Led Zeppelin

[midnite_man]

Whenever I read about bands reuniting for at least a tour if not another album, I am constantly asking myself why Led Zeppelin doesn't reform itself even though Bonzo isn't with us. That band put together so many great pieces of music....far more than what they've ever done on their own respectively.
It just boggles the mind, doesn't it? They could be turning a lot of people on to more excellent music and a new generation of listeners could be exposed to their work.
Any thoughts?

....Bob

 

[ledzepp29]

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it wouldn't matter to me if they did because tickets would be hundreds and hundreds of dollars and probably practically imposible for the regular person to get ahold of one. I read that on their last reunion tour in the 90's there were tickets that costed 1,000 dollars. That said I would still pay almost anything to see them.

 

[Scott_F]

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I believe that Bonham's son is an accomplished drummer, no?

 

[Zeppelinfan8790]

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Yeah IIRC he has sat in with the guys before. At different times I believe. I have a Jason Bonham Band cd, but I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet. :smack:

That is his son's band, correct?

 

[Stratcat]

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As much as I would like to see a Led Zeppelin reunion, I am not sure if Jimmy Page can play like he used too.

 

[midnite_man]

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I believe that Bonham's son is an accomplished drummer, no?

Absolutely.....that's exactly what I had in mind.
I never heard of any reunion tour they had in the 90's, except for the "No Quarter" tour that Page and Plant did without John Paul Jones which was a shame IMO. They did a bunch of Zep material during those performances (except for "Stairway To Heaven" that Plant vowed long ago to never perform again.....boo) and it sounded great, but the vibe would've been more vintage with John Paul onstage.
Maybe it's gotten to the point for the remaining bandmates where they just don't have any desire to create music as a band again, no way no how. I can't believe they had tapped completely into their full musical potential up to the untimely death of Bonham. Everyone evolves as time goes on, unless they quit writing and playing music altogether.

....Bob

 

[midnite_man]

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As much as I would like to see a Led Zeppelin reunion, I am not sure if Jimmy Page can play like he used too.

If Page wanted it bad enough he'd find a way, I'll bet.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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If Page wanted it bad enough he'd find a way, I'll bet.

Brother Bobby,so nice to see you back!
I have to agree with Stratcat in that Page doesn't have the chops he once had...Either the drugs from the 80's did it or I remember reading or someone saying something about arthritis.I Love Jimmy Page's stuff he did throughout the Zeppelin years,but stuff he did after that was just pretty lame as far as his lead playing...Live Aid was terrible,The Arms concert was pretty bad playing,his studio album was preety bad also....He just doesn't have the chops or the ability to do what he did early in his career...Again,I love what he has done and the guy is still a studio wizard but his glory days as a great riff master are gone,,Even the stuff he did with the Black Crowes was just ok....Other guitar players that grew up listening to Page's riffs and creativeness would agree that his playing isn't what it was before "In Through The Out Door"......Just my opinion so please don't beat me up on this guys... :burnout:

 

[Zeppelinfan8790]

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Brother Bobby,so nice to see you back!
I have to agree with Stratcat in that Page doesn't have the chops he once had...Either the drugs from the 80's did it or I remember reading or someone saying something about arthritis.I Love Jimmy Page's stuff he did throughout the Zeppelin years,but stuff he did after that was just pretty lame as far as his lead playing...Live Aid was terrible,The Arms concert was pretty bad playing,his studio album was preety bad also....He just doesn't have the chops or the ability to do what he did early in his career...Again,I love what he has done and the guy is still a studio wizard but his glory days as a great riff master are gone,,Even the stuff he did with the Black Crowes was just ok....Other guitar players that grew up listening to Page's riffs and creativeness would agree that his playing isn't what it was before "In Through The Out Door"......Just my opinion so please don't beat me up on this guys... :burnout:

I haven't heard much of Page's 80's stuff but I have a couple videos of him playing in the 90s. One is Bring it on Home w/ Plant, Joe Perry, and Steven Tyler and the other video is Page, Plant, JPJ, and I dont know who the drummer is playing a Heartbreaker/Whole Lotta Love medley, and after watching just those clips I agree with ya John. He fumbled through that Heartbreaker solo pretty badly, I felt sorry for him really :sad:

 

[75lespaul]

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Led Zeppelin actually did try to regroup with Jason Bonham I had read. When they got together to rehearse (this is before the Page/Plant No Quarter tour) Page was fumbling around trying to get his gizmos to work, bad wires, out of tune ect.. and Plant was having a fit. John Paul Jones was trying to keep it together but Page and Plant were too annoyed with each other. What I read long ago.

