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greekdude said:
I think that if this energy transferred to the body comes back and forth in frequencies that are multiples of the main frequency (harmonics), then this is what works against the basic string vibration and finally kills the sustain. For ultimate sustain, ideally you'd want completely still parts beyond the nut and the saddles. However, this "dampening" if done to certain harmonics might change the tone for the better, without harming sustain badly.
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I'm suggesting that, with the granite and soft lead inserts, it's possible that you are seeing less "noise" being first generated and then reciprocated from the block/springs/spring claw elements and that, therefore, more of the picking/strumming energy imparted by the player is being actively transferred into the bridge/body/neck, increasing the unplugged volume of the guitar, as well as the clarity of the notes picked up by the pickups.

I actually suspect an increase in sustain because of reduction in stray resonance/harmonics, not a decrease.
 
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Funkfingers said:
I have one very specific question:

For a 21 or 22 fret guitar, with a single coil-sized pickup positioned beneath the node where the 24th fret would be, select the neck position pickup, play harmonics above the fifth fret. Do these sound as loudly through the amplifier as harmonics from above the twelfth, ninth, seventh or third frets?
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I don't get what we are doing here? What is the pourpose? If I did gtet what you are getting at, I have 17 guitars and only one with single coils. That would be my Parker which doesn't have a Floyd in it.
 
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Securb said:
I don't get what we are doing here? What is the pourpose? If I did gtet what you are getting at, I have 17 guitars and only one with single coils. That would be my Parker which doesn't have a Floyd in it.
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Nice job Bruce even though I know there is much more to come but I have to ask ALL of you that have well thought out analogies of why you think this or that is happening and why based on the simple test Bruce has posted here. Do any of you have a basis or facts to reference your opinions? about decrease or increase and so on or are just voicing your opinions? Because I can help you understand the mechanics of this material used no matter in a Rock Block or any other internal applications that's part of my patents on file from a Geo Physicist stand point that is factual than assumptions. Basically moving the atoms within the atomic structure is also associated with the piezo effect which has much to do with the reaction of this mineral composition while under pressure and simultaneously vibrating. More mass of the optimum transducing material bigger the performance.
 
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I just gave the guitar a rip through the Marshall and I can't wipe the grin off my face. The response and harmonics are wild. This guitar has fantastic pickups, prototypes hand wound by Lindy Fralin himself. However, it is like I am really hearing them for the first time. Great mids and the sustain is freaking wild. I was popping Zakk squelies and hitting the tremelo and they went on forever. I can't wait to rip on this beast at practice on Sunday.

Robert thank you for turning me onto this product.
 
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Securb said:
I just gave the guitar a rip through the Marshall and I can't wipe the grin off my face. The response and harmonics are wild. This guitar has fantastic pickups, prototypes hand wound by Lindy Fralin himself. However, it is like I am really hearing them for the first time. Great mids and the sustain is freaking wild. I was popping Zakk squelies and hitting the tremelo and they went on forever. I can't wait to rip on this beast at practice on Sunday.

Robert thank you for turning me onto this product.
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Anytime Bruce and thanks to your efforts to give these folks here what they've needed to see and hear besides your full review that you'll be posting on your website.
This is the reason why I signed up here to enlighten the curious starting with Jolly.
His post is what I read on google asking can anyone tell him about these rock blocks since the press release Floyd Rose produced told him nothing about the product...

Guitar amplifiers can only deliver what is sent to it meaning the signal path from the guitar has to be fair to significant otherwise your going to be dominantly dependent on the gadget farm (effects) to boost your signal path to your amp so your tone has some girth, ie compressor, eq, bbe and so on, these effects are cool as a aftertouch, even though the majority of guitars signal path are minimal at best plugged straight in the amp etc.

This is where Stone Tone comes in the picture, having Stonetone incorporated into your signal path whether it is a Rock Block or internal Modification, Bass or guitar help retain all the players dynamic and nuances while improving the signal path producing more girth and even note articulation across the entire audio spectrum of the fretboard so you don't have to rely on triple gain stage tricked out radical amps to deliver a “generic tone” from what should come natural from your guitar than be dominantly colored with all the gadgets which takes away from the initial tone of the guitar..

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This internal blocks for a tuneamatic bridge stud posts that gets embedded internal and can be used as a string block or tremolo stud block, pick up block and then connect them all together which will couple the energies of all the components and top it off by doing a nut (non Floyd) These internal blocks throw so much information in to the body that you wont believe it until you try a guitar thats been modded this way of how much this improves the tone, response and feel of the instrument. :friday: Cheers !!
 
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Oh man the results look smooth.

Stonebone robby ma man what would it cost me to get a schaller ofr block delivered to aus?
 
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Securb said:
I don't get what we are doing here? What is the purpose?
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I repeatedly find that, on electric guitars with a two pivot fulcrum vibrato bridge, picking harmonics above the fifth fret and then selecting the neck position single coil-sized pickup causes those harmonics to disappear - even though they can still be heard acoustically directly from the strings.

