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what is your idea of the meaning of life?
what is your idea of the meaning of life?
The Well 69: ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Thumb through the thread and you'll get your answer.
Thumb through the thread and you'll get your answer.
ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
I do love pizza --- I made one from scratch just last week:
I do love pizza --- I made one from scratch just last week:
ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: Immortal Six
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:welcome: :laughing:
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:welcome: :laughing:
ImmortalSix
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:friday:
I would be the midnight toker --- I never smoke you-know-what (or use any drugs), but the idea of being up late and relaxing is right up my alley.
Gilmour --- I like his playing, not as much as some of you guys, but I like the way he plays guitar. He definitely has his own thing going on --- his rhythm playing especially; which is often overlooked.
:friday:
I would be the midnight toker --- I never smoke you-know-what (or use any drugs), but the idea of being up late and relaxing is right up my alley.
Gilmour --- I like his playing, not as much as some of you guys, but I like the way he plays guitar. He definitely has his own thing going on --- his rhythm playing especially; which is often overlooked.
ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
To feel.
To feel loved, feel protective, feel helpless, feel vulnerable, feel high, feel low, feel powerful, feel euphoric, feel like the only person in the world, feel like a grain of sand on the beach, feel like you're serving something greater than yourself, feel safe, feel unsafe, just to feel.
We all can agree that there's no "absolute" definition, but for me, I just want to feel a wide range of things in my life. Doing things like getting married, having kids, things like that are ways to amplify the way we feel about things. I am excited about these things because that's the only way we experience the world --- we feel.
Everything else is a means of creating a feeling: money, work, rivalry, all of it, it just boils down to feelings that you have.
-Hunter
To feel.
To feel loved, feel protective, feel helpless, feel vulnerable, feel high, feel low, feel powerful, feel euphoric, feel like the only person in the world, feel like a grain of sand on the beach, feel like you're serving something greater than yourself, feel safe, feel unsafe, just to feel.
We all can agree that there's no "absolute" definition, but for me, I just want to feel a wide range of things in my life. Doing things like getting married, having kids, things like that are ways to amplify the way we feel about things. I am excited about these things because that's the only way we experience the world --- we feel.
Everything else is a means of creating a feeling: money, work, rivalry, all of it, it just boils down to feelings that you have.
-Hunter
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
How would you describe yourself using three adjectives? What three adjectives do you think your wife would use? How about someone who only knew you for an hour or so?
- Keith
How would you describe yourself using three adjectives? What three adjectives do you think your wife would use? How about someone who only knew you for an hour or so?
- Keith
ImmortalSix
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Myself:
Sharp
Logical
Capable
My Wife:
Smart
Caring
Artsy
10 Minute Stranger:
Receptive
Observant
Bright
I see myself as a natural born engineer --- I see all circumstances end to end, I see their cause and effect, and I naturally think of the most efficient execution of any given __________.
My wife sees me as a provider, obviously --- this is a biological instinct, but she appreciates my intellect, and she, being someone who regrettably does not have the same understanding of and appreciation for art that I do, sees me as "artsy" because I can describe the beauty of a painting, or a musical composition, or even a wine, and she will not be able to relate.
The 10-minute stranger will see me as a good listener, because I consciously employ good listening skills --- I am an intelligence gatherer by nature and I identify that it's more important for me to learn about something or someone than it is for that thing or person to know anything about me in most circumstances. Keeping information about you to yourself is also of value --- it's a card that can be played later, it provides leverage.
I just read the above and I sound like a robot :laughing:
Myself:
Sharp
Logical
Capable
My Wife:
Smart
Caring
Artsy
10 Minute Stranger:
Receptive
Observant
Bright
I see myself as a natural born engineer --- I see all circumstances end to end, I see their cause and effect, and I naturally think of the most efficient execution of any given __________.
My wife sees me as a provider, obviously --- this is a biological instinct, but she appreciates my intellect, and she, being someone who regrettably does not have the same understanding of and appreciation for art that I do, sees me as "artsy" because I can describe the beauty of a painting, or a musical composition, or even a wine, and she will not be able to relate.
The 10-minute stranger will see me as a good listener, because I consciously employ good listening skills --- I am an intelligence gatherer by nature and I identify that it's more important for me to learn about something or someone than it is for that thing or person to know anything about me in most circumstances. Keeping information about you to yourself is also of value --- it's a card that can be played later, it provides leverage.
I just read the above and I sound like a robot :laughing:
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Excellent response! At least you don't sound like a "huge nerd."
Excellent response! At least you don't sound like a "huge nerd."
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
this is doubly interesting .... 1) that you use the word 'provider' as opposed to something more modern/egalitarian like, say, 'partner' or some such ... and 2) that you use the word 'obviously' which connotes dismissal of any other expectation or possible perception on her part
could you expand on these? if you do, i almost guarantee i have a follow-up
no, actually you sound like someone grooming them self for a career as a CIA analyst/operator/case manager
this is doubly interesting .... 1) that you use the word 'provider' as opposed to something more modern/egalitarian like, say, 'partner' or some such ... and 2) that you use the word 'obviously' which connotes dismissal of any other expectation or possible perception on her part
could you expand on these? if you do, i almost guarantee i have a follow-up
no, actually you sound like someone grooming them self for a career as a CIA analyst/operator/case manager
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Your analysis has piqued my interest --- very astute, you!
First things first, I believe that everything we do as humans is biologically motivated.
(A person will kiss ass at work to move up to get more money to guarantee air, water, food, shelter or build a buffer thereof, for a brief and simple example) Eating is "obtaining calories" for me.Making money is "gathering." Finding and converting opportunity is "hunting." We are animals, and we can't take that out of our minds --- we do what we do to satisfy biological desires. Even our more complex desires are rooted in biology.
On "provider," in our case, my wife could not support herself with her present quality of life, expenses, and income. It just wouldn't add up for her. So, strictly in terms of dollars and cents, I am a provider. Now emotionally and familially, I am a partner, equal as can be.
I say obviously, because I see people as what they are --- biologically motivated animals. Why does she latch on to me, on the biological level? Providence. Protection. Procreation. I can do things for her she can't do alone. Seeing it any other way is naive.
All that said, I am not a cold, unfeeling scientist in real life, I just think that way because as a scientist, my default is to quantify to understand --- decompose to understand. I am a real person, with a heart and all that.
As far as intel career --- I am interested in several different fields of intel, of which there are many (GEOINT and MASINT being my top two) and my next career move very well may be in that direction.
Your analysis has piqued my interest --- very astute, you!
First things first, I believe that everything we do as humans is biologically motivated.
(A person will kiss ass at work to move up to get more money to guarantee air, water, food, shelter or build a buffer thereof, for a brief and simple example) Eating is "obtaining calories" for me.Making money is "gathering." Finding and converting opportunity is "hunting." We are animals, and we can't take that out of our minds --- we do what we do to satisfy biological desires. Even our more complex desires are rooted in biology.
On "provider," in our case, my wife could not support herself with her present quality of life, expenses, and income. It just wouldn't add up for her. So, strictly in terms of dollars and cents, I am a provider. Now emotionally and familially, I am a partner, equal as can be.
I say obviously, because I see people as what they are --- biologically motivated animals. Why does she latch on to me, on the biological level? Providence. Protection. Procreation. I can do things for her she can't do alone. Seeing it any other way is naive.
All that said, I am not a cold, unfeeling scientist in real life, I just think that way because as a scientist, my default is to quantify to understand --- decompose to understand. I am a real person, with a heart and all that.
As far as intel career --- I am interested in several different fields of intel, of which there are many (GEOINT and MASINT being