Peavey Windsor

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Edgecrusher said:
Do they make anything stateside now? I know after the undercover boss thing I would definitely think twice before I gave them any of my money.
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I'm 99.9% sure that the 6505 series is still US made. Other than that I can't say with any certainty.

I did find this, but this was a couple years ago.

http://peavey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21145

I think the Windsor may NEVER have been made in the US.

That said, I'd gig my Bugera 1960 Infinium, and I think Peavey stuff is generally better build-wise than Bugera, even their MIC stuff.
 
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Wormhelmet said:
Not trying to muddy any waters but all you have said is just opinion and guesswork. If you don't like Peavey and have certain standards for build quality in your own purchases fine, but I don't have the same opinions of the products as you. I think buying a second one for cheap would still be a better solution than touring with one expensive amp and relying on just that. Marshalls are not immune from issues.
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What i have stated about the build quality is not opinion or guesswork. I have actually had a windsor open on a bench and retubed and done a minor mod on it. The size of the boards and way the tubes mount are not opinion.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
What i have stated about the build quality is not opinion or guesswork. I have actually had a windsor open on a bench and retubed and done a minor mod on it. The size of the boards and way the tubes mount are not opinion.
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Your predictions on lasting through touring is all guesswork. Because you have had one Peavey Windsor you retubed and modded does not make you any kind of expert or authority on longevity of a model of amp. So yes, opinion and guesswork. My newer car has thinner metal than my old classic. Doesn't mean the newer one won't last as long. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of Marshall's with thicker boards running into issues still.

Incidentally, the 6505's are now made overseas too. I think the only stateside build is from the custom shop.

They have standards on build for 6505 and adhere to ISO 9000 standards. Just because it is made overseas does not make it bad. It is the care in QC at multiple spots in manufacture that will ensure a good product still.

Doesn't matter though as most will immediately lump into the China build = junk stereotype that is just not true for a lot of products as long as QC is good through the process.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
Sorry but there is a vast difference between a piece of gear that can handle a being hauled to choir practice and one that can handle being a piece of back line kit. Can they do it? sure but not for as long and when problems happen they will be larger.

Basically you agreed with me. Oh its perfect for a college kid. So then no its not pro level gear and the build quality is lower
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I've never disagreed with you. It's a good head for the price, but it's not something that I would take on the road for a touring level musician. If I'm at the touring level, I would buy a good head and I'm pretty sure that because it's used as a source of income, I could write it off on my taxes as a business expense.
 
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Good head for the price? You mean for $200??? Sorry, this statement is just stupid. It is just a good head regardless of price and it is more reliable than any of the Chinese Marshalls that I have seen. Never mind the ones made in India. And nobody seems to argue that tone wise the head is just as good as any Marshal is.
 
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And from what I have seen lately Chinese amps are getting better than the ones made in the UK. They make it of MIC parts anyway. Modern "made in the UK" sucks.
 
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vivanchenko said:
Good head for the price? You mean for $200??? Sorry, this statement is just stupid. It is just a good head regardless of price and it is more reliable than any of the Chinese Marshalls that I have seen. Never mind the ones made in India. And nobody seems to argue that tone wise the head is just as good as any Marshal is.
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I gotta ask because you're being pretty belligerent about this...have you toured with a Windsor? And why are you so hung up with the phrase "for the price". Just my opinion, but I don't think it's worth getting yer nuts all baked up over. If you've toured with this amp and you can personally say that you've experienced the quality, then cool. If not, then as an outsider to this conversation, I'd take Edgecrusher's opinion over yours because an experienced tech can look at how an amp is built and give an educated opinion as to whether it will take the beating of touring or not. I don't think he's saying that every Windsor ever built will break down on tour, but if you took ten original JCM 800s and ten Windsors and put them on tour, the Marshalls would have a better success rate as far as crapping out goes.

I've owned lots of Marshalls, and I've owned a couple of Peaveys, including my current Windsor and Valveking. I think they both sound great. I think the Windsor does an excellent late 70s, early 80s Marshall JMP/JCM impression, but not the modded 800. Now, this could just be my amp or the tubes or what have you, but we can all only truly comment on what we've personally experienced, or information we get from trusted friends or sources. I've had all my amps open at some point, and without a doubt, I'd rather tour with the Marshall. Not for the tone, but for dependability. I respect your opinions of these amp, and I'm not gonna try to change it, but I don't quite agree with it. I'm with you on how great it sounds, and that it is not a total piece of trash, but money IS relevant, and I think the amp is a steal for the prices it goes for. Closer to three bills where I am, but still an incredible bargain. IF that's the sound you want.
 
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Because "good for the price" is a very misleading statement in this case. This head is simply and unconditionaly good. Many people tour with Windsors and I am yet to see anyone saying that it fell apart on them.
 
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And speaking about touring - do you want to tour with Marshals with plastic corners? No, thanks, I will take a Windsor with metal corners.
 
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Eh, you're both kinda right. Windsors are an exceedingly good value, price/performance/ruggedness. They can sound very, very good.

They are more susceptible to some known issues stemming from the pcb mounted controls and tube sockets. Things that affect pretty much all Peavey amps, including the 5150/6505. I have an OG Butcher from 1985 that has toured and done hundreds of shows (and has the same construction design) that has never had any of these issues, so yeah, EC is overblowing these issues for sure, welcome to the internet. He is correct however that they do not compare favorably with the amps they are designed after, as far as ruggedness and dependability are concerned.

Whomever was propping Mesa PCB's is full of **** too.
 
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And speaking about PCB - yes, it is prone to issues, but so are modern high buck Marshalls. And Marshall PCBs are a lot more flimsy compared to what Peavey is doing.
 
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GilmourD said:
That said, I'd gig my Bugera 1960 Infinium, and I think Peavey stuff is generally better build-wise than Bugera, even their MIC stuff.
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Never said you couldn't gig a Windsor, I have repeatedly said that in the long run the reliability won't be as good. Theres a difference between an amp that can live for 3 or 4 years under hard use and one that can do it for 30
 
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vivanchenko said:
And nobody seems to argue that tone wise the head is just as good as any Marshal is.
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Nobody argues tone because it's completely subjective. at best the most you can say is in my opinion. Can you factually argue that a peavey Windsor sounds better than a Marshall or a fart in a phone booth? Mind you I said factually.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
Never said you couldn't gig a Windsor, I have repeatedly said that in the long run the reliability won't be as good. Theres a difference between an amp that can live for 3 or 4 years under hard use and one that can do it for 30
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Oh, I didn't think you said that. I understood you were talking more about longevity.

Edgecrusher said:
Nobody argues tone because it's completely subjective. at best the most you can say is in my opinion. Can you factually argue that a peavey Windsor sounds better than a Marshall or a fart in a phone booth? Mind you I said factually.
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Well, if Pete Thorn is the one farting in the phone booth it'll probably sound fantastic.

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