Fender_Punk
BerriesAndCreamologist
Re: Looking for a stack
Ok. Story time.
I was at a punk show last night, probably around 100 people there. Every band's guitarist used a half stack. One band the guitarist had a Mesa triple rectifier and a Gibson Nighthawk. The guitarist said he had it set on 6. It was LOUD!! Not too loud for the venue, but it certain filled the whole room and wasn't mic'd. The crappy thing was, the guitarist had a HORRIBLE tone. Picture a pushed tube amp, tons of distortion, no treble, cranked bass and mids using a humbucker with the tone rolled way down. I could even stand hearing it, I had to go outside.
Btw, this show, was at a bar. Though I may be 17 I'm allowed into a bar, however I may not purchase or consume alcohol. As for a good guitar, I have two, and for now I'm more than content with them. My amp however, is crap. I'll keep it even when I buy a half stack, as it is useful for playing in my house. However for rehearsals and gigs I need more volume and MUCH better amp tone.
My first plan is to look online and buy something used. Part of this thread is to see which of these amps are reliable and have good tone. I'm not looking for people to go "you don't need a stack, you need a 2x12 combo". If I needed a 2x12 combo, I'd be looking for one. I'm looking for a half stack, one that will last me a decade and give me the tones I want and the volume I need. If and when I do step into a music store I will do so with my guitar, ask to try the amps and cabs I'm looking for and buy the one that satisfies my tastes and budget.
When I bought my Squier the *******, know-it-all-suaver-than-thou sales man approached me with a diahrea smile asking if he could help me. I told him I was learning guitar for 6 months on a classical and was looking to buy an eletric. I told him I wanted a Stratocaster. He suggested to me a Peavey as it was "a good student's guitar". I told him I wasn't taking lessons and Peavey didn't make Strats. I saw a black Squier Affinity Strat, asked to try it, looked over the body, played it acoustic, plugged in and as soon as I did he threw on the gain. I threw the gain back off and told him I would approach him when I needed him. I played it clean, then distorted, and fell in love with everything about the guitar. I asked to purchase the pack that came with and I've owned the guitar ever since. Turned out the one that came in the pack was much better quality than the in-store one I tried. Moral of the story: I don't listen to salesmen.
Good advice. Nobody needs a stack. Half stacks are ok, but seriously...
I have a 50 watt Marshall dsl50 head and 1960a cab. The main venue I play is over 400 people...I hardly think you need a half stack. Think of how hard it is to transport a 4x12 cab by itself! You NEED two people to carry it up/down stairs and stuff. Plus, the head isnt exactly light. Dont forget your other equipment, guitars, cables, pedals, etc.
Get a 2x12" combo and do yourself a favor. I hardly think your gigging more than 100 people...
You are 17, and therefore cannot even enter a bar...at least where I am. Maybe save up for a good guitar?
after all this advice...you are probably just going to go to a music store, and rely on what the sales people tell you anyway...
almost nothing people say here really matters in reality when making gear purchases. The reality is you are going to go to a music store, and buy the amp you like. Its much better to try them out in real life
Ok. Story time.
I was at a punk show last night, probably around 100 people there. Every band's guitarist used a half stack. One band the guitarist had a Mesa triple rectifier and a Gibson Nighthawk. The guitarist said he had it set on 6. It was LOUD!! Not too loud for the venue, but it certain filled the whole room and wasn't mic'd. The crappy thing was, the guitarist had a HORRIBLE tone. Picture a pushed tube amp, tons of distortion, no treble, cranked bass and mids using a humbucker with the tone rolled way down. I could even stand hearing it, I had to go outside.
Btw, this show, was at a bar. Though I may be 17 I'm allowed into a bar, however I may not purchase or consume alcohol. As for a good guitar, I have two, and for now I'm more than content with them. My amp however, is crap. I'll keep it even when I buy a half stack, as it is useful for playing in my house. However for rehearsals and gigs I need more volume and MUCH better amp tone.
My first plan is to look online and buy something used. Part of this thread is to see which of these amps are reliable and have good tone. I'm not looking for people to go "you don't need a stack, you need a 2x12 combo". If I needed a 2x12 combo, I'd be looking for one. I'm looking for a half stack, one that will last me a decade and give me the tones I want and the volume I need. If and when I do step into a music store I will do so with my guitar, ask to try the amps and cabs I'm looking for and buy the one that satisfies my tastes and budget.
When I bought my Squier the *******, know-it-all-suaver-than-thou sales man approached me with a diahrea smile asking if he could help me. I told him I was learning guitar for 6 months on a classical and was looking to buy an eletric. I told him I wanted a Stratocaster. He suggested to me a Peavey as it was "a good student's guitar". I told him I wasn't taking lessons and Peavey didn't make Strats. I saw a black Squier Affinity Strat, asked to try it, looked over the body, played it acoustic, plugged in and as soon as I did he threw on the gain. I threw the gain back off and told him I would approach him when I needed him. I played it clean, then distorted, and fell in love with everything about the guitar. I asked to purchase the pack that came with and I've owned the guitar ever since. Turned out the one that came in the pack was much better quality than the in-store one I tried. Moral of the story: I don't listen to salesmen.