Relic'd guitars, Love them or hate them?

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I like the look of a well relic'd strat. I don't like it being relic'd to the point an inexperienced person would see it and say "wow, what the hell happened to that?"

The only guitars i'll leave sitting out are my strats because i think some bruising gives 'em character. A couple years ago, my sister knocked over my fav strat when i was out and i was lucky it only put a little ding in the headstock. I think my sister was surprised i didn't flip out given how i'm generally very protective of my stuff. It actually looks kinda cool.
 
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For me it depends on the guitar and the amount of relicing. Some are clearly overdone.


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That's some tough talking, but the reality is that no one here would own a guitar long enough or play it hard and frequent enough to put THAT kind of wear on a guitar of somewhat value or desirability.
Face it, we're talking 40 years MINIMUM and that's all while touring and gigging.

And even if it does earn those time lapsed battle scars, what are you going to do? Show it off to all the other senior citizens in your block while you stand there marveling it at the ripe ol' age of 70?

What are you going to do at a young age, show off your fake "battle scars" to your friends over Dominoes pizza whilst jamming on the couch and watching "Storage Wars" or perhaps "Naked and Afraid"? Yeah, those couch tours are rough on the finish......very silly to have a fake road warrior that never leaves your suburban home....

Fake Relics are lame AFAIC. Others like it, which is fine for them. I've had a couple of my guitars over 25 years now, and my primary amp is ~30 years old, although they are minty for their age in spite of lots of playing. I am not fanatical about keeping them pristine, but I wouldn't dream of fake BS "relic" treatment for any guitar personally.
 
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Its only 'lame' if the only reason your brain can come up with for having one is you want to fool someone into thinking you've put those marks into the guitar yourself.

Which goes for any guitar bought secondhand too. Do you own or have bought a secondhand guitar at any point in time.....if so, you are 'lame' as you put it yourself.

Hopefully you can expand your horizons enough to grasp that most people simply buy a relic simply because they like the look......just like vintage tint nitro, off white knobs, mint/cream pickguards etc are all elements of artificial aging now part of the look.
Oh, plus any burst finish on a LP that is not a cherryburst.
 
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Relics should be earned, not built...

That's some tough talking, but the reality is that no one here would own a guitar long enough or play it hard and frequent enough to put THAT kind of wear on a guitar of somewhat value or desirability.
Face it, we're talking 40 years MINIMUM and that's all while touring and gigging.

And even if it does earn those time lapsed battle scars, what are you going to do? Show it off to all the other senior citizens in your block while you stand there marveling it at the ripe ol' age of 70?

What are you going to do at a young age, show off your fake "battle scars" to your friends over Dominoes pizza whilst jamming on the couch and watching "Storage Wars" or perhaps "Naked and Afraid"? Yeah, those couch tours are rough on the finish......very silly to have a fake road warrior that never leaves your suburban home....

Fake Relics are lame AFAIC. Others like it, which is fine for them. I've had a couple of my guitars over 25 years now, and my primary amp is ~30 years old, although they are minty for their age in spite of lots of playing. I am not fanatical about keeping them pristine, but I wouldn't dream of fake BS "relic" treatment for any guitar personally.

As I stated in my earlier post, I'm not a fan of relic'd guitars but I really don't mind if other people are... I'll say it again, to each his own.

To me the wear and tear (real or not) should have some sort of personal story to it, or at least something that makes me identify with it. I'm not anal about my guitars, but I like to keep them looking nice... dings and scratches happen, and they're just proof of life!

I only have one guitar that shows excessive wear and tear, and I've told this story elsewhere on the forum, so I'll give the short version here. I bought my number one, a 1985 Westone Spectrum LX in 1988 and loved it. In 1995 it went through a house fire that charred the hell out of it and literally fried the electronics, but I couldn't bring myself to throw it away. In about 2004 I was telling its story to a fellow guitarist at church who is also a talented woodworker... he asked me if he could take it for a few months because he had an idea, but he wouldn't tell me what it was. About three months later he brought it back to me with clear epoxy OVER the char and discoloration, sanded to smooth perfection... VERY unique! It wasn't until a few years ago that I decided to attack replacing all the hardware and electronics, but I finally got my number one back (renamed "The Phoenix" after the mythical bird that rose from the ashes) and she gets a LOT of play now.