This can be demonstrated on Floyds, Schaller, American Standard and Deluxe Fenders, some Wilkinson VS models. Traditional pickups, EMG, Blackouts, Lace Sensor, makes no difference. It is something to do with the two pivot arrangement.

It was my hope that the StoneTone block might alleviate this issue.

Securb said:
If I did get what you are getting at, I have 17 guitars and only one with single coils.
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Which is why you cannot be expected to understand. Not to worry.
 
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kramersteen said:
Oh man the results look smooth.

Stonebone robby ma man what would it cost me to get a schaller ofr block delivered to aus?
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Of all the OFR Schaller blocks we manufacture only 1 style had the head of the screw shallower than the typical #10 hardware we use so I had to mill down the head .030 so the screws flush mount.
In order to be sure you don't have that type of Schaller you would need to remove the saddles and email or here some pictures so I could see what the hardware looks like to ensure a smooth & quick install.

Also, For all SD members will get a 15% discount.

PM or email for details.
Thank you.
 
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I think I like the idea after all. All my Floyds have big brass blocks- insanely better than zinc, which only sucks the life out of the guitar, but it seesm brass , although I love it, would ring more, imparting its own character, wheres the stone would be neutral allowing more of the woody sound to reverberate. Thats totally unscientific . I think I'll end up getting one.
 
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I repeatedly find that, on electric guitars with a two pivot fulcrum vibrato bridge, picking harmonics above the fifth fret and then selecting the neck position single coil-sized pickup causes those harmonics to disappear - even though they can still be heard acoustically directly from the strings.
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Tell that to this guy ;)
 
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With respect, his neck position pickup is not directly under the node point.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to do this review Securb, and based on the recorded files, it looks like the Stonetone definitely adds a lot of sustain and harmonic content, and you said that you were happy with the tones through the amp, that's enough for me. Don't know if I will order one, maybe after catching up taxes, but definitely thinking about it.
 
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I agree with Devastone. As usual... Im excited to have the documented proof, but the biggest thing for me is your impression as it is coming from an unendorsed, unbiased source.

I really would like to have your opinion/comparison tween the stonetone and the big brass tho. As I said previously, Im a HUGE believer in the benefit of the large blocks and have already spent a pile of cash upgrading all my (too many) guitars to brass. So, I really need to know there is going to be further improvement before considering further cash outlay. Especially now that things are very tight.

Robert, I for one appreciate you offering a discount.. We have big mouths around here and Im sure you know many of us are on multi forums. So it'll help word get around.. But Im sure you already know that... ; )
 
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Robert, Got an advertising slogan for you for Tshirts.. Ive got big Stones... And then your logo underneath. Id wear one.. haha Feel free to sent me a block or 10 if you use it.. : )
 
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BloodRose said:
I agree with Devastone. As usual... Im excited to have the documented proof, but the biggest thing for me is your impression as it is coming from an unendorsed, unbiased source.

I really would like to have your opinion/comparison tween the stonetone and the big brass tho. As I said previously, Im a HUGE believer in the benefit of the large blocks and have already spent a pile of cash upgrading all my (too many) guitars to brass. So, I really need to know there is going to be further improvement before considering further cash outlay. Especially now that things are very tight.

Robert, I for one appreciate you offering a discount.. We have big mouths around here and Im sure you know many of us are on multi forums. So it'll help word get around.. But Im sure you already know that... ; )
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I don't think it's an "improvement " from brass. Like I said, the Brass will rings like a bell, and the stone will be neutral. The stone IME, will allow more of the natural guitar woody sound to emerge it seems like .Not like Zinc , which to anybody in their right mind sounds absolutely hideous-muting any and all tonal complexity.
In other words, do not give up brass, only supplement other guitars with the stone?
 
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masta' c said:
I'm suggesting that, with the granite and soft lead inserts, it's possible that you are seeing less "noise" being first generated and then reciprocated from the block/springs/spring claw elements and that, therefore, more of the picking/strumming energy imparted by the player is being actively transferred into the bridge/body/neck, increasing the unplugged volume of the guitar, as well as the clarity of the notes picked up by the pickups.

I actually suspect an increase in sustain because of reduction in stray resonance/harmonics, not a decrease.
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I think I wrote explicitly that those harmonics coming back to the string are what kills sustain. Kind of agree overall. I have one objection tho, energy transferred to the bridge, even if not in a destructive manner, will still be energy lost from the strings.
 
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Securb said:
I just gave the guitar a rip through the Marshall and I can't wipe the grin off my face. The response and harmonics are wild. This guitar has fantastic pickups, prototypes hand wound by Lindy Fralin himself. However, it is like I am really hearing them for the first time. Great mids and the sustain is freaking wild. I was popping Zakk squelies and hitting the tremelo and they went on forever. I can't wait to rip on this beast at practice on Sunday.

Robert thank you for turning me onto this product.
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Thank you! We are waiting for the full review!
 
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