NGD! Pacifica 510V

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So far I really like the P rail pickup. Just having trouble getting the dang G string to come back in tune with light trem use.
 
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T-Bone-BBQ said:
Just having trouble getting the dang G string to come back in tune with light trem use.
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That's a shame to hear man! Those Wilkinson trems should keep pitch just fine! Is the G-string wound around the string post correctly and with as few turns as possible? Thinking about that because the problem only occurs on the G-string and that Wilkinson is a very good trem-system.
It must be an annoying problem, I hope it gets out of the way soon and stays in tune like it's supposed to!
 
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It's not the trem that's the problem I think it's the nut. Had it filed by my guitar tech and it's much better, but still not right. I've lubed the nut and string tees, but it still sticks some. The Wilkinson trem is fantastic and smooth. The problem isn't there.
 
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T-Bone-BBQ said:
It's not the trem that's the problem I think it's the nut. Had it filed by my guitar tech and it's much better, but still not right. I've lubed the nut and string tees, but it still sticks some. The Wilkinson trem is fantastic and smooth. The problem isn't there.
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That's what I thought, those Wilkinsons are close to sublime in my opinion. Maybe it would be a good thing just to change the nut? A GraphTech does not cost much at all, and your guitar would surely benefit from it. Should add tuning stability!
http://www.graphtech.com/products/product-categories/nuts
 
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T-Bone-BBQ said:
It's not the trem that's the problem I think it's the nut. Had it filed by my guitar tech and it's much better, but still not right. I've lubed the nut and string tees, but it still sticks some. The Wilkinson trem is fantastic and smooth. The problem isn't there.
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How sensitive the tuner of G string is? It seems that it's usually the fastest to turn out of pitch when tuning. If there's play in tuners, it may go out of tune much more easily than other strings because of that sensitivity.

If it was any other string, I'd say that problem to be in the nut. But what little experience I have, G string going out of tune would indicate tuners rather than the nut or string trees.

Just my thoughts about the issue, I'm not a professional with this...
 
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It has Grover locking tuners that are really smooth. 18:1 ratio I think. I believe the guitar has a tusq nut, so it's not a cheap plastic nut. I may have to try a Graphtech nut.
 
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T-Bone-BBQ said:
I believe the guitar has a tusq nut, so it's not a cheap plastic nut. I may have to try a Graphtech nut.
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I just checked the specs of your 510V and it seems to come standard with a GraphTech Black Tusq XL nut... Those Black Tusq nuts are the best GraphTech offers towards tuning stability, they are really good! Combined with the Grover locking tuners and the Wilkinson VS50 trem, tuning shouldn't be a problem at all... Really strange you have tuning issues... If you bought it new I would return it to the shop and have them take a look at it, because with that hardware, tuning issues should not occur!
 
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T-Bone-BBQ said:
It has Grover locking tuners that are really smooth. 18:1 ratio I think. I believe the guitar has a tusq nut, so it's not a cheap plastic nut. I may have to try a Graphtech nut.
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In case it wasn't made clear in earlier posts, the Tusq nut your guitar already has and the Graphtech not you're thinking of swapping to are literally the same thing.

My first guess for this type of tuning problem would also be the nut. Since you seem to have eliminated that, insure that the string trees aren't binding in some way.
 
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Bought the guitar used. I've lubed up the nut and string tees. I might take the string tee for the G string off and make sure it doesn't have a bad groove or something, but the guitar was like new with no wear on it. The string tees on it are made of the same material as the nut.
 
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A Tusq nut alone won't solve issues with binding at the nut. I've found this out multiple times with multiple guitars.

The nut still needs to be cut properly. A few passes with a nut file (or having a luthier do it) might do the trick.
 
Re: NGD! Pacifica 510V

stratguy23 said:
A Tusq nut alone won't solve issues with binding at the nut. I've found this out multiple times with multiple guitars.

The nut still needs to be cut properly. A few passes with a nut file (or having a luthier do it) might do the trick.
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I don't have the proper files and I did take it to a guitar tech who has worked on my other guitars and it's not been a problem. I do need to check under the string tees to make sure there's no issues. It could be binding there for some reason.
 
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Sweet! I really don't need guitar GAS right now, but that one does it.
 
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Found the cause for the tuning problem this morning. I took the graphtech string tee for the D and G strings off and the side for the G string has a nasty looking groove in it that I'm sure is binding the string. After taking that string tee off I tried using the trem and it stayed in tune really well. The D string was never a problem and the string tee on that side is fine. Now I need to get a new string tee for that side.
 
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Glad to know you have found the problem T-bone-BBQ!! I was really wondering what could cause tuning issues with hardwire as good as your Pacifica has! I hope you can find a GraphTech string tee to replace the grooved one with!
 
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I'm going to order a new set of Graph Tech Tusq XL string trees, but for now I'll leave that one off. My "cheaper" Pacifica guitars only have the string tree on the B and high E strings and it's never been an issue. I'll replace it when I get the new ones in and if for some reason it's still a problem I'll just take it out and leave it out. I think it'll be fine once I get a new one in tho.
 
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Forgot I had a small round needle file, so when I got home I filed that bad side on the string tree. I put it back on the guitar and BOOM it works great!
 
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