NGD Agile 3100 Review..Agile Vs. Gibson Les Paul

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MetalManiac

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Okay folkwulfs . As the proud owner of a new Agile 3100 bought off an esteemed forum colleague, I want to throw out some initial obserbations;
First of all, as the owner of two Les Pauls Gibsons, I might have some basis for opinion.

I had heard about these Agiles and was very curious to attain one. I knew that people on the Agile forum claiming to have Gibson Les Pauls and saying the Agiles were better , or even just as good, was a huge load of bull. Now I am exonerated.
The Agile is an impressive beast..no doubt, and I have zero regrets buying it.
It has a nice looking finish, a straight neck, a rather good Ebony fingerboard and good Grover tuners. I'm not going into huge detail about its accoutrements, because if you are considering an Agile you may already know, and if not the infirmation is readily available.
But, I want o get right to it..its a cheap guitar, make no mistake about it. it doesn't hold a candle to a Gibson Les paul. The thing I like about it is its probably close to a Norlin, one of the ****ty heavy Norlins everyone loves to rag on ..and it IS ball busting heavy-over 10 pounds of Grade C "mahogany" wood ;THAT I like about it!

If you read the details about the Agile, they rave about the fretwork. The fretqwork is total sh@t. I don't care , although i was a littel surprised just how bad it is, even compared to my Korean Zakk Wilde Epi. I know a thing or two about set ups, and i adjusted the truss rod, adn everything, but this Agile need major fret work, and thats allright, cause I have a great tech who can make this work, but I mean, hey.."as good as a Gibson"..come the **** on!

But the sound is mediocre compared to my Gibson Lesters, even with some real good pickups that are in the Agile ( Duncan APII's). Flat dull ..lifeless..like a NORLIN!! I love it!
( but trust me, i know full well some Norlins are magic..and some are definitely NOT magic..this one is like a Norlin that definitely is NOT magic..lol).

So my plan is to put a Dimarzio SuperD inthe bridge and a PAF in the neck to have me a Ace Frehley guitar. It'll also free up my real Lester for a Duncan bridge Seth and a 57 classic neck.

After I get my great Tech to level out those supposedly wonderfull frets, and not everyone can do it right , so I'm blessed, I'll have a great axe.
By the way, they advertise the frets as "Jumbos",but they are just Gibson Jumbos, if that....fairly disappointing. The radius is advertised as flatter than a Gibson,,doesn't matter, the thing chokes out badly on any marginally deep bends up the neck., but like i said, my tech can fix that screw up.

All in all my Korean Epiphone Zakk Wylde is a substantially better guitar ,although that one also needed fretwork, but sounds better and feels better ..

Take a look at the picture of the headstock. The way the neck is shaved on the Agile is typical of cheaper Les Pauls more rudimenatary than a real Les Paul.

All in all, worth every penny, but not much more. I think it'd be a good guitar for Phat Cats, or Distortion pickups.
I wouldn't waste money with good low output pickups like Seths on this.

All in all, the jokers on the Agile forum claiming these are basically Real Gibson Les Pauls for a fraction of the cost are F***'ed.

Make no mistake about it though, for the cost, I dig this this thing!! Would I but another one?..I don't think so.Maybe..I need a heavy ass P90 guitar.





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Guitar-wise? Nah. I really dig it all. Once you like guitars that look like they can be in a gay pride parade, liking the rest comes pretty easy. :D
 
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I was hoping you'd give a review once you got the Agile. What you wrote is what I pretty much expected was the real truth.
 
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Hmm, I'm very surprised by that review...maybe there was a reason the seller was selling it? Perhaps it was a lemon? I have only owned one agile (3000) and it was far better out of the box (except pickups) than any Gibson Les Paul I have had. It destroys any Gibson studio or classic I have ever seen that's for sure, and it costs $700 less than those. I'm really betting that you just got a bad lemon or something and that's why it was being sold. Afterall, Gibson has horrible quality control and sends out lemons as well.
 
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I'm not the best judge of fretwork, so forgive me, I really didn't think it was that bad. As noted in another thread, I did have the action higher, and that worked for me.

I hope some minor fretwork gets it to be a great player for you. All the best and thanks again.
 
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Jerry mentioned that he wanted me to play the guitar to get my opinion of it (we live only about an hour away from each other). I'm curious to get my hands on it, and I'll be posting my little review in the next week or so.
 
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All the guitars are pretty.

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I've had my agile 3000 for 6 months now I've had none of these problems. My fretwork is really nice and it has never fretted out on me like you say yours does. My strat frets out all over and the action on my agile is much lower.

As for the tone I laughed when you described it as dull and lifeless. It's the complete opposite. I mean sure it's not as Good as a Gibson LP, however these can easily compare to LP studios, and they look much better.

