vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
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My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
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vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Yes it is possible to mod the WIndsor into a JCM 800 clone. Initially I thought may be I should do the same thing. This is exactly why I went comparing the two. After doing so I thought that the Windsor is close enough and good enough the way it is. But I understand what you want to do and I respect that. I did quite a lot of modding myself.
Yes it is possible to mod the WIndsor into a JCM 800 clone. Initially I thought may be I should do the same thing. This is exactly why I went comparing the two. After doing so I thought that the Windsor is close enough and good enough the way it is. But I understand what you want to do and I respect that. I did quite a lot of modding myself.
vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
I have no commercial interest in the Windsors whatsoever. If that's what you are implying.
I am just trying to understand the point of this thread which is "you will hate the Windsor if you expect it too sound like a Marshall". I love Marshalls, but I just don't see how this fact should make me hate the Windsor. I mean hate is a pretty strong feeling, what causes it here? I personally believe that in terms of tone the Windsor is right up there with some of the best Marshalls. I have given some evidence too.
I am sure that the Metaltronix M-1000 is a great amp. I heard good things about it. I heard that one just has to know how to dial it in correctly. The same thing is true about the Windsor. It is so easy to make it sound like a_ss and it takes experience and knowledge to make it sound good. The key is keeping the preamp volume low and the master volume dimed.
I have no commercial interest in the Windsors whatsoever. If that's what you are implying.
I am just trying to understand the point of this thread which is "you will hate the Windsor if you expect it too sound like a Marshall". I love Marshalls, but I just don't see how this fact should make me hate the Windsor. I mean hate is a pretty strong feeling, what causes it here? I personally believe that in terms of tone the Windsor is right up there with some of the best Marshalls. I have given some evidence too.
I am sure that the Metaltronix M-1000 is a great amp. I heard good things about it. I heard that one just has to know how to dial it in correctly. The same thing is true about the Windsor. It is so easy to make it sound like a_ss and it takes experience and knowledge to make it sound good. The key is keeping the preamp volume low and the master volume dimed.
JeffB
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
This thread has gone stupid. But the above is a real WTF moment for me. You should probably play a few Marshalls first before talking about them on the interwebz.
This thread has gone stupid. But the above is a real WTF moment for me. You should probably play a few Marshalls first before talking about them on the interwebz.
Securb
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Yeah that comment blew my mind also.
Marshall still makes the DSL it wasn't replaced by the Vintage Modern. If Marshall discontinuing an amp or changing design is a sign of failure why are we still talking about the Super Lead, Plexi and JCM 800. Yeah I know they have reissues but I guess these amps were not "exactly what the manual says"
Yeah that comment blew my mind also.
Marshall still makes the DSL it wasn't replaced by the Vintage Modern. If Marshall discontinuing an amp or changing design is a sign of failure why are we still talking about the Super Lead, Plexi and JCM 800. Yeah I know they have reissues but I guess these amps were not "exactly what the manual says"
vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Why rather than giving a rational answer to a simple direct question people just resort to personal attacks?
I don't need you to school me about Marshalls. I owned quite a few, I do own a DSL and I played dozens of other Marshalls including Plexis and JCM 800s. I think that in reality things get stupid when people say that DSL's classic channel is identical to Plexy or JCM 800. There are similarities, but the signal chain is completely different and more importantly - transformers are completely different...
Why rather than giving a rational answer to a simple direct question people just resort to personal attacks?
I don't need you to school me about Marshalls. I owned quite a few, I do own a DSL and I played dozens of other Marshalls including Plexis and JCM 800s. I think that in reality things get stupid when people say that DSL's classic channel is identical to Plexy or JCM 800. There are similarities, but the signal chain is completely different and more importantly - transformers are completely different...
Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
The evidence you have given is of so low quality that any differences between 2 amps would be lost. If you cannot hear the difference between a good recorded youtube demo and a bad one, Iam sorry but then i must also question if you can tell the difference between a great amp and a ok one.
