Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

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So...for my birthday I gave myself a "new" guitar: a late 80's dual humbucker made in Japan Fender Strat!

Fairly light alder body, maple neck, rosewood 24 3/4" scale fingerboard with 22 medium jumbo frets. The guitar has a Les Paul scale length...not the traditional Fender Strat/Tele scale length.

Vintage style Fender vibrato and I installed Graph-Tech saddles.

One 500K volume and one 500K tone control and I replaced the .047 cap and installed a .02 Mallory tone cap to leave more mids in the signal when the tone control is turned down.

So I installed the Phat Cats, put on new strings, set the string ht. and intonation, and adjusted the Phat Cats polepieces to match the arch of the fingerboard and adjusted them close to the strings: about 3/32" away form the strings when the strings are held down at the 22nd fret.

Plugged the guitar into my Fender Princeton Reverb and had at it.

I liked the bridge pickup right away: more output and more powerful than I thought it would be. Easy to get pinch harmonics and easy natural overdrive. Felt invited to rock out on some ZZ Topp style blues and boogie riffs. Great sustain and tone...almost like a humbucker, and truthfully, the tone reminded me more of a paf humbucker than a P-90.

But the neck pickup sounded a little muddy to me...particularly when I turned down the guitar's volume to clean the tone up for ryhthm.

So I did the 50's mod. I disconnected the tone control from the input of the volume control and reconnected it to the middle terminal of the volume control.

The change in sound was dramatic! The biggest improvement in tone of any guitar or pickup set that I've ever done the mod too and the tone became brighter and clearer and more lively, even when the volume and tone controls were set to "10".

I went from feeling like I'd be replacing the Phat Cats to really liking them.

The neck pickup now has alot more pop and pluck to the tone. It's clearer for chords and more fun for leads too...and the same thing applies to the bridge pickup.

IMO, though, the Phat Cats do not sound exactly like P90's...they sound better. I've always felt that vintage P90's lacked the output of humbuckers and lacked the chime and sparkle of Strat single coils.

But the Phat Cats push my amp into overdrive beautifully - unlike the vintage P90's and vintage P90 replicas I've owned.

They have a tone that reminds me a lot more of a really good humbucker, but with less mud and more clarity...especially from the neck pickup.

I was talking to Christian yesterday and told him I wasn't really liking the Phat Cats. But now that I have everything set up the way I like it, I'm loving them.

So the final verdict is: they don't sound like vintage P90's, although they do have a lot in common with the sound of P90's. IMO, the Phat Cats sound better than P90's and the diff between them and vintage P90's I consider an improvement.

They have more output in terms of pushing my amp and they're not as thin. The Phat Cats seem thicker and pluckier.

I'm loving them, and I doubt I'll be removing them from Birthday guitar.
But the 50's mod, at least for me, is a must with the Phat Cats. It made all the difference in the world.

One more thing: the neck and bridge model Phat Cats are perfectly balanced. When I switch to the bridge pickup there's even a little lift in terms of volume! Very, very cool. And they sound killer combined.

Many smiles!
Lew
 
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Oh, one more thing. The polepieces DO line up pretty good under the strings, even at the bridge. I was worried about that, but it's not a problem with this particular short scale Strat. There's no volume drop off with the two E strings, even though the E strings are over the outer edge of the outside polepieces instead of being centered over them.

Lew
 
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Sweet. Glad they're working out for you. And happy birthday. :fing2:
 
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Hooray for PhatCats! Is this your first time using them in one of your guitars? Your description is the best I have heard so far...very much matches what I hear from them in my 3 pickup Les Paul.

What does the "50's mod" do to change the sound so dramatically? What made you think to do it?
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Hooray for PhatCats! Is this your first time using them in one of your guitars? Your description is the best I have heard so far...very much matches what I hear from them in my 3 pickup Les Paul.

What does the "50's mod" do to change the sound so dramatically? What made you think to do it?

Thanks! This is my first experience with the Phat Cats in my own guitar, although I've owned many guitars with P90's, including a real '56 Les Paul Gold Top.

The 50's mod makes it so when I trun down the volume control fewer highs are "lost" by being bled to ground.

Some Gibson Les Pauls were wired that way in the 50's and all Hamer guitars are wired that way.

Basically you just move the connection to the tone control from the input terminal of the volume control to the middle terminal of the volume control.

It's easy.

I also always change a .047 mfd tone capacitor to a .02 mfd tone cap. The smaller capacitor blocks upper mids from being bled to ground and gives better "woman tone"...that tone Clapton got when he played with Cream and sometimes turned his tone control way down while wailing through a cranked Marshall.

Lew
 
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Sounds like you like 'em too!
:headbang::lmao:
Lew

I love mine. They actually replaced a set of Seths in my Sheraton. I got mine a couple of weeks after they were released to the general public. I've tried a pair of PG's in it since then, but even those weren't good enough to replace the PC's (and they're my fave PAF types). I also have 'em set up with 50's style wiring, BTW.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

I love mine. They actually replaced a set of Seths in my Sheraton. I got mine a couple of weeks after they were released to the general public. I've tried a pair of PG's in it since then, but even those weren't good enough to replace the PC's (and they're my fave PAF types). I also have 'em set up with 50's style wiring, BTW.

Makes a big improvement, IMO. Way to go!
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Along with the sound, I imagine a pair of Phat Cats would look killer in a Strat.
 
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Hmmmm. This sparks my interest in these again. I'm curious to know how they'd sound in an all mahogany short scale strat or tele.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Hmmmm. This sparks my interest in these again. I'm curious to know how they'd sound in an all mahogany short scale strat or tele.

I know what you mean. These are one of the few I have yet to try.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Hmmmm. This sparks my interest in these again. I'm curious to know how they'd sound in an all mahogany short scale strat or tele.

Brent, you have to try them out. I personally really like them.

I find it amazing how versatile they are and IMO they are filled with MOJO.

Glad you are digging them Lew. I figured you would after taking them for a through test drive.
 
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Me too. Thats why I hate threads like this. Its not like I don't already have enough GAS. :yell:

I think the PhatCats are one of the most underappreciated pickups that SD makes. I love them in my les paul. I have not tried them in anything else myself, but so far we've got two thumbs up for PhatCats in les pauls**, hollowbodies, and strats.

**in particular, as the middle or multiple pickups in the 3-pickup models.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Cool deal.

A murky neck is one thing I didn't particularly love about the Seth neck. Maybe I should have just moved that wire. I need to try the 50's mod.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

I always wanted to put a set of Phat Cats in my friend's HH Strat. Maybe I should sell my '59/Jazz that was gonna go into the soundhole of an acoustic and get one.
 
Re: Set of Phat Cats in a Strat - my review!

Lew!!! Will the same idea work on a Schecter Tele PT? 2 phat cats, and the 50's mod?
 
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