Swapping speakers

[STLMTLHD79]

I had great results swapping out the stock speakers in my Peavey 5150 combo. I listened to numerous sound clips and ended up getting some Celestion Creamback 65's. Sound wise, they were exactly what I was looking for. I also have them in a extension cab. I'm seriously considering switching those out for a pair of Creamback 75's.

I am also considering swapping one of the G12M 65w Creambacks for a G12H 75W Creamback. I have read that the 97 vs 100 db difference is very audible so im a little hesitant. Anybody here have experience with something like this?

 

[jeremy]

100db sensitivity is very noticeably louder than 97db

 

[Rex_Rocker]

People mix V30's (100dB) with T-75's (97dB) all the time, so it works... for some people. One pair is always dominant, though.

I remember once I brought my Marshall 1960 to practice. It was loaded with Creamback H75's and Relic 30's (back when I hadn't made up my mind about mixing speakers), both H magnet 100dB speakers. My guitarist at the time had an Orange PPC412 with Creamback M65's and T-75's, both M magnet 97dB. Bot cabs were good sounding 16 ohms cabs on their own. We plugged them both out his Rockerverb, and not even exaggerating, we were wondering at first if the Orange cab was even plugged in and working. It was, and it actually sounded pretty good, but that's my anecodote mixing speakers with different sensitivity.

3dB is kind of a lot. People sometimes say "it's just 3dB". But the louder it gets, the more exaggerated I feel it might get, as dB's are logarithmic.

 

[marcello252]

100db sensitivity is very noticeably louder than 97db

+3dB is double the efficiency, it's not double the volume but close so

 

[marcello252]

Changing the speaker is a HUGE way to modify your sound, trust me, huge.

In my Princeton for example (modified for 12") I tried :

- Eminence red coat (loud, bold but way too much 'marshally', my amp came with this cone mounted)
- Jensen C12N (loud but mid scooped as hell)
- Weber Alnico AS (too rounded and mid forward, sweet but it lacked the crunch and definition I like)
- Jensen C12Q (the choice! definitely quieter but the sound I like)

 

[Bill Dennis]

I am also considering swapping one of the G12M 65w Creambacks for a G12H 75W Creamback. I have read that the 97 vs 100 db difference is very audible so im a little hesitant. Anybody here have experience with something like this?

It really depends. If you have experience with various speakers, you will know what to expect from them and you will hit far more than you miss. If your a rookie, its a coin toss because you just don't know and are somewhat firing blind

 

[GuitarStv]

+3dB is double the efficiency, it's not double the volume but close so

I think there's a frequency component involved in how your ear hears stuff too. The C. Rex is a 103 dB speaker, but mixed with the V30 (100 dB) . . . they sound pretty balanced in volume to my ears.

 

[Archer250]

For those of you who have swapped speakers in a cab, did the results live up to your expectations? Ä

I have two setups, one 100w EVH 5153 running through the matching 4x12 cab, it sounds amazing.
My home setup is the 50w hooked up to a vertical 2x12 Engl cab loaded V30s. I've never liked any V30 cabs with the EVH amps, they always sound harsh to my ears.

I'm thinking maybe replace the speakers with Celestion EVH branded G12Ms, but I've no idea if it's going to sound like crap because the cab wasn't designed with those speakers in mind.

Yep

Swapped 2 Chinese G12Ms to the EVH sig Celestions

To be clear, it sounded amazing as-is, but I wanted some more softness I knew the Heritage/EVH had