Mesa Petrucci Sig 2C+ishness

[B2D]

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On one hand - I'm kind of at the stage where I'm eye-rolling at all the signature gear that Petrucci has. I think he might be tied with Zak Wylde at this point.

On other hand, it might be nice to play an amp that's close to a IIC+ that hasn't been mistreated or altered by some clown with a soldering iron.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: Mesa Petrucci Sig 2C+ishness

that looks pretty bad ass

Looks EXPENSIVE !

 

[allbutromeo]

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I hope that when Mesa comes out with a Mk VI eventually it looks a bit like this combined with the MkV. Or basically a MkV with two assignable GEQs. On the current model I don't really like the blend able preset, and it's kind of tough to get a GEQ setting that works well for channel 2 that still works for channel3. YMMV.

 

[dystrust]

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IMO, they wouldn't sell that well. While the initial surge would probably be decent people would quickly realize why they were never that popular to begin with and once their curiosity was satisfied they'd turn around and dump them on the used market.

Anyone who is serious about wanting a Mark IIC+ can easily get one. They're for sale all the time and the price isn't all that extravagant for a holy grail amplifier that was only made in limited quantities. Anyone who can't afford a IIC+ can easily buy an early Mark III and have the majority of the IIC+ sound, and as a bonus it's even more raw and aggressive... but no one wants a Mark III because of the compromises in it's design, which happen to be the same compromises that are in the IIC+. There's a reason you see guys like Hetfield and Petrucci using a TriAxis live... and it's not because they can't afford to gig real IIC+s.

On that note, other options for people who're chasing that sound include the Studio Preamp, Quad Preamp, and TriAxis preamp.

Long story short, there's a lot of options available for people who are serious about wanting that particular sound, even if they can't afford the real deal... and since I'm fairly certain that the majority of people whining about Mesa not offering a true reissue don't own any of this gear, I can only assume that they're not serious enough about wanting it to put their money where their mouth is.

+1

I've played through a Mark IIC+, but it was only for a couple minutes and I don't remember it all that well. I'm much more familiar with the Triaxis / Mark III, while my bro used to own both a Studio Pre and Quad. Of these options the Triaxis probably sounds the least like the others, but it also offers lots of sounds that you can't easily get from a Mark IIC+/III. The Mark III, Studio, & Quad OTOH all sound VERY similar, and my bro ended up choosing the Studio Pre because it had better clarity than the Quad and was more versatile (via choosing a power amp) than any of the Mark IIIs he auditioned. The Triaxis was eliminated because it was just too expensive (at the time) for the quality of sounds available.

 

[some_dude]

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- Not the MkV C+ mode, is designed to sound like a specific C+ that JP has.

- Shred mode is a frequency shift that focuses on clarity.

- Channel 1 has more headroom than a C+.

- Channels 2 & 3 aren't identical. One is slightly crunchier and the other is slightly more creamy with a bit more gain.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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- Channels 2 & 3 aren't identical. One is slightly crunchier and the other is slightly more creamy with a bit more gain.

One is probably intended as his rhythm channel (probably the crunchier of the two) and the other is his lead channel.

 

[VHTJay]

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One is probably intended as his rhythm channel (probably the crunchier of the two) and the other is his lead channel.

And this is honestly the coolest thing about this amp IMO: not the fact that you are getting and exact replica of the 2C+.....but that you are getting that venerable platform with 3 channels, 2 eq's and tweaked.
The clean channel on Marks has always been great in my opinion, so that is there

The crunch....well....in the 80's there weren't many amps that could do what the 2C+ could, but I can easily get that type of rhythm tone with my Fryette/VHT or channel 3b on my H&K Triamp. Other guys can get it with a 5150, Diezel, Bogner, etc. That isn't necessarily the big draw, although I have played a 2C+ and owned the mk4, studio pre and triaxis (twice) and do think that the mark series tight and punchy rhythm tone is still a great one.

The lead tone on a Mark is another matter. It is what I miss most about my Mk4 and studio. Dialed in, it was the easiest lead tone to play. It just FELT great to play. The problem is, is that on a mk4 you were compromising: you set the amp for a killer tight rhythm....you lose the lead tone. Vice versa and you take a hit in the rhythm.

So, to have a 2C+ platform where you don't have to compromise? Oh man.....very interested!

 

[LazNovak]

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This looks awesome. I was thinking of getting a Mark V but I'd rather have the JP.

 

[B2D]

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Looks EXPENSIVE !

$2499, so Bogner/Friedman money.

But don't worry!! You can FINANCE IT!!

Watched the video last night.

I'll admit it sounds pretty darn good from here. I just wish he hadn't used a chorus on the clean channel demo. I'd be OK with a delay like he had with lead but chorus is coloring the tone too much. I wanna hear the AMP.

 

[allbutromeo]

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$2499, so Bogner/Friedman money.

But don't worry!! You can FINANCE IT!!

Watched the video last night.

I'll admit it sounds pretty darn good from here. I just wish he hadn't used a chorus on the clean channel demo. I'd be OK with a delay like he had with lead but chorus is coloring the tone too much. I wanna hear the AMP.

Thats a lot less than I was expecting. It's only $250 more than a MkV and $250 less than a Road King II

 

[Animal]

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Did they even mic up the cab? It took them 30 years to re-issue an amp and then show it off via direct out???!!!

 

[B2D]

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Did they even mic up the cab? It took them 30 years to re-issue an amp and then show it off via direct out???!!!

They either did that or had a cab in another room that was miced up.

 

[J E C]

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Sounds like a cool amp. Makes more sense to me now that I've watched the video.

 

[Animal]

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They either did that or had a cab in another room that was miced up.

That's a definite possibility.

Sounded rather dry and processed to me. I really wish they would work on capturing the live feel and responsiveness of their products.

 

[B2D]

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That's a definite possibility.

Sounded rather dry and processed to me. I really wish they would work on capturing the live feel and responsiveness of their products.

There's an ongoing thread about this on Boogie's FB page. I've asked them whether it was miced or direct. They did tell someone else that the rack in the video was NOT a part of the rig.