The evidence you have given is of so low quality that any differences between 2 amps would be lost. If you cannot hear the difference between a good recorded youtube demo and a bad one, Iam sorry but then i must also question if you can tell the difference between a great amp and a ok one.
Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
What you talking about willis? Signal chain? Guitar-cable-amp-cabinet?
Or do you mean signal path?
But all this is neither here nor there we are talking about the windsor not whether people say DSL's sound like Plexis or not.
What you talking about willis? Signal chain? Guitar-cable-amp-cabinet?
Or do you mean signal path?
But all this is neither here nor there we are talking about the windsor not whether people say DSL's sound like Plexis or not.
Securb
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Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Yeah can we get a clarification on that point. Did you just play a DSL or do you own an amp that in your words "openly sucked" These statements to me sound like you dont actually own a DSL... so why did you say that you do?
Yeah can we get a clarification on that point. Did you just play a DSL or do you own an amp that in your words "openly sucked" These statements to me sound like you dont actually own a DSL... so why did you say that you do?
vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Usual nonsense and no substance from so many posters.
Apart from owning a DSl I also modded it. Here is a thread about modding a DSL from a few yes back:http://www.marshallforum.com/showthread.php?t=53683
Some might still find it useful. I still have the same nickname - vivanchenko
Usual nonsense and no substance from so many posters.
Apart from owning a DSl I also modded it. Here is a thread about modding a DSL from a few yes back:http://www.marshallforum.com/showthread.php?t=53683
Some might still find it useful. I still have the same nickname - vivanchenko
JeffB
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
I had the 65 briefly about 10 years ago. I set the amp up for just a touch of gain and ran a Guvnor II into it and it sounded fantastic.
/tangent
My VS100 can not only make any sound ever produced by a JCM800, a DSL or a Vintage Modern, but it can smoke ANY tone the Windsor can produce.
I mean, as long as we are saying stupid things….
I had the 65 briefly about 10 years ago. I set the amp up for just a touch of gain and ran a Guvnor II into it and it sounded fantastic.
/tangent
Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Yes I know... Iam familiar with you on Marshall forum. You make some very interesting DSL comments over there.
Yes I know... Iam familiar with you on Marshall forum. You make some very interesting DSL comments over there.
vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
And I am not answering any questions unrelated to the point of the thread which is why exactly one will hate the Windsor if he expects it to sound like a Marshall. Something even remotely coherent and reasonable will do. Once I get the answer I am ready to answer any other questions.
And I am not answering any questions unrelated to the point of the thread which is why exactly one will hate the Windsor if he expects it to sound like a Marshall. Something even remotely coherent and reasonable will do. Once I get the answer I am ready to answer any other questions.
Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
BTW why do you refuse to comment on the quality if your "evidence" video?
I have brought this up a couple of times and you just dodge it. Is your position that the sound quality in that video is good?
BTW why do you refuse to comment on the quality if your "evidence" video?
I have brought this up a couple of times and you just dodge it. Is your position that the sound quality in that video is good?
Edgecrusher
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
The point the OP of this thread made was that it gets touted by many people as being "modded JCM800 marshall" like and given a set of expectations that it doesnt live up to.
Its his opinion and hes entitled to it. He doenst owe you an answer. Hes already stated it.
The point the OP of this thread made was that it gets touted by many people as being "modded JCM800 marshall" like and given a set of expectations that it doesnt live up to.
Its his opinion and hes entitled to it. He doenst owe you an answer. Hes already stated it.
vivanchenko
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Re: My take on the Peavey Windsor head...
Here is a quote from my #38 in this thread: "The DSL is a great, legendary amp in its own right. I played many of them, including the JCM 2000, and I own a DSL 15 head". But a plexi it ain't.
Here is a quote from my #38 in this thread: "The DSL is a great, legendary amp in its own right. I played many of them, including the JCM 2000, and I own a DSL 15 head". But a plexi it ain't.
