Relic'd guitars, Love them or hate them?
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It's just a poly finished Fender neck? :?:
Open lane
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I hate the people who try to tell other people relicing is stupid. I mean, ultimately it comes down to a preference of the owner. I made a question about having a les paul relic'd on fb the other day. A lot of people were calling me stupid. W/e. I'm generally not crazy about it but people don't need permission. And yes, i know this thread is just people expressing opinions and people just liking it or disliking it doesn't offend me.
I hate the people who try to tell other people relicing is stupid. I mean, ultimately it comes down to a preference of the owner. I made a question about having a les paul relic'd on fb the other day. A lot of people were calling me stupid. W/e. I'm generally not crazy about it but people don't need permission. And yes, i know this thread is just people expressing opinions and people just liking it or disliking it doesn't offend me.
frostopsy
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So anything with a strat body that isn't a Fender is a copycat, and anything that resembles a Les Paul without a Gibson label is a wannabe. Gotcha
So anything with a strat body that isn't a Fender is a copycat, and anything that resembles a Les Paul without a Gibson label is a wannabe. Gotcha
6stringerguy
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Relic'd guitars, Love them or hate them?
The only thing my guitars have is a sanded back neck simply because I prefer the feel and a few scratches and dents from use by myself and previous owners
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The only thing my guitars have is a sanded back neck simply because I prefer the feel and a few scratches and dents from use by myself and previous owners
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Obsessive Compulsive
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People don't need permission to take their own life either but you don't call suicide is personal preference...lol.
There is a general consensus to everything, that's what I'm saying.
People don't need permission to take their own life either but you don't call suicide is personal preference...lol.
There is a general consensus to everything, that's what I'm saying.
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I think I stated that it wasn't my thing. I didn't go that far to say that people who like them are stupid, too. I don't care if it is your thing.
I think I stated that it wasn't my thing. I didn't go that far to say that people who like them are stupid, too. I don't care if it is your thing.
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^ Thats fine. I get the 'not your thing' part of this argument....I really do. I don't get paper thin necks and active pickups myself, nor playing ultra fast with no feel. The last sentence was really directed to some of the other posters here who seem way more extreme in their own 'issues'
The analogy.....well I guess my point here is - nobody ever looks at cars and sees on old dinted rusted one and says 'man I can't wait until my new car looks old and battered like that'. Everyone likes a shiny car without all the dodgy stains on the upholstery even if the car itself is very old......unlike guitars where it looking old and battered is a viable desire.
So with the car, you are using an object which nobody ever wants to look anything else but pristine when old. The guitar is a wholly different scenario.
Which is why the analogy needs to be different. Like the jeans where the choices become similar in nature to guitars.
^ Thats fine. I get the 'not your thing' part of this argument....I really do. I don't get paper thin necks and active pickups myself, nor playing ultra fast with no feel. The last sentence was really directed to some of the other posters here who seem way more extreme in their own 'issues'
The analogy.....well I guess my point here is - nobody ever looks at cars and sees on old dinted rusted one and says 'man I can't wait until my new car looks old and battered like that'. Everyone likes a shiny car without all the dodgy stains on the upholstery even if the car itself is very old......unlike guitars where it looking old and battered is a viable desire.
So with the car, you are using an object which nobody ever wants to look anything else but pristine when old. The guitar is a wholly different scenario.
Which is why the analogy needs to be different. Like the jeans where the choices become similar in nature to guitars.
MetalManiac
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Not entirely true. I would actually prefer an old 67 Camaro with original paint that is less than perfect, than some of the pristine repainted( fake to me) stuff I see. Although you don't see anyone doing a faded distressed relic on a car I guess, so the point is moot.
Not entirely true. I would actually prefer an old 67 Camaro with original paint that is less than perfect, than some of the pristine repainted( fake to me) stuff I see. Although you don't see anyone doing a faded distressed relic on a car I guess, so the point is moot.
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Boogie Bill
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I own a 59 Les Paul Historic Reissue. I bought it REALLY REALLY cheap, because a previous owner, while apparently under the influence of copious amounts of assorted chemical substances, tried to "relic" it. Rather than looking used and worn, it looked horribly abused. He used a soldering iron to burn holes in the binding, and in several other places on the top and back. The guitar was originally a Full-Gloss (not VOS) and the Iced Tea burst appeared to have been scratched with 600-grit sandpaper. Some of the worst damage was to the headstock's faceplate where he'd installed Sperzel locking tuners...and tried to hammer in the bushings...leaving deep dents all over the surface.
But...the guitar had a gorgeous figured top. And so I bought it and spent over a grand to have much of the damage repaired...or at least minimized, and a light coat of finish to renew the gloss. Looks good from three feet, but up close much of the abuse is still visible.
In the end, it was well worth the investment. Might not look that great...hey, even a Tom Murphy-aged looks better, but it is a fantastic guitar! It has a big fat neck, but strum the open strings and the guitar vibrates like crazy from stem to stern. It has the Burstbucker 1 & 2 set and has that vintage LP tone. Where others passed because of the guitar's looks, I saw the potential. Big win for me.
I like new guitars as I've said. I would never attempt to relic a guitar...no way. And I take very good care of my guitars. But I would buy a Fender Custom Shop Relic at the right price. I know that there's more to a guitar than just its looks...I prefer the classic shapes...but I've played some fine "pointy" guitars too. I prefer to choose my instruments based on feel and tone and intended application, rather than purely on looks.
The FCS builds Fender's best instruments. Fender isn't dumb--they make a profit on these guitars. Making a profit isn't dumb. The Relics have just superb feel, tone and playability...yet...players will dismiss them out of hand. And all too often, the players who pooh-pooh Relics have never even played or held one! To me, that's dumb.
So you walk into a blues club and hear a cat just wailing on an old Strat and a tweed Bassman. He's got incredible chops and tone to die for. Do you dismiss him as a wannabe fanboy idiot if the "old" Strat turns out to be a new Relic? That's dumb.
I'm often appalled at the closed-mindedness of many players in this biz.
Bill
I own a 59 Les Paul Historic Reissue. I bought it REALLY REALLY cheap, because a previous owner, while apparently under the influence of copious amounts of assorted chemical substances, tried to "relic" it. Rather than looking used and worn, it looked horribly abused. He used a soldering iron to burn holes in the binding, and in several other places on the top and back. The guitar was originally a Full-Gloss (not VOS) and the Iced Tea burst appeared to have been scratched with 600-grit sandpaper. Some of the worst damage was to the headstock's faceplate where he'd installed Sperzel locking tuners...and tried to hammer in the bushings...leaving deep dents all over the surface.
But...the guitar had a gorgeous figured top. And so I bought it and spent over a grand to have much of the damage repaired...or at least minimized, and a light coat of finish to renew the gloss. Looks good from three feet, but up close much of the abuse is still visible.
In the end, it was well worth the investment. Might not look that great...hey, even a Tom Murphy-aged looks better, but it is a fantastic guitar! It has a big fat neck, but strum the open strings and the guitar vibrates like crazy from stem to stern. It has the Burstbucker 1 & 2 set and has that vintage LP tone. Where others passed because of the guitar's looks, I saw the potential. Big win for me.
I like new guitars as I've said. I would never attempt to relic a guitar...no way. And I take very good care of my guitars. But I would buy a Fender Custom Shop Relic at the right price. I know that there's more to a guitar than just its looks...I prefer the classic shapes...but I've played some fine "pointy" guitars too. I prefer to choose my instruments based on feel and tone and intended application, rather than purely on looks.
The FCS builds Fender's best instruments. Fender isn't dumb--they make a profit on these guitars. Making a profit isn't dumb. The Relics have just superb feel, tone and playability...yet...players will dismiss them out of hand. And all too often, the players who pooh-pooh Relics have never even played or held one! To me, that's dumb.
So you walk into a blues club and hear a cat just wailing on an old Strat and a tweed Bassman. He's got incredible chops and tone to die for. Do you dismiss him as a wannabe fanboy idiot if the "old" Strat turns out to be a new Relic? That's dumb.
I'm often appalled at the closed-mindedness of many players in this biz.
Bill
Lake Placid Blues
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If I have a dinged up guitar at some point I'm going to restore it. If somebody likes that, then that's their business, but It's not for me.
If I have a dinged up guitar at some point I'm going to restore it. If somebody likes that, then that's their business, but It's not for me.
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The old car stuff is somewhat in a league of its own really. You can take completely rusted out shells, add in essentially repro parts and panels and the finished piece sells for the same as if the whole car was untouched from that same era.
Try and sell a guitar from the 50's/60's with even period correct hardware but that came from another of the same era guitar and you'll take a hit on value as it won't be 'factory original".....go figure. Its a curious market, the guitar one. So many laws only unto itself.
The old car stuff is somewhat in a league of its own really. You can take completely rusted out shells, add in essentially repro parts and panels and the finished piece sells for the same as if the whole car was untouched from that same era.
Try and sell a guitar from the 50's/60's with even period correct hardware but that came from another of the same era guitar and you'll take a hit on value as it won't be 'factory original".....go figure. Its a curious market, the guitar one. So many laws only unto itself.
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I don't like artificially distressed guitars either. I do think they are lame and fake. I'd feel embarrassed to gig with one.
BUT I have to point out that I'm lucky in that I'm old enough to have actually put over 40 years of wear on my '71 Strat.
So I already have the real thing. (I've been playing for a living for 54 years)
It's hard to say if I'd feel different if all I could get my hands on was a new guitar and not have enough years left to naturally age it. (even a newer nitro coated one) I have many other guitars from the '80s, '90s and 2000s that are hardly aged at all.They are poly coated.
Here's a photo of my old #1
S Mac
I don't like artificially distressed guitars either. I do think they are lame and fake. I'd feel embarrassed to gig with one.
BUT I have to point out that I'm lucky in that I'm old enough to have actually put over 40 years of wear on my '71 Strat.
So I already have the real thing. (I've been playing for a living for 54 years)
It's hard to say if I'd feel different if all I could get my hands on was a new guitar and not have enough years left to naturally age it. (even a newer nitro coated one) I have many other guitars from the '80s, '90s and 2000s that are hardly aged at all.They are poly coated.
Here's a photo of my old #1
S Mac
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mantis
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I'm not one of those people who would call anyone stupid for liking relicing. But I am one who doesn't like it. I probably don't understand the desire to have a guitar look like it's been abused. I'm one who prefers brand new and trying to keep it that way for as long as possible.
George Lynch as one and it looks like he played the hell out of it. He's my favorite but I have no desire to own that guitar.
He played my Tiger and put a nail mark on the back of the neck. Most think that ups the value of that guitar but I'm not really in.
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I'm not one of those people who would call anyone stupid for liking relicing. But I am one who doesn't like it. I probably don't understand the desire to have a guitar look like it's been abused. I'm one who prefers brand new and trying to keep it that way for as long as possible.
George Lynch as one and it looks like he played the hell out of it. He's my favorite but I have no desire to own that guitar.
He played my Tiger and put a nail mark on the back of the neck. Most think that ups the value of that guitar but I'm not really in.
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rgand
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I like this a lot. The real thing has character.
