Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

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Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

I really dig his intervallic runs! EJ has such a great sound without unloading cheez wiz on his listeners.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

In that Carl V. video, he says that he strums the B string and feels for vibration on the bottom of the body to see how resonant a gutar is. Does that sound like a good approach?
 
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WoodGrain67 said:
In that Carl V. video, he says that he strums the B string and feels for vibration on the bottom of the body to see how resonant a gutar is. Does that sound like a good approach?
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I tried it after I saw that video the first time, and every guitar in the store had some sort of a vibration - so it didn't exactly narrow the field for me :laughing:

I prefer to strum the A string and feel that on the guitar body.

But He is playing a lot of lead, and I am playing a lot of rhythm, so ut makes sense that he would want to hear and feel an instrument's high freq response, whereas I am more interested in how it resonates down low.

You can feel that some guitars vibrate a little more freely than others.

Either way, I did not find it to be particularly helpful.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

random:

lubrication lubrication lubrication too (giggedy). Put pencil markings on the saddles, nut, string tree and vibrato parts. Night and day difference for the floating bridge....
 
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Gunny47 said:
lubrication lubrication lubrication too (giggedy). Put pencil markings on the saddles, nut, string tree and vibrato parts. Night and day difference for the floating bridge....
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Yes, very good point. Big Bends Nut Sauce is another good alternative for nut and saddles at every string change. The graphite/silicon combo takes care of lowering the friction and lessens the chance of string breakage across the saddle.




Cheers........................................ wahwah
 
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wahwah said:
Yes, very good point. Big Bends Nut Sauce is another good alternative for nut and saddles at every string change. The graphite/silicon combo takes care of lowering the friction and lessens the chance of string breakage across the saddle.
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I have Big Bends Nut Sauce and used it quite a bit in the past. It definitely works, however, I remember that the strings get "muffled" when I put it on all the parts (string tree, nut, saddles etc). I guess I use too much of it... I haven't used it lately so I have to try again.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

Today I really tryed to get my one strat all set up to float a bit...With 3 springs and 010s and the back of the bridge about 1/8" or a bit more made the guitar sound dead..The springs weren't open enough and the guitar lost its nice reverberation...After that I went with just 2 springs on both outside claw/bridge bottom holes...With both claw screws all the way in,I ended up with too much rear bridge lean and I hated the way it looked...When all was said and done,I hated all the messing about with adjusments and the tuning issues...I put 4 springs back there,locked er down and it sounds great,stays in tune....If I need to really wang bar,I'll use my FR Strat....With this being said,I do have 2 strats with vintage bridges that float a bit and stay in tune...Maybe I just need new/different springs?

All of this was done with the strings stretched,and Nut Sauce at the key places...
 
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Gunny47 said:
I have Big Bends Nut Sauce and used it quite a bit in the past. It definitely works, however, I remember that the strings get "muffled" when I put it on all the parts (string tree, nut, saddles etc). I guess I use too much of it... I haven't used it lately so I have to try again.
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A little bit of Nut Sauce goes a long way, for sure. A very thin line in the nut grooves, and just across the point of contact on the saddles is sufficient.




Cheers..................................... wahwah
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
Maybe I just need new/different springs?
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I can highly recommend the Raw Vintage springs as a relatively cheap experiment. Lower tension, so you use all 5 springs, for a very sturdy and balanced vibrato system. I went from 3 standard springs to the 5 Raw Vintage, and noticed only a slight increase in tension, that I was used to in about a day. The whole guitar feels more solid, and the vibrato system has an almost liquid quality to it. You can pick them up for around $16 a set. Well worth a try.


http://www.rawvintage.com/eng/item_springs.php




Cheers....................................... wahwah
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

wahwah said:
I can highly recommend the Raw Vintage springs as a relatively cheap experiment. Lower tension, so you use all 5 springs, for a very sturdy and balanced vibrato system. I went from 3 standard springs to the 5 Raw Vintage, and noticed only a slight increase in tension, that I was used to in about a day. The whole guitar feels more solid, and the vibrato system has an almost liquid quality to it. You can pick them up for around $16 a set. Well worth a try.


http://www.rawvintage.com/eng/item_springs.php




Cheers....................................... wahwah
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Will try those next...Thanks for the great advice!
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

The recommended setup on my Strat bridges is front edge flat but the rear tilted forward slightly.
I'm not a heavy user, just add a touch of vibrato or to slur into a note.
I've always used this setup and have zero tuning issues.
Perfect.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

I've actually got Raw Vintage springs in all my guitars.
They're a bit thicker than normal springs but I'd describe them as having a better tension, as opposed to the high tension of normal springs.
I tried 5 but preferred the feel of 3 in all my guitars.
I highly recommend them !
 
'Lightly decked', I guess, is how I would describe my setups... 3 springs, tight enough to the body that you can feel the vibrations of the strings, but not so tight you can't use the trem easily.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

Mine is tight to the deck. Sometimes I even block it so it can't move. I like the tone better. Sounds more solid and I don't have to bend a string as far to raise it up to pitch if the vibrato is tight to the deck and stays that way.

I do like the sound of the springs resonating though. That's part of a Strat's signature tone.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

ImmortalSix said:
What do you mean by parallel?

Do you just mean "all at once / all together"? Why wouldn't a Strat vibrato be able to do that?
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It simply doesn't and can't. On a strat you will never be able to take a first position E and bend it up to an F# and and down to a D perfectly in tune because the strings would need to move at different rates. You can do this on 2 or maybe 3 strings on a strat but not all 6. This is why the TransTrem had its own patent. I played a strat for years as my main guitar, so I know what is possible. We guitarists have just accepted the limitation over the years.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

Since I never use tremolos I put all 5 springs in it and crank the hell out of the two screws making it super-stiff, kinda making it a hardtail.
 
Re: Strat Guys....Bridge...Floating Or Decked?

Floating. It's just what I'm used to and it's the way my first Strat was set up.

I never could get along with Floyds or Kahlers. I don't really do much whammy and dive bombs aren't really my style.
 
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