I bet if you got a 3000m or whatever model has the thick maple cap they could come really close to gibsons for a fraction if the cost.
 
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I'm not wading into this, because I think that expectations and personal validation fuel a lot of the opinions on both sides of this issue, but I do want to point out that the 3100 is essentially identical to the 3000 you mention, but with MoP inlays instead of abalone.

So he's already playing a model of the caliber you're saying would make all the difference.

I bet if you got a 3000m or whatever model has the thick maple cap they could come really close to gibsons for a fraction if the cost.
 
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Hmm, I'm very surprised by that review...maybe there was a reason the seller was selling it? Perhaps it was a lemon? I have only owned one agile (3000) and it was far better out of the box (except pickups) than any Gibson Les Paul I have had. It destroys any Gibson studio or classic I have ever seen that's for sure, and it costs $700 less than those. I'm really betting that you just got a bad lemon or something and that's why it was being sold. Afterall, Gibson has horrible quality control and sends out lemons as well.

 
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Im VERY suprised by your review. I concur that it sounds like you got a bad one.
Now, Let me say that Ive not played one and yes, I also have some reservations that these are "as good or better than a Gibson" as many state, but Ive read hundreds of reviews of the Agiles and almost never have heard of dead guitar or poor fretwork, except a few that were sent back and Kurt quickly replaced. (you'll have duds with every brand) I also am mature enough to read the reviews with an open mind, but I read many were seasoned players find them good enough to gig with and to leave the gibsons at home..
Sounds like you have a keeper in the end, but needed alittle stimulation.
 
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Im VERY suprised by your review. I concur that it sounds like you got a bad one.
Now, Let me say that Ive not played one and yes, I also have some reservations that these are "as good or better than a Gibson" as many state, but Ive read hundreds of reviews of the Agiles and almost never have heard of dead guitar or poor fretwork, except a few that were sent back and Kurt quickly replaced. (you'll have duds with every brand) I also am mature enough to read the reviews with an open mind, but I read many were seasoned players find them good enough to gig with and to leave the gibsons at home..
Sounds like you have a keeper in the end, but needed alittle stimulation.

I doubt seriously I got a "bad" one. The neck is straight and the trussrod works. If you do extreme bends high on the neck, it begins to expose deficiencies in the fretwork. I expected as much.
I did not expect it to sound or play like a real Les Paul, and it doesn't.
That said, it sounds good. I was comparing to the glorious sound of a Les Paul Standard, and yes, it falls short.
What I did expect was an immediate rebuttal by some guy with a 500.00 guitar that WANTS to believe he had a Standard Gibson quality instrument,,very badly.
I'm sorry.

For one, you've got to realize that the Gibson Finish is one of the most expensive parts of the guitar. Its a 12 step process, and thats why Gibsons without the finish are so much cheaper.
The Agile is bathed in a thick plasticy finish.
The Gibson Nitro finish is a substantial part of the tone.
I already mentioned the neck joint.

The neck fretboard is pretty nice, and a good grade of Ebony, and thats huge plus.
Again, I want to mention this is going to be a very good guitar..a Standard Les Paul?..No.

At the end of the day , it's important to remember I do like the guitar. Yeah, its a very good value. With a little work it'll be just what I wanted. Mine is Korean. I wouldn't buy a Chinese one, although i have no idea..they might be just as good.
 
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I've tried several agiles. All of the Les Paul variants were before they changed their headstock due to their fear of a Gibson lawsuit and all were their higher models.

While they were great guitars, Gibsons they were not. As MM has said, the fretwork is pretty shotty on each one I've ever picked up (count is up to 5 now). The pickups are bland. They're good guitars for the money, but to be honest, I've played Epiphones that play and sound better. I had an Epiphone G400 that the neck felt 10 times better. I've kinda held out on commenting about the Agiles too much because a lot of people have a lot of love for them on this forum, but I just don't see it.

I've tried to give all of the "great for the money" guitars a shot, and I've owned a Gibson Les Paul Studio, Classic, Standard, ES-135, ES-137, and an SG and every single one of the Gibsons has been exponentially better than any Agile, SX, Squire, Stagg, First Act, Epiphone, low end Schecter, Ibanez, etc.

Personally, I don't understand the guys that have like 6 or 7 low dollar guitars. I can't play them anymore. I play my Gibsons and my Fenders. Even the Gibson dogs I've played sound and play better than the best of the cheap stuff I've played. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to it. Anyway, just my .02
 
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Really, though. I'm so sick of these debates. I've seen all three or four sides to it. I was there for the colonoscopy that cold morning back in February. I've seen it in different forms, with different brands, with different forum members, different levels of dumbassery, personal attacks, back-pedaling, wanking, waffling, and all manner of sanitary napkin references.

Hence, all the guitars are pretty.

Now go play 'em. Or at least swap pickups in 'em, 'cause that's a lot less bloody.

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