most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

brit84

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im going to try both out, i dont want a tremolo, i love the gray black and finish in quilt and the tortoise shell in flame top

any huge differences i should be aware of beforehand?

anyone know where i can find info for prices for add ons such as ten top, birds, etc?

thanks:burnout:
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

When I tried those two guitars, I loved the McCarty, but thought the 22 was too thin, light and lacked resonance.
Price wise the McCarty was nearly twice the price, but then that's UK pricing.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Depending on your budget, the PRS to buy is the DGT.

It's PERFECT !!!

Is neck size an issue for you ?
The Mcarty only comes with the fat profile, that was a deal killer for me.
I love the wide/thin.

Noone could say my CU22 isn't resonant OR thin.. it rings like a bell.... beautiful.
 
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Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

CU22 will give you more options. Neck size (though that may have changed for 2008-MCarty may now get a Wide/thin option). Colors. trem/no trem. 5 way rotary/3 way toggle.

I find the pups about even tonally. I like both the D2s and the McCartys and my last singlecut had one of each in it.

The Mccarty will be a bit thicker in the body, have vintage kluson tuners, and a thinner headstock.

The maple tops used for each are a different species.

Play them both. I've played MCcartys that were thin and weedy sounding,with little sustain, and Cu22s the same. I've played glorious examples of each as well. Consistency in build quality and playability is a PRS hallmark, just gotta find a good sounding piece of wood.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

If you have the dough, go for the McCarty imo. Pure tone! (The one i played was obviously a great piece of wood).

If you have alot of dough then get the Modern Eagle. I love the faded denim finish personally.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Try as many PRS models as you can. If you're spending that kind of cash, you may as well explore all of their options. While they can do all styles, the Custom is more rockin' and the McCarty is more of a middle of the road guitar. But the McCarty is said to be a revolutionary design so... play them all and see! *jealous*

Whichever model you choose, even if its something other than the McCarty or Custom, you'll be extremely pleased.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Having more PRS run through my hands than I care to think about I'll try to give you my somewhat-but-not-really qualified advice.

The only two PRS that have stayed in my hands are a Cu22 and a singlecut. However, I would actually probably prefer a McCarty to my Cu22, but I won't be selling my Cu22 as it is an artist package and is cosmetically dinged enough that I'd be taking a huge loss on it if I sold it. It was also bought (at least half of it) for me as a present and has been the guitar I cut my teeth on in the music scene and also sounds **** good.

I like that McCarty's are a little thicker and used to own a MC Standard, but sold it as I was never able to get it to sound quite right. Might have been that I was used to having a maple cap on my guitars, might have been the pickups I tried in it (probably the case) or might have just been a bum piece of wood (happens to every company once in a while). The McCarty just feels 'right' in my hands. The thicker body feels a little better to me than a Cu22. But that is not to say that a Cu22 is bad. Hell, I've got a great one and had another really good one that I sold because I realized I don't like tremelos.

Also take note that I stuck with a singlecut. I know it isn't what you mentioned, but they're the best guitar PRS makes, IMO. Try one out. You might be surprised. I especially would like a SC245. But my Singlecut that I currently own (and the one I sold to my dad) are my two favorite PRS guitars. Take that for what its worth.

As for what you mentioned, I'd go for the McCarty in tortoise shell. But then again, I like the Wide/Fat profile (only option on the MC) and if you like thinner necks you might want to go with a Cu22 (unless they now offer the wide/thin on McCarty's).

As for 10 tops, birds, etc? How ornate do you like your guitars. Both my PRS are opposite ends of the spectrum. My singlecut is solid paint (no 10 top) with dots and it is every bit as good as my Cu (artist grade top, paua birds, gold hardware). I'd personally not opt for birds as they're expensive and no one can see you have them unless they're up way close.

10 top? I've got mixed feelings. Some non-10 tops look every bit as good as a 10 top, kinda just luck of the draw. I prefer plain paint, however, if I'm going to have a stain, I prefer a nice grain to the maple. Basically if you are ordering the guitar and want a nicer top, ask yourself if the extra money is worth it. If it is, ordering that option helps to guarantee a nicer top. It is luck of the draw otherwise. If you're not going to buy new, just inspect the guitar. You'll find that some non-10 tops look stunning. To me it comes down to whether you're going to order this guitar or buy one that is in stock, if that makes any sense.
 
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Between the McCarty and Custom 22, the McCarty is the superior design, IMO.

You have to remember....Ted McCarty was the President of Gibson throughout their glory years, and he's personally responsible for introducing some of Gibson's best models.
He must have seen some of the questionable design ideas PRS had, and was hired as a consultant to give his 2 cents.

I've had and played a lot of PRS guitars, I agree with Ted McCarty.

The original PRS's had a body that was too thin, pushing too many nasal mids.

The headstock wasn't angled enough, and it didn't promote sustain....also because of those bulky cuff tuners sucking the resonance out of the headstock.

The original PRS trem was a great design, but they didn't have a good original fixed bridge, so Ted urged them to use a stopbar tailpiece. This transfered energy better, sustained perfectly, and was comfortable to rest your hand on.

Some complain about the long heel on McCartys, but on a double cutaway guitar, this is the best way to transfer energy and tone. Without it, you've got the small heel that PRS Customs and SG's have, where the neck is too flexible, killing sustain.

Kluson tuners allow the headstock to vibrate more freely, than bulkier tuners.

The 5 way rotary switch proved to be non user friendly to most players who spent their lives with Gibson and Fender type layouts. The pullup tone knob and 3 way has stood the test of time.....even as far as PRS is concerned.

My opinion is that the PRS Singlecut and McCarty are 2 guitars that could be considered 'the Gibsons that never were.' They were Gibson-ized enough to sway many Gibson diehards over to the PRS side. Without the McCarty and Singlecut models, that may have never happened.
 
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I love my Historic 57 LP and I just bit the bullet and bought a 1994 McCarty. It is all that and a bag of chips. I like the extra thick body and the wide fat neck is sublime(and I have smallish hands). If I were going for another one I would go McCarty with the solid rosewood neck. Lightly used. I probably will eventually.
 
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I'm gonna skip all the jive and just get to the point. Buy the McCarty. It's a brilliant guitar.
 
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No other guitar moves me like the PRS McCarty. I have played everything under the sun and it just fits me the right way. The reason why I purchased it instead of a custom 24 was because a) I don't need 24 frets, b) I like the wide/fat neck c) like the big heel and d) the thicker mahogany body makes the guitar for me.

I've gotten sick of guitars that do thinner tones. I've owned plenty in the past and the McCarty is such a beautifully thick and complex tone. When it comes down to playing leads, it's just so fat and warm and when I want those lower mids to really punch on palm mutes, it does it.

To me, it's the perfect Gibson. It stays in tune, it comes with a wraparound bridge, the simplified controls rock, love the placement of everything, and it has a lot of wood like a Gibby, so you can get that sustain and punch like a good Les Paul (provided you get one with good wood). I'm all about doublecut guitars (I dig the looks and upper fret access), but this one looks, sounds and plays better than any other doublecuts I've played or owned (including Gibson LP DCs and Hamer Studios).

I've accepted at this point that my tone search is over. PRS McCarties and Bogner EL-34 Shivas are my end-of-the-road.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

I have a McCarty and I love it! I bought it blindly on Ebay knowing I could get my money back if I didn't like it but it's a keeper!! I've never played any other PRS guitars.....I went for birds and the ten top too....added features I enjoy. I wouldn't have liked the 5 way rotary switch or the trem of the CU22, though I could have gotten one without.........I have a Duncan Distortion and a Pearly Gates in there at the moment. Simply an amazing guitar!
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Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

sweet, got the options all laid out a the store today...

2750 base for either the mccarty or custom 22
+465 10 top flame
or
+610 10 top quilt
+260 Bird inlay
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Have you given any thought to Hamer guitars? The Custom Studio I just bought easily rivals ANY PRS I've ever owned or played.....period. I had a McCarty Brazilian Limited with IRW neck. The Hamer beats it out even. Just food for thought.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

sweet, got the options all laid out a the store today...

2750 base for either the mccarty or custom 22
+465 10 top flame
or
+610 10 top quilt
+260 Bird inlay

Good lord! That price is ridiculous. Buy used!
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Good lord! That price is ridiculous. Buy used!

if i get used its on ebay...which means shipping to canada....which means taxes and duties at border..which =same price in the end:flush:
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

Good lord! That price is ridiculous. Buy used!

That's it in a nutshell. My #1 was purchased for something like $1325 or so shipped. I just got another one for $1400 shipped. So yes, if you don't need a 10 top or bird inlays, you can find them for less than $1500 - if you do want those, you can find them used for a few hundred more.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

^^ Absolutely. Used is the only good option unless you want to spend gobs of money. My first PRS was bought new. As nice of a guitar as it is..........it's definitely not worth that kind of cash....no way.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

The McCarty is one of the best guitars ever made. I love the sound and sustain. The pickups might be the most versatile that I have ever tried. The stoptail definitely helps make the tone perhaps better than the trem.
 
Re: most likly buying a prs....mccarty or custom 22?

alright, if anyone has a mccarty 10 top in tortiose shell flame, I WANT IT
 
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