As far as his playing, JP is perplexing. I've never seen anyone lose their chops like he did. Even when he was playing live in Led Zeppelin I thought he was just awesome. Very commanding stage presence. Especially with those old costumes he wore.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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I haven't heard much of Page's 80's stuff but I have a couple videos of him playing in the 90s. One is Bring it on Home w/ Plant, Joe Perry, and Steven Tyler and the other video is Page, Plant, JPJ, and I dont know who the drummer is playing a Heartbreaker/Whole Lotta Love medley, and after watching just those clips I agree with ya John. He fumbled through that Heartbreaker solo pretty badly, I felt sorry for him really :sad:

Page didn't hardly play anything worth listening to on the last album..Sad to say,but Page's playing didn't continue to advance like his peers Jeff Beck and Clapton...Listen to "In Through The Outdoor" and you hear very little guitar and all keyboard...Then listen to the entire Physical Graffitti albums or even "Presence" and figure out which albums have the Page leads and riffs we heard on all the other releases before this...It's like what happened here? Was it a playing style change?Lack of interest with Zep? Drugs maybe? It is sad because Page's early stuff and just about everything he did with Zeppelin was just such great guitar work! My ears and my eyes and being a player tell me that he's pretty washed up really..

John

 

[Scott_F]

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Page can probably play all those old licks in his sleep.

 

[Scott_F]

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Let's start a petition or something. Not.

 

[take2]

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I'd have to agree with the chops piece with one exception - I thought the stuff he did with The Firm was interesting - but than again, Paul Rogers was a lot of that band. It wasn't his Led Zep days but it was interesting stuff - remember Radio Active.

 

[Zeppelinfan8790]

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Page didn't hardly play anything worth listening to on the last album..Sad to say,but Page's playing didn't continue to advance like his peers Jeff Beck and Clapton...Listen to "In Through The Outdoor" and you hear very little guitar and all keyboard...Then listen to the entire Physical Graffitti albums or even "Presence" and figure out which albums have the Page leads and riffs we heard on all the other releases before this...It's like what happened here? Was it a playing style change?Lack of interest with Zep? Drugs maybe? It is sad because Page's early stuff and just about everything he did with Zeppelin was just such great guitar work! My ears and my eyes and being a player tell me that he's pretty washed up really..

John

"In Through the Out Door" is the only Zeppelin album I don't have. I have thought about getting it before, but I'll just wait until my mom sees it at a garage sale over the summer and have her get it for a dime. But "Presence" was definately still a rockin album. "Physical Grafitti" is definately an awesome album. But around 79 is when Page got into heroin or coke or whatever drug it was and you can hear on bootlegs like Knebworth 79 that he's just not quite as good as he was 5 years prior.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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Page can probably play all those old licks in his sleep.

Scott....I know I sense some sarcasim but I've have way too many videos that show a downfall in his playing....He's just fighting with his Les Paul in the Live Aid stuff,then watch the "Arms Tour" concert where he did all those Death Wish soundtracks and again,you see a player struggling to get his point across...Finally,watch Page try to play the lead solos to Stairway To Heaven....The chops are gone and I don't know why,but I do remember when and it was from around 1980 and on...

I Loved the Firm stuff,but the second album flopped...Again,Page didn't do anything special on that album as far as lead work,in fact Rodgers did the Radioactive riffs on that tune....I can talk trivia about Page,Zeppelin,and the stuff he did before Zeppelin because Page has always been,and still is,one of my favorite players of my era....

John

 

[Jake]

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Wait, so Page refuses to play "stairway" yet has no qualms jamming with Puff Daddy to a messed up version of "kashmir"?



for the record: i do not like led zeppelin

 

[take2]

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Thanks SD, I didn't realize those riffs were Rogers - I thought Page had really taken on a new twist.

 

[Rainmaker]

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Puff Daddy... hmm.

Could it be that if he started playing a tele, that it would make it easier for him to play?

But with all those endorsements...

Bee

 

[bearballz]

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Well Page and Plant have done stuff throughout the 90's. If Page and Plant wanted to reunite to reform Zep thats fine. But I think the queston is whether John Paul Jones wnats to be a part of it? And I don't think he wants to do it.

He's got so much on his plate with his solo stuff . Plus he's doing soumd tracks and producing albums. He's done very well for himself in his post Zep career.


As far as Pages playing I think he is not as good as he once was. I remember going to see him on tour when he was supporting his solo disc back in 1990 and was not impressed. What was worse than that is when he was in the FIRM. Really mediocre playing and the 2 albums they released were just so cheesey.