My 2nd SG should be a . . . ???

[Empty Pockets]

Re: My 2nd SG should be a . . . ???

coil taping is just basically cutting the power to one of the two coils on the HB so that only half of the pup is actually producing sound. Jimmy page did this to his #1 les paul so that he could pull up on the volume knob and get a SC sound. A couple of other players had this mod done too. No it will not get you that signature Fender SC twang, but it is still a SC sound. Its more of a P90 sound IMO. but thats an option to have a guitar with HB and still have it do a SC sound.

I don't think a split humbucker sounds like a P90. I've tried the 500T and CustomCustom with a coil split in my SG-X, and I've also tried the Phat Cat in that guitar. Both humbuckers sound extremely thin and twangy compared to the growling girth supplied by the Phat Cat.

To me a P90 sounds like a Fender single coil with way bigger balls. A split humbucker sounds like a Fender single coil with no balls. That makes it good in a humbucker-equipped guitar cuz you can switch from the fat humbucker sound to this new, thinner, twangier sound, but it just doesn't do what a real single coil can.

The more I think about your situation, the more i think you'd be happier with a Jaguar or Jazzmaster...they get a really good, really "true" single coil tone...maybe a phat cat in the bridge of your SG too :smokin:

 

[Sludgenutz]

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An SG with 90's is the iron fist, in a velvet glove. An LP w/P90's, is the same fist in a thicker glove.

 

[d1dsj]

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I think everyone needs at least one P-90 loaded guitar.

+1 to the big man and Blueman. I've only just started using my P90 loaded guitar ( not an S.G though still a Gibson) and I really love the sounds I'm getting... big and ballsy yet with great clairty.... go for the classic, you know you need it! Oh yeah, and the neck pick up is smoother and bluesier than Elwood and Jake!

 

[JOLLY]

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+1 to the big man and Blueman. I've only just started using my P90 loaded guitar ( not an S.G though still a Gibson) and I really love the sounds I'm getting... big and ballsy yet with great clairty.... go for the classic, you know you need it! Oh yeah, and the neck pick up is smoother and bluesier than Elwood and Jake!

Word.........

Now what is that guitar of your's again? I've checked it out many a time in pics. I don't think I've ever seen another one quite like it.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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I don't think a split humbucker sounds like a P90. I've tried the 500T and CustomCustom with a coil split in my SG-X, and I've also tried the Phat Cat in that guitar. Both humbuckers sound extremely thin and twangy compared to the growling girth supplied by the Phat Cat.

To me a P90 sounds like a Fender single coil with way bigger balls. A split humbucker sounds like a Fender single coil with no balls. That makes it good in a humbucker-equipped guitar cuz you can switch from the fat humbucker sound to this new, thinner, twangier sound, but it just doesn't do what a real single coil can.

The more I think about your situation, the more i think you'd be happier with a Jaguar or Jazzmaster...they get a really good, really "true" single coil tone...maybe a phat cat in the bridge of your SG too :smokin:

personally, im not a SC guy at all. they just dont do anything for me, there is just something about a HB..........idk what it is. I will only play SC's for blues, but other than that im HB's all the way! :headbang:

 

[d1dsj]

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Word.........

Now what is that guitar of your's again? I've checked it out many a time in pics. I don't think I've ever seen another one quite like it.

Les Paul D.C Pro.... here it is....

 

[SlowGroove]

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I don't think a split humbucker sounds like a P90. I've tried the 500T and CustomCustom with a coil split in my SG-X, and I've also tried the Phat Cat in that guitar. Both humbuckers sound extremely thin and twangy compared to the growling girth supplied by the Phat Cat.

To me a P90 sounds like a Fender single coil with way bigger balls. A split humbucker sounds like a Fender single coil with no balls. That makes it good in a humbucker-equipped guitar cuz you can switch from the fat humbucker sound to this new, thinner, twangier sound, but it just doesn't do what a real single coil can.

