SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?

[JohnnyGuitar]

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i disagree with the result

i think SD would much more benefit from something around 9-10k and kinda PAF-ish

i mean that's the biggest gap in the current duncan line, there's PAF's, and then there's hot 14k+ pickups, nothing in the 10k range

Take a look at the single coil line - it has the same problem.

The hum canceling line for Strats and Teles could also use a few new members...

On that note, when I look at the stack line of Dimarzio I see more options for the hum canceling fans among us. It's weird because to my ears the vocal mid hump makes all of them sound pretty much in the same ball park but they do have the upper hand of addressing almost any niche in the hum canceling field... I'd love to see SD covering more ground there.

 

[KeeperOS]

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Except we ALL agreed we wanted a neck/middle SINGLE COIL, NOT ANOTHER HUMBUCKER!!

(D@mn, I didn't know this was such a complicated concept...)

Take a look at the single coil line - it has the same problem.

The hum canceling line for Strats and Teles could also use a few new members...

THANK you. Yes!

 

[hanumanlangur]

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Well, if we can't make an A8 vintage P90-voiced noiseless single coil with Quarter Pounder slugs and a cerulean blue cover, then I'm not too interested.

My vote: give up, admit defeat, and remind ourselves that bridge humbuckers are the only exciting pickups.

 

[Sanford]

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At first I was uber-jazzed about the idea of being involved in the design of a pick-up. Then I realized that the P-Rails (introduced this year, still very new) sounded more like what I wanted in terms of versatility. It has a lot of potential and, after recently receiving a set, I look forward to getting to know them in depth.
Also, after some thought on the subject, I came to the conclusion that the Seymour Duncan team members are more than capable of combining creative thought and engineering experience to design, produce, and market "Next Year's Model" without the rapidly plummeting value of my two cents.

P.S. Thanks go to Wymoreguitars for prompt delivery and a price that convinced me I was getting a discounted custom shop set of pickups.

 

[Lazarus1140]

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Forty seven people voted for a noiseless single coil. Are there 47 buyers?

 

[ErikH]

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i think SD would much more benefit from something around 9-10k and kinda PAF-ish

i mean that's the biggest gap in the current duncan line, there's PAF's, and then there's hot 14k+ pickups, nothing in the 10k range

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. How the heck do you think the Brobucker came to be?

Don't like it with the degaussed A5, through and A2 in there or a full-strength A5. There's 3 right there.

 

[jimijames]

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I think we should do a poll or something to figure out how many buyers we have, I know I'm in for 1 (and maybe more if I dig it), but we need to figure out just how many pickups we're talking about here.

 

[veryhungrycaterpilla]

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This poll was very disorganized and confusing. And took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.

I would like a P90 voiced strat pup for neck and middle (now that I have a strat), but what about the bridge? Notch position tone?

When will the new pup be available for pre-orders?

 

[KeeperOS]

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...I think the best way is for people to SHOW whether they'll be interested in putting their money where their mouth are.
I say set up one final poll, a PUBLIC poll asking people how many of those they'd buy.
1 through 5 plus maybe the "I'll buy at least one and maybe I'll then order some more after I had a chance to check it out" option.
That way we'll see in numbers how many are still interested and how many pickups we're talking about.
Then SD themselves can see whether the numbers are enough to justify a "User Group pickup".

Forty seven people voted for a noiseless single coil. Are there 47 buyers?

I think we should do a poll or something to figure out how many buyers we have, I know I'm in for 1 (and maybe more if I dig it), but we need to figure out just how many pickups we're talking about here.

Looks like this is the first thing we've got more than two people to agree on.
So guys?
Are we on?

 

[weisserj]

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Forty seven people voted for a noiseless single coil. Are there 47 buyers?

I would buy two...

 

[J Moose]

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im a single coil guy but i dont really have any interest in a noisless p90 strat neck pup.

Agreed 110%

I for one, thought the polls might've been overcooked... at the least they were confusing and maybe excessive?

Confusing... for sure.

At the VERY least there were too many polls...

Anywau... putting a noiseless P90 into the neck slot of a Strat doesn't interest me in the least.

It's the entirely WRONG spot.

That belongs in the bridge position.

The Achilles Heel of a Strat for any kind of "rock" or blues is bridge pickup...

Always weak and icepick thin like a broken radio. Doesn't much matter who's playing or what amp.

I made that point in one of the original threads but was probably drowned out by the lemmings clammering for the "ultimate hair bucker" or whatever it was...

Build a P90 in a "fender" size... noiseless or not... and I'll buy a few.

Hell, build a Strat bridge and a Tele bridge and I'd be inclined to take at least of a pair of each.

 

[jimijames]

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I figure, to get it to sound like a p-90, it'd have to be at least as hot (if not hotter) than a standard strat bridge... I'm thinking it'll end up at around 7-8k, which is where both the Jerry Donahue (7-ish k) and the Twang banger (8-ish k) are at, so it'd be perfectly viable as a bridge pickup. I think. One of the things I like about p-90's are the fat highs, which would definitely compliment the bridge position. So please get on board... We need all the support we can get!

 

[dr.barlo]

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I too lost my interest in this pickup. Noiseless, and p90, and neck... Not for me. IMHO Fralin already makes the non noiseless versions of those, them steel poled strat pickups.

I still think that a true single coil strat bridge pickup that is tapped to deliver the regular 6.50K strat tone and a thick say 8.00K (#42) sort of a lead tone would have been much more popular. But, the polls sort of show that I am not right.

So I am not gonna be ordering this forum pickup for sure. But still I hope it becomes a success like the earlier two.

Best,

B

 

[jeremy]

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I too lost my interest in this pickup. Noiseless, and p90, and neck... Not for me. IMHO Fralin already makes the non noiseless versions of those, them steel poled strat pickups.

I still think that a true single coil strat bridge pickup that is tapped to deliver the regular 6.50K strat tone and a thick say 8.00K (#42) sort of a lead tone would have been much more popular. But, the polls sort of show that I am not right.

So I am not gonna be ordering this forum pickup for sure. But still I hope it becomes a success like the earlier two.

Best,

B

like j said, the bridge is the weak spot on a strat. a tapped strat bridge pup that sounds like a strat (maybe with a little tele) tapped and p90 full would be a cool pup. you could use it in the neck or middle as well and it would probably sound great clean tapped, and great dirty full. maybe 42 up to the tap then 43 for the rest?

thats a pup that i think would be sweet, a little different but very cool

 

[B Bent]

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I'm telling you bros, there are enough Tele lovers here to do a BroTwanger! Heck I am flexible on specs, but entering final talks about a Tele bridge PUP would be AWESOME!

That will continue to get my vote until it comes to fruition.

^^^ I also dig both J's ideas too now that I have a Strat(ish) guitar!

 

[Lazarus1140]

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like j said, the bridge is the weak spot on a strat. a tapped strat bridge pup that sounds like a strat (maybe with a little tele) tapped and p90 full would be a cool pup. you could use it in the neck or middle as well and it would probably sound great clean tapped, and great dirty full. maybe 42 up to the tap then 43 for the rest?

thats a pup that i think would be sweet, a little different but very cool

Agreed 100%

So if the process is scrapped I'm OK with it. However, if the decision is made to proceed you can count on me to buy at least one.

 

[KeeperOS]

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Guys, Jeremy, I don't get it.
It's been mentioned before but, chances are, by virtue of emulating a P-90, this pickup is going to be hot enough that, even though it's supposed to be for the neck, should work like it should in the bridge too.
Also, I don't think it should be very hard to convince the SDCS to, maybe wind it a little hotter to make it even more appropriate for the bridge pos.
And we can specify to the CS that the "noisless" part also is within the context of being able "to deliver the regular strat tone" when split. That was part of the reason too!

So I just fail to see how THIS pickup is different from what you're asking for.
Because we don't know which wire they'll use? Because it's going to be split instead of tapped and we don't know what the multimeter will measure?

Come on people! For Pete's sake stop being so concerned with how a pickup looks on paper!!! Trust the SDCS!!!

(And, on another note, maybe we could ask Evan if, perhaps we could also ask for a 2/3 pickups calibrated set like I said in the beginning. After all we ARE talking about Strats here. That should spark the interest of many disillusioned people here...)

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

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This poll was very disorganized and confusing. And took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.

In what way was it disorganized?

 

[jeremy]

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by virtue of emulating a P-90, this pickup is going to be hot enough that, even though it's supposed to be for the neck, should work like it should in the bridge too.
Also, I don't think it should be very hard to convince the SDCS to, maybe wind it a little hotter to make it even more appropriate for the bridge pos.
And we can specify to the CS that the "noisless" part also is within the context of being able "to deliver the regular strat tone" when split. That was part of the reason too

by its nature a great strat neck pup is going to be a less than great strat bridge pup. ive never tried a side by side single coil sized bucker that really sounded like a single coil (p90 or otherwise) which would leave us with a stack which is cool except when you split a stack you actually get a touch more volume, not less. by having a tapped single coil you can get the tone and the lower output.

(And, on another note, maybe we could ask Evan if, perhaps we could also ask for a 2/3 pickups calibrated set like I said in the beginning. After all we ARE talking about Strats here. That should spark the interest of many disillusioned people here...)

that might be too expensive to get enough people to make it a good deal. the other forum pups were $100+, a custom shop strat stack is $150 even if it gets down to $100 thats $300+ for a set.



obviously its not up to me what its going to be, only if i buy one, or four like i did the brobucker

 

[Lazarus1140]

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when you split a stack you actually get a touch more volume, not less.

That is interesting and very helpful. In your opinion, Jeremy, what SD single coil is approximately the same volume as a split STK-S4?