Shimmer Topic Revisited....

zozoe

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Greetings,, I already own a TC Hall of Fame 2 (my 1st reverb ever), & I'm smitten with 2 particular sounds; the Shimmer & the verb w/pre-delay...

I realize it's a VERY crowded room with waay tooo many choices out there, but for a pedal that excels & specializes in SHIMMER, I'm down to the TC Flouresence & possibly the Joyo Atmosphere. TC Elec. has been very good to me on stage & in the studio for 40+ yrs., & their Flouresence pedal seems truly, but not exclusively, geared to the shimmer-head,,,,me. I just caught a few videos on the Joyo, but I know nothing about them...Again, in a shimmer-based pedal, & anything that I might not be aware of, & very close to $100??

Is the TC made for me, or what?

I hear the angels calling~~

Many thanks, again....
 
I've seen a Keeley Omniverb on the local Craigslist. Only $80. Seriously considering it for my Picovalve.

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EHX Canyon has Shimmer. Can be had used for $140-150

Zoom MS50G has Shimmer and a couple other effects that can simulate Shimmer or stack to enhance Shimmer, like reverse reverb and octave delays. You can get the Zoom for $100
 
Boss RV-6 has shimmer and is around that price used. It's a bit metallic sounding for my taste but if you set the tone low it's great.
 
I bet you could get a lot of custom control over shimmer if you purchased a delay pedal with an effects loop, and then threw a pitch shifter into it.
 
I bet you could get a lot of custom control over shimmer if you purchased a delay pedal with an effects loop, and then threw a pitch shifter into it.

Really, a reverb and pitch transposer set to 100% wet in parallel with the original signal. I was doing this with my old ART SGE in the late 80s...now it is in a tiny pedal..go figure!
 
Thnx,, on the Seraphim v1 & v2,, any major diff? They both seemingly have that long touch sensitive option....?? H9 is crazy expensive,,, and a shimmer 'dedicated' pedal is where I'm headed,,, Seraphim, Flouresence, and the Supernatural as an afterthought,,,
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Thnx,, on the Seraphim v1 & v2,, any major diff? They both seemingly have that long touch sensitive option....?? H9 is crazy expensive,,, and a shimmer 'dedicated' pedal is where I'm headed,,, Seraphim, Flouresence, and the Supernatural as an afterthought,,,
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Sold my Supernatural after getting my Neunaber Seraphim and my Strymon Blue Sky got moved to my play out small board. I have the V2 and love it.
 
Like Mincer, I was doing this long, long ago - although I skipped the ART SGE bit.

My rack had a Digitech IPS33-B harmoniser, and a dedicated TRS24 multi-effect.
Also two dual digital delays, and a Lexicon PCM.

My basic sound was full Valve amp at line-level from a Palmer simulator into the IPS33-B. I used its untreated output to drive the first delay, and mix out to the second delay, mix out to the reverb. Their outs went to a mixer which also had the untreated signal. So I could have my core tone, with two delays and reverb, with chorus and delay-hold available. All effects were pannable in stereo.
The second delay had the repeats of the first, and the original signal on every repeat, and the reverb acted on all repeats and the original signal. The reverb was EQ’d heavily to be thin and bright, and was panned in reverse - so a delay left would reverb on the right, and vice-Versa.
Nothing fancy there I guess, but it was still unique, and well thought out. No-one else was doing this.

The real show-stopper was that I also had two harmonies on separate outputs from the IPS33-B - each with their own delays onboard. There were logistical limitations, so the TRS24 was fed by either the harmoniser in stereo, or the original core-tone in mono. I built a relay unit to switch either.
This was unbelievable. The TRS24 had its own pitch-transposer too btw!

To hear your core-tone, with two discrete panned delays with reverb, that’s fantastic in its own right, but I then had a monster reverb in the TRS24 I could fade in, either by manual or with a VCA.

The shimmer stuff was accidental, but inevitable. Playing with 5ths and octaves, with regeneration - into the TRS24.
But I could play one note, and have 12 different regenerative harmonies coming out, at delayed intervals - through a studio reverb!
Believe me - you haven’t heard shimmer like this.

I eschewed the idea of post-reverb effects, as I work in bubble-theory, and aimed for a natural sound-scape - one that you might find playing in an underground lake for instance. But the intention was to eventually output the TRS24 to a resonant filter, for sample and hold madness, and sweeping filter reverbs. I didn’t get there, and circumstances made expansion impossible. No-one made a programmable resonant filter anyway, at that time.

Today, I’m back to two delays and pan-reversed reverb, and together with a short spring reverb on my amp - this is my usual core-sound of some 40 years. It still sounds like day 1, and inspires me to wail away. Amps have changed, but still the same guitars and effects. Something to be said for that.

Kids today are lucky with gear available, but never forget that to get the sound of a basic shimmer reverb in the 90’s, I had to spend £1000+, and go through heavy wiring logistics, and then have the brain to do it. I wasn’t familiar with U2’s stuff, and wasn’t aiming to copy. I just did it ‘cos it was totally mad, and I could.
I found the Helix logistics to fall short of what I did, perhaps the AXE FX 3 could do it, or maybe 2 of them? But I don’t like modelling stuff, and consider digital a necessary evil. But I do read manuals online to keep up with what’s going on.

Very fond memories of that stuff I had. So many nights with cables and boxes everywhere, with constant soldering, and doing layouts on paper.

Here’s my beautiful delays, with now a quite adequate Alex reverb. No Midi here. Everything is switched by relays I installed, with my own design bipolar modulation circuit with a real sine-wave.
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Now I use either a Fractal, my HX Effects, or even an older Line 6 M9 for shimmery pads. They still sound great through a clean amp )or direct). If i was recording, I'd just use a guitar synth and design some pads.
 
Now I use either a Fractal, my HX Effects, or even an older Line 6 M9 for shimmery pads. They still sound great through a clean amp )or direct). If i was recording, I'd just use a guitar synth and design some pads.

I haven't touched my guitar synth in about 2 years. It is such a PITA to set everything up.
 
It is, which is one of the reasons I don't use it live much. In my home studio, it isn't that hard to just go direct and use some VSTs.

Yep, I can get my pads and other synth stuff done with the H90. The only time I desire to grab the synth is if I want to imitate a certain instrument. I typically just grab the keyboard instead because it is easier.
 
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