"Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

[Domolo]

Hallo everybodies,
I got an SH-55B, the bridge unit, that has work in a fabulous way in the past years to rock and roll my solid body... It's really great to play classic rock tune...

Now, the rock years have gone and I play mostly acoustic guitar, unplugged.
Recently I start to think about an hollow body to play some jazz standard: Attila Zoller, Pat Metheny, Joe Pass, and so...

I don't want to spend a lot of money in a jazz box... Something like an Epiphone Zephyr Regent would fit my needing, I've give a look at entry level hollow bodies and I find that the cheap boxes use ceramic pick-up, and I'm asking myself if the SH-55 could be used in the neck position of an hollow body to have a brown jazzy sound...

In the specific of the Seth Lover model I found that the peak frequency is around 6Khz and a DC resistance of 8 Kohm... And those values are really close to the ones in the PAF model that Seymour has created for the Jazz guitars (please, look at the Benedetto pick up page), but the PAF has a AlNiCo V magnet while the SH has an AlNiCo II magnet...

The neck model of the Seth Lover has less turns so it will sound less bassy... But for a jazz use this shouldn't be a problem, or not? Also the little more output of the bridge unit could let me put the pick-up a little lower to obtain a nice acousting feeling
What do you think? I'm going totally wrong?

I've tried in the past also DiMarzio, Jackson and Fender Pick-ups but I've always prefer the Duncan sound, so no one of the other microphones I got will suit my hear as the Duncan would...
There's something wrong with my idea? What should I expect from the SH-55b in the neck position?

PS Excuse my poor english... I'm italian and I should practice a little more your language...

 

[blueman335]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

Any PAF HB can be used in the bridge or neck position. The original 1950's PAF's varied in their winds, resistence, and magnets, and weren't designated for bridge or neck. Where bridge PU's aren't likely to work in the neck slot are when they're very overwound; a 14,000 ohm Custom Custom is not going make people happy in the neck postition.

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

While Blueman is right, something like a Seth Lover bridge can generally work as a neck pickup, if you're getting a true archtop, you might want to stick with the neck version. That big hollow body will provide all the jazz brown-ness you could ever want. Something in the low 7's or even high 6's would be best, or even a minihumbucker (very popular on archtops) if possible.

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

If you already have it, it's worth a try. Personally, I liked the Seth b in my LP, but a big jazz box and a LP have very different properties.

 

[uOpt]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

In most Seth sets the neck and bridge are very close in wind anyway.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

Hallo everybodies,
I got an SH-55B, the bridge unit, that has work in a fabulous way in the past years to rock and roll my solid body... It's really great to play classic rock tune...

Now, the rock years have gone and I play mostly acoustic guitar, unplugged.
Recently I start to think about an hollow body to play some jazz standard: Attila Zoller, Pat Metheny, Joe Pass, and so...

I don't want to spend a lot of money in a jazz box... Something like an Epiphone Zephyr Regent would fit my needing, I've give a look at entry level hollow bodies and I find that the cheap boxes use ceramic pick-up, and I'm asking myself if the SH-55 could be used in the neck position of an hollow body to have a brown jazzy sound...

In the specific of the Seth Lover model I found that the peak frequency is around 6Khz and a DC resistance of 8 Kohm... And those values are really close to the ones in the PAF model that Seymour has created for the Jazz guitars (please, look at the Benedetto pick up page), but the PAF has a AlNiCo V magnet while the SH has an AlNiCo II magnet...

The neck model of the Seth Lover has less turns so it will sound less bassy... But for a jazz use this shouldn't be a problem, or not? Also the little more output of the bridge unit could let me put the pick-up a little lower to obtain a nice acousting feeling
What do you think? I'm going totally wrong?

I've tried in the past also DiMarzio, Jackson and Fender Pick-ups but I've always prefer the Duncan sound, so no one of the other microphones I got will suit my hear as the Duncan would...
There's something wrong with my idea? What should I expect from the SH-55b in the neck position?

PS Excuse my poor english... I'm italian and I should practice a little more your language...

Ciao Domolo,

I've been known for using bridge p'ups in the neck position, I've started with a Jazz bridge, then a '59b. In both cases they were very good paired with a Custom 5 and a Custom 8.

For us who suffer for a mild form of compulsive obsessive disorder, polepiece spacing is a bit off, but the balance of volume between strings is ok.

Having said that, in my guitars I now have both the JazzN and the '59n on the neck position, both with an A4 magnet. Looks like Seymour really did know what he was doing whe he designed both sets. :notworthy:

HTH,

 

[robertkoa]

Re: "Necking" a bridge Seth Lover SH-55, any opinion?

None of this seems to address the fact that so many Jazzers ( which I overlap into in some Contemporary R&B Stuff) ..
But I need a lot of Bass Response to get a good Semi Hollow into near ES 175 Territory , hopefully.

So which one has the Phattest Bass Response and a slightly muted top end ?

I like my Pickups far from the strings for pick versatility soft to hard with O or very little pick noise...

12 K sounds like a lot of output...
But far away it might work and the Single Coil might be good.

Actually I'd like mismatched coils one at
7.2 k and one at 4.8 ..and the 7.2K for the Single Coil.