This one's not mine, but this is what it looked like when I bought her...
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...and here's how she looks today...
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Pickups after the fire...
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Pickups after upgrading...
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And some pics of the char under the epoxy...
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All these scars were EARNED and they have a very personal history for me and this guitar, but I would never DREAM of purposefully doing this in order to get a certain look!

Oh yeah, and I'm not quite ready for the senior citizen's home yet!
 
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Not my thing. I have dents and cracks and all kinds of things in my guitars, but that is because I use them. To me it is like a pickup truck. You can tell a seriously perfect pickup truck has never been used. You can tell a beat up one has. No one buys new beat up ones. Same as hammers.
 
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Just to reinforce the point, I've beat my two main fenders (MIA Deluxe body, MIM Jazz V) to hell and back and when I post pics here they look new. Poly simply doesn't age like older nitro. Had these guitars been 50's guitars they'd look like the relics and beat up guitars you see...

In fact here they are:


 
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Not my thing. I have dents and cracks and all kinds of things in my guitars, but that is because I use them. To me it is like a pickup truck. You can tell a seriously perfect pickup truck has never been used. You can tell a beat up one has. No one buys new beat up ones. Same as hammers.

Yep, this is another old chestnut too. How about an accurate analogy for a change....like this one:

Some like raw denim for their jeans, others like some distressing......stonewash and acidwash being the most common forms.
Luckily jeans wearers don't suffer from the levels of ignorance the guitar industry seems to do. You would find road-rage being ecliped by 'jeans rage' if that were the case.
 
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I hate those orange fake tint necks , soory. I have never in my life seen a real old Strat with an orange neck, and Ive seen plenty.Warmoth now has a more realistic tint to their necks, but the Reranch stuff is hideous orangey, ans my guess is that is what that is .
 
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Also, a beat to crap cheap guitar is not a relic, it's most likely junk.I have real tastefully reliced Strat, and it's a nice guitar.

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Relic'd guitars, Love them or hate them?

I hate those orange fake tint necks , soory. I have never in my life seen a real old Strat with an orange neck, and Ive seen plenty.Warmoth now has a more realistic tint to their necks, but the Reranch stuff is hideous orangey, ans my guess is that is what that is .

Also, a beat to crap cheap guitar is not a relic, it's most likely junk.I have real tastefully reliced Strat, and it's a nice guitar.

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Wow, Jerry... just "Wow!"

I guess this is where I apologize on behalf of PFD and myself for offending you with his hideous neck and my cheap piece of junk... [emoji20]


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No sir, rather I shoud apologize to you..I didn't mean to suggest your guitar was junk, and I don't think it is...although i do think it's more 'beat up', than "reliced", and thats what a see a lot of thrashed guitars claimed as being 'reliced', which i think is BS.I've seen lots of old Strats in good condition, and thats what a excellent relicing job tries to replicate,sometimes to great effect( which in general is totally different from a beat up thrashed guitar ), of course with the disclaimer- IMO.
 
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Relic'd guitars, Love them or hate them?

No sir, rather I shoud apologize to you..I didn't mean to suggest your guitar was junk, and I don't think it is...although i do think it's more 'beat up', than "reliced", and thats what a see a lot of thrashed guitars claimed as being 'reliced', which i think is BS.

Well there we can agree. It's definitely more beat up (and repaired)... in fact I wouldn't call it relic'd at all. I hope I didn't give the impression that I considered it relic'd because my intention was to show a guitar with real scars from real circumstances.

And I also appreciate that you have a relic'd Strat that you enjoy. The fact is that there are all sorts of guitar-related things out there which we all have different opinions of... it's one of the things about guitars that keeps it interesting!

Sorry for the misunderstanding... I still love you, ya know! [emoji7][emoji8]


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I like them. Poly guitars will always buff out and never age like nitro. Boring...

Plus I could never afford a real relic'd (think like Rory Gallagher or something) nitro guitar because they are over priced for what they are.

So I'm all about the relic'd guitars. They have more personality than some fancy shiny pieces out there.
 
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The pathetic thing is NOT about taste, but paying more to get your guitar vandalized.

Why not buy a regular and do your own damage. It's not that hard really, just a sandpaper (or battery acid/ paint remover if you are into the extreme), some sweat and cigarette ash.
 
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Personality of a copycat/ wanna be...to be exact.

I always find that people who can accept relics are way more open minded than those who don't.......the above quote being a prime example.
The same people seemingly cannot help but be snide and sarcastic. Its like they're unable to just say 'I don't like it but each to their own'

A bit pathetic really.
 
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