The more I think about your situation, the more i think you'd be happier with a Jaguar or Jazzmaster...they get a really good, really "true" single coil tone...maybe a phat cat in the bridge of your SG too :smokin:

What do you have in your SG X right now ?

Curious !



James

 

[SlowGroove]

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Les Paul D.C Pro.... here it is....

I realy like these DC Gibbo's ! Never did a year ago !
While i was away from home, and before i knew my gear got stollen, i saw a MINT cond. DC for $500.00 in a pawn shop.

I should have bought it . . .

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?base_pid=517512&cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&index=2 - this one.


IDIOT
:banghead:

 

[d1dsj]

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I have only just started playing this one... it's a custom shop model with a funny shaped headstock... now I really like it.

 

[Butch Snyder]

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But it is still Humbuckers - i want/need S/C tone like the SGIII posted above, see :

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p312/JERMDADDY/Gibson sgs/SG3pueb002.jpg = 3x single coils, not 'buckers !!!



James

In your initial post, the third choice was "some other SG". But then, I reread your post and saw you were really looking into single coils. My bad... anyway, what about the three-pickup model but with Phat Cats? Like this one?

 

[d1dsj]

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/\ /\ smartass! /\/\/\ lol...

 

[Butch Snyder]

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/\ /\ smartass! /\/\/\ lol...

:naughty:

 

[Jeffrec]

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SG Classic:14:

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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In your initial post, the third choice was "some other SG". But then, I reread your post and saw you were really looking into single coils. My bad... anyway, what about the three-pickup model but with Phat Cats? Like this one?

what the hell is that?!?! ive never seen that model w/ fat cats. looks tight tho!

 

[Butch Snyder]

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what the hell is that?!?! ive never seen that model w/ fat cats. looks tight tho!

It's my feeble attempt at a photoshop job...

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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It's my feeble attempt at a photoshop job...

oh haha. well its looks pretty legit. maybe gibson can custom make it for you if you ask them, but it will probably cost you an arm and a leg to get.

 

[blueman335]

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+1 to the big man and Blueman. I've only just started using my P90 loaded guitar ( not an S.G though still a Gibson) and I really love the sounds I'm getting... big and ballsy yet with great clairty.... go for the classic, you know you need it!

There's a lot of forgotten virtues to P-90's, and I think they could make a comeback in popularity. Everything doesn't have to have HB's.

The HB bridge/P-90 neck combination is way under-used. Using Phat Cats, I've converted several guitars to this, and love the sounds. In some woods, a neck HB can be fairly dark, and a fat single coil is ideal for usable tones.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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I like having at least one Gibson with 'buckers, and at least one Gibson with P-90s. In my case, that translated to a LP Standard and an SG Classic. Between those two, the SG Classic fits me better. Just feels right, and the sound is gorgeously primal.

- Keith

 

[super rad stuff]

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coil taping is just basically cutting the power to one of the two coils on the HB so that only half of the pup is actually producing sound. Jimmy page did this to his #1 les paul so that he could pull up on the volume knob and get a SC sound. A couple of other players had this mod done too. No it will not get you that signature Fender SC twang, but it is still a SC sound. Its more of a P90 sound IMO. but thats an option to have a guitar with HB and still have it do a SC sound.

he did it to his #2 actually. there's some other post that links to his guitars' history on the forum.
why don't you try what i did? i have the same guitar, and i put a phat cat in the neck with a humbucker in the bridge with a coil tap and phase switch for the volume and tone, repectively. this way, i can still get a fairly strat-y tone when i turn both pickups on with the bridge split, and i can get the 2/4 oop style sounds with the phase switch. also, when i have both pickups selected with the bridge split, it doesn't have that wimpy, bass-less sound that split humbuckers tend to have. I like it because i have a large number of combinations with varying levels of output, and the p90 neck tone is pretty addictive:naughty:

 

[Butch Snyder]

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oh haha. well its looks pretty legit. maybe gibson can custom make it for you if you ask them, but it will probably cost you an arm and a leg to get.

Thanks but no thanks. SG's are not my thing. I can't stand the body style.