SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
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KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
+1.
Is it just me or does this feels like it's too passive, like everyone (apart from the vocal displeased ones
) just seem like they're waiting for everyone else :9:
Basically there are three ways we can go about it (except of giving up:9
Go on with what we've built
Start over from scratch (well, except that it's still gonna be in SC-form-factor)
Mess around with an already existent pickup (preferably a SC one, we'd never finish if everyone asked for his favorite humbucker in SC-form factor)
What say you people?
On with the polls (again)?
+1.
Is it just me or does this feels like it's too passive, like everyone (apart from the vocal displeased ones
) just seem like they're waiting for everyone else :9:Basically there are three ways we can go about it (except of giving up:9
Go on with what we've built
Start over from scratch (well, except that it's still gonna be in SC-form-factor
)Mess around with an already existent pickup (preferably a SC one, we'd never finish if everyone asked for his favorite humbucker in SC-form factor
)What say you people?
On with the polls (again)?
jimijames
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
Ugh... Let's just go with jeremy's idea and be done with it. Or we could have another poll - the original plan or the jeremy special... I think, other than that, It's just going to get bogged down with polls, but I've got all summer, so no rush.
Ugh... Let's just go with jeremy's idea and be done with it. Or we could have another poll - the original plan or the jeremy special... I think, other than that, It's just going to get bogged down with polls, but I've got all summer, so no rush.
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
OK, how about this one:
How we'll present it to Seymour Duncan:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost want this to work as best as possible". (Or something to that effect)
How about that?
I think this should cover both the ones that voted as well as most (?) that were displeased with the results.
So?
OK, how about this one:
How we'll present it to Seymour Duncan:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost want this to work as best as possible". (Or something to that effect
)How about that?
I think this should cover both the ones that voted as well as most (?) that were displeased with the results.
So?
jimijames
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
I like it as long as we replace that last line from "but we first and foremost want this to work as best as possible" to but we first and foremost desire the integrity of the sound to be kept intact, i.e. have it sound like both a strat and a p-90, more than we desire a hum cancelling element 'Cause "work as best as possible" could be construed to be as quiet as possible Methinks.
edit: RESPOND PEOPLE!!!! We need to know if there's enough of a demand to get the forum discount!!!!
I like it as long as we replace that last line from "but we first and foremost want this to work as best as possible" to but we first and foremost desire the integrity of the sound to be kept intact, i.e. have it sound like both a strat and a p-90, more than we desire a hum cancelling element 'Cause "work as best as possible" could be construed to be as quiet as possible Methinks.
edit: RESPOND PEOPLE!!!! We need to know if there's enough of a demand to get the forum discount!!!!
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
Well, seeing as I said "if ... all the better BUT..." I don't think there'd be a misunderstanding.
BUT yes, your take is a more eloquent and impervious to misconception version of exactly what I meant
COME ON PEOPLE!!!
Well, seeing as I said "if ... all the better BUT..." I don't think there'd be a misunderstanding.
BUT yes, your take is a more eloquent and impervious to misconception version of exactly what I meant
You always know the best way to put things don't you?
COME ON PEOPLE!!!
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
Finally, some action!!!
Oh, btw, I think I have it:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost desire for the most faithful recreation of these two distinct (and distinctly different) voices".
I think this one says it all!
Finally, some action!!!
Oh, btw, I think I have it:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost desire for the most faithful recreation of these two distinct (and distinctly different) voices".
I think this one says it all!
uOpt
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
We still need to make sure there are enough people to pull the money trigger.
We would compromise our ability to suggest brother pickups to Seymour Duncan if we screw this up and SD takes a huge loss.
Finally, some action!!!
Oh, btw, I think I have it:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost desire for the most faithful recreation of these two distinct (and distinctly different) voices".
I think this one says it all!
We still need to make sure there are enough people to pull the money trigger.
We would compromise our ability to suggest brother pickups to Seymour Duncan if we screw this up and SD takes a huge loss.
Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
you lose me on two things. 1-neck/middle - like myself and a few others have stated it should be designed as a bridge pup that can work in the neck not vice versa 2 - humcancelling - tone should be the name of the game humcancelling shouldnt be a concern
OK, how about this one:
How we'll present it to Seymour Duncan:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost want this to work as best as possible". (Or something to that effect
How about that?
I think this should cover both the ones that voted as well as most (?) that were displeased with the results.
So?
you lose me on two things. 1-neck/middle - like myself and a few others have stated it should be designed as a bridge pup that can work in the neck not vice versa 2 - humcancelling - tone should be the name of the game humcancelling shouldnt be a concern
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
As for the noisecanceling, I don't get it. Do you actively WANT the 60Hz hum? Like I said:
Which is why I'm posting this to see how many will show interest
Now THERE'S an idea!I am not a part of the demand-curve for this thing, but I suggest you list a final sticky thread in all forum rooms to see if people want this..
Jeremy, if there was one poll that was 100% conclusive was what it should be which was a Neck/middle Strat pickup. We could repeat that poll but I'm betting it will result in the same way. The reason like I said is that more will want to use it in HSS than SSS situations (so as to better match a humbucker bridge).
As for the noisecanceling, I don't get it. Do you actively WANT the 60Hz hum? Like I said:
What I say here is concentrate on the tone and if you can pull it off with some noise cancelation/reduction, all the better. But that isn't the primary concern. First and foremost we want the tone. What's wrong with that?
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scottish
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
Im actually more with jeremy on this one. I dont think strat neck pups need messing with too much. A nice p90 sounding beefy bridge would be awesome. With the option of using it in the neck if you desire, i think thats the best bet.
Cheers
Im actually more with jeremy on this one. I dont think strat neck pups need messing with too much. A nice p90 sounding beefy bridge would be awesome. With the option of using it in the neck if you desire, i think thats the best bet.
Cheers
jimijames
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
I like it, but maybe we should comprimise and ask for a pickup that works equally well in all positions? Although I figure that'll be the result anyway with the good folks at the SD custom shop.
Finally, some action!!!
Oh, btw, I think I have it:
"We, the people of the SDUGF for the summer of 2008 request a neck/middle pickup for a Strat that will be able to switch between a traditional Strat SC and a P90-voiced one.
If there is a way to properly do this and have some kind of noise reduction/cancellation in any of the modes all the better, but we first and foremost desire for the most faithful recreation of these two distinct (and distinctly different) voices".
I think this one says it all!
I like it, but maybe we should comprimise and ask for a pickup that works equally well in all positions? Although I figure that'll be the result anyway with the good folks at the SD custom shop.
Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
ive never heard a noise cancelling single coil sized pup that sounded as good as a real single coil. the classic stack + are great but i still use my aps2/surfer/ssl2/texas hots unless there is a serious noise issue.
ive never heard a noise cancelling single coil sized pup that sounded as good as a real single coil. the classic stack + are great but i still use my aps2/surfer/ssl2/texas hots unless there is a serious noise issue.
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
I get what you say, but chances are this won't be a typical single coil.
The very nature of what we ask for results in SD and MJ trying a bunch of things out.
If they feel that the best way is to go for a hot, tappable SC then that's what they'll go for.
It's not as if we're telling them to aim for a stack/rails/whatever design. Just to concentrate on what works the best and if this, as a side effect, turns out to also buck-the-hum, all the better. That shouldn't be a problem at all.
About Neck vs Bridge. I really think that if we were to ask for a "jack-of-all-trades" kind of pickup it would also come with the "...but master of none" clause; in short, in aiming to go in all 3 positions it would just end up being a mediocre pickup in all three. And, well, regardless of the logic behind it, most people want a neck/middle pickup, not a bridge...
However, if the people at SD think they can do this work good in all three you won't see me complaining
I get what you say, but chances are this won't be a typical single coil.
The very nature of what we ask for results in SD and MJ trying a bunch of things out.
If they feel that the best way is to go for a hot, tappable SC then that's what they'll go for.
It's not as if we're telling them to aim for a stack/rails/whatever design. Just to concentrate on what works the best and if this, as a side effect, turns out to also buck-the-hum, all the better. That shouldn't be a problem at all.
About Neck vs Bridge. I really think that if we were to ask for a "jack-of-all-trades" kind of pickup it would also come with the "...but master of none" clause; in short, in aiming to go in all 3 positions it would just end up being a mediocre pickup in all three. And, well, regardless of the logic behind it, most people want a neck/middle pickup, not a bridge...
However, if the people at SD think they can do this work good in all three you won't see me complaining
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
OK, how about this.
We ask Evan to ask SD and MJ for "A Strat pickup that can switch between a traditional single coil and a P90 that will work equally well for both neck and bridge" and ask them if they feel confident they can get this right or if they feel better results could be achieved if they were to aim for only neck OR bridge.
Then we'll have our answer.
If they think it's possible then we ask them to work their magic, if they say they think it'd be best to go for either the neck OR bridge we set one last poll, we ask again if we want this to be a neck pickup that can work at the bridge as well or a bridge pickup that can be used in the neck too.
This should settle it once and for all...
Everyone agreed?
OK, how about this.
We ask Evan to ask SD and MJ for "A Strat pickup that can switch between a traditional single coil and a P90 that will work equally well for both neck and bridge" and ask them if they feel confident they can get this right or if they feel better results could be achieved if they were to aim for only neck OR bridge.
Then we'll have our answer.
If they think it's possible then we ask them to work their magic, if they say they think it'd be best to go for either the neck OR bridge we set one last poll, we ask again if we want this to be a neck pickup that can work at the bridge as well or a bridge pickup that can be used in the neck too.
This should settle it once and for all...
Everyone agreed?
Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
how about:
"A Strat pickup that can switch between a traditional fender single coil tone and a P90 tone that will work equally well both in the neck to match with a bridge humbucker or in the bridge to match with single coils"
a slight refinement of what you had
how about:
"A Strat pickup that can switch between a traditional fender single coil tone and a P90 tone that will work equally well both in the neck to match with a bridge humbucker or in the bridge to match with single coils"
a slight refinement of what you had
