you to be as rude and condescending as you've been. Did you rail the guys from Vpics and Gravity picks when they were giving their stuff away? If the Bladerunner and that other stuff is so great, then why don't you see if they're will to throw some of their units out there to the forum guys?
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I do not agree with you - KGC is trying to sell their products on SD forum by what - a comparison of their products? For what purpose, you should be asking yourself!
I will stick with my comment that it is poor taste to use another company’s forum to advertise your products.
BTW - 9fingers, did you purchase a KGC product, or are you just brown-nosing to get a free one?
Suck it up - little man!
Is this what you are trying to say? Man parts indeed, jackass!
I do not agree with you - KGC is trying to sell their products on SD forum by what - a comparison of their products? For what purpose, you should be asking yourself!
I will stick with my comment that it is poor taste to use another company’s forum to advertise your products.
BTW - 9fingers, did you purchase a KGC product, or are you just brown-nosing to get a free one?
Suck it up - little man!
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I do in fact know metals. I am an active member of ASTM - American Society for Testing and Materials and work on several committees. You want to try questioning my knowledge on materials, foolish at best!
I do know how different components can influence the tonal character of an instrument and own a lot of equipment and have tested and use different pieces of equipment from several well know manufacturers.
You quote ‘Musical brass’, and state you have tested different materials. I wonder how many you actually tested before coming up with that claim?
I disagree with your practice of using Seymour Duncan's forum to brag about your product in an attempt to generate more business, it is a Seymour Duncan forum, not a KGC forum - your tactic is in poor taste.
Why not have your own and work on getting business on your own forum?
http://www.killerguitarcomponents.com/tone-chasers-forum
Think about it.
I do in fact know metals. I am an active member of ASTM - American Society for Testing and Materials and work on several committees. You want to try questioning my knowledge on materials, foolish at best!
I do know how different components can influence the tonal character of an instrument and own a lot of equipment and have tested and use different pieces of equipment from several well know manufacturers.
You quote ‘Musical brass’, and state you have tested different materials. I wonder how many you actually tested before coming up with that claim?
I disagree with your practice of using Seymour Duncan's forum to brag about your product in an attempt to generate more business, it is a Seymour Duncan forum, not a KGC forum - your tactic is in poor taste.
Why not have your own and work on getting business on your own forum?
http://www.killerguitarcomponents.com/tone-chasers-forum
Think about it.
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Mr 9finger
Digitally Challenged
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I'm not aware that I was getting anything out of this, nor have I asked for anything. I'm not even testing one of the blocks. I put the man up to a challenge, and since he accepted, I felt it was only right for me to over see it. Plain and simple. So suck that up - little man!
If letting people try his products and give them away is in poor taste, then every time another gear maker of any sort pops up in this forum, I better see you in there giving them some crap to. I didn't see you complaining about Gravity picks or Vpicks giving their stuff away. I don't see you complaining when some small guitar maker shows his stuff off here, so why do it here and now? You're just being an ass and I'm calling you on it. Take your crap else where.
I'm not aware that I was getting anything out of this, nor have I asked for anything. I'm not even testing one of the blocks. I put the man up to a challenge, and since he accepted, I felt it was only right for me to over see it. Plain and simple. So suck that up - little man!
If letting people try his products and give them away is in poor taste, then every time another gear maker of any sort pops up in this forum, I better see you in there giving them some crap to. I didn't see you complaining about Gravity picks or Vpicks giving their stuff away. I don't see you complaining when some small guitar maker shows his stuff off here, so why do it here and now? You're just being an ass and I'm calling you on it. Take your crap else where.
killerguitar
New member
Re: Killer Guitar Components Trem block BETA testing.
I have nothing to prove to you, Stratman. Our products speak for themselves - which is why, when challenged by 9finger, I offered to send out some of my blocks to users on this forum for them to try. All I asked in return was an honest opinion from the testers...is that such horrible business practice? Isn't that why SD has a section of their forum called "the guitar shop"? Is this whole forum supposed to be geared only towards SD products? If so, then why are you spamming threads with links to your products?
The bottom line is that we (KGC) make high-quality, effective upgrades for many guitars. We tested many different types of steel, brass, copper, titanium as well as some other metals and found this particular brass to give the most balanced tone with best sustain - no shrill, ear-piercing highs like many steel alloys - better mid/bass than any of the others we tested. Beyond that - it also sustained longer than any of the other metals.
The reason we feel our products are so great is not just the material. We have gone to great lengths to engineer the blocks and bridges we offer to sound, operate and look their best. If you are trying to make us look uninformed or uneducated when it comes to this stuff....check in with Harvard and MIT where my father (and engineer of our products) was a professional model-maker and prototype designer for many years. Our products are machined one at a time by him rather than mass produced in China like many others out there.
That being said...
Leave us alone and please go spread your negativity elsewhere. We offer different products that do different things. You are free to your opinion, but please don't spam our thread with so-called "fact" that is really nothing but your personal opinion. Thank You
I have nothing to prove to you, Stratman. Our products speak for themselves - which is why, when challenged by 9finger, I offered to send out some of my blocks to users on this forum for them to try. All I asked in return was an honest opinion from the testers...is that such horrible business practice? Isn't that why SD has a section of their forum called "the guitar shop"? Is this whole forum supposed to be geared only towards SD products? If so, then why are you spamming threads with links to your products?
The bottom line is that we (KGC) make high-quality, effective upgrades for many guitars. We tested many different types of steel, brass, copper, titanium as well as some other metals and found this particular brass to give the most balanced tone with best sustain - no shrill, ear-piercing highs like many steel alloys - better mid/bass than any of the others we tested. Beyond that - it also sustained longer than any of the other metals.
The reason we feel our products are so great is not just the material. We have gone to great lengths to engineer the blocks and bridges we offer to sound, operate and look their best. If you are trying to make us look uninformed or uneducated when it comes to this stuff....check in with Harvard and MIT where my father (and engineer of our products) was a professional model-maker and prototype designer for many years. Our products are machined one at a time by him rather than mass produced in China like many others out there.
That being said...
Leave us alone and please go spread your negativity elsewhere. We offer different products that do different things. You are free to your opinion, but please don't spam our thread with so-called "fact" that is really nothing but your personal opinion. Thank You
