Lets have a Gibson bash to make me feel better

JeffB

JeffB

Let it B
Cos right now I am PISSED OFF at Gibson.

Unfortunately my Flying V has started to develop a neck "twist" for lack of a better term. IDK if it's the change in weather reacting with the thin skin or what. The Low E side of the board has started to give a little and dip low- so the High side of the board is flat, and the low E has effectively more relief- I can compensate a little with the height of the TOM and and it plays OK but I'm annoyed, and want it fixed.

More annoying- Gibson will take it back for warranty work, but not with the pups that are in it (nor can I just remove them)- i.e. it HAS to have the original 500T/496R in it (or at least A set, not necc the originals). Of course my 500T/496R have been sold to a forum Bro. Of course I can buy some used, but I'm pissed I have to invest another $75 bucks or more in it to send it back for a replacement (I don't think it can be fixed short of a new neck) on top of the shipping fees.

Pup swaps are so common that I cannot believe this would be an issue with getting warranty work done. It's not like there is structural change where I took off the Klusons, drilled some new holes and put some Schallers in, had it re-fretted,installed new bridge studs or whatnot.

So word of warning Gibson owners-keep your original pups.
 
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Maybe you can work out a deal where you borrow a set from someone here.

I don't know if this policy is unique to Gibson. It may be a common industry practice, but since few guitars are actually taken back for warranty work, we don't realize it.
 
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Yeah! Gibson, boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Somewhat related, my Epiphone has developed a bad neck problem too, it has taken on a U shape, the neck is not straight

Frets 1 and 2 and 3 are high, the neck gets low around frets 10 - 14, and then they are high again around 16 - 20

Basically, it buzzes, no matter what --- it's awful!

I spent some time carefully adjusting the truss rod last night, will try more gentle tweaking this weekend!
 
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blueman335 said:
Maybe you can work out a deal where you borrow a set from someone here.

I don't know if this policy is unique to Gibson. It may be a common industry practice, but since few guitars are actually taken back for warranty work, we don't realize it.
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Oh quit talking all rational..I'm ranting here !!!!!! :laugh2:

I thought about seeing if someone had a spare set around here- one way or another they would get them back (either the borrowed set, or the ones coming out of a brand new replacement V)
 
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Holy sh!t that sucks! Anything to get out of doing a warranty repair me thinks.
 
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i know if i send my rolex back to rolex, with aftermarket parts on it, they will put it back to stock and charge me for it.
 
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Will they take it back only if it has a 500T/496R set, or will any Gibson set work?

I ask because I have a BB1/BB2 set in my Lester that you can use for a while if need be.
 
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Less quality + less service + higher prices.

And sometimes I ask myself why I am not in line to buy one....
 
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Sorry, Jeff. That's lame of Gibson.


Somebody loan this man some stock Gibbos!!!

Looks like Stratsanddaks might be able to hook you up.
 
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Takamine does the same thing, BTW. A buddy of mine replaced the undersaddle piezo for a LR Baggs strip that dropped right in.

Long story short, his neck started doing the warp, and Takamine wouldn't take it back for warranty. I ended up having to return it to stock so he could have it serviced and then having to reinstall the LR Baggs after he got it back.
 
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Why send it back to Gibson?? The guy that does my setups has his own shop in Nashville and he happens to be authorized by Gibson and Fender to do warranty work. Unless the guitar needed to be exchanged for a new one I doubt he would care what pickup was in the guitar... .


There's no place like that near you??
 
Re: Lets have a Gibson bash to make me feel better

JeffB said:
Cos right now I am PISSED OFF at Gibson.

Unfortunately my Flying V has started to develop a neck "twist" for lack of a better term. IDK if it's the change in weather reacting with the thin skin or what. The Low E side of the board has started to give a little and dip low- so the High side of the board is flat, and the low E has effectively more relief- I can compensate a little with the height of the TOM and and it plays OK but I'm annoyed, and want it fixed.

More annoying- Gibson will take it back for warranty work, but not with the pups that are in it (nor can I just remove them)- i.e. it HAS to have the original 500T/496R in it (or at least A set, not necc the originals). Of course my 500T/496R have been sold to a forum Bro. Of course I can buy some used, but I'm pissed I have to invest another $75 bucks or more in it to send it back for a replacement (I don't think it can be fixed short of a new neck) on top of the shipping fees.

Pup swaps are so common that I cannot believe this would be an issue with getting warranty work done. It's not like there is structural change where I took off the Klusons, drilled some new holes and put some Schallers in, had it re-fretted,installed new bridge studs or whatnot.

So word of warning Gibson owners-keep your original pups.
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Are you trying to have the guitar replace or repaired? I could see if you wanted it replaced that they would want all the original hardware in it as it was when purchased, but if you are planning on getting it repaired then whats the big deal! Have you taken it to a Gibson warranty center? They may tell you that it is fixable without a neck replacement.
 
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If his neck is twisting, they may just replace the whole guitar instead of replacing the neck. That would be the only issue I could as to why they'd be balking about having aftermarket pickups in there. Either way I think it's stupid. A large percentage of the guitar playing population swap pickups. It shouldn't be an issue at all.
 
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KGMESSIER said:
I still have the stock pups from my '94 Gibson LP Standard. Are those 500T/496R?

- Keith
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No. The LP Standard in 1994 came with the 490R/498T combo.

LP Classics came with the 496R/500T.
 
Re: Lets have a Gibson bash to make me feel better

Man Idk why someone would want to swap out the Gibson pups anyways, I've always loved the sound of their pickups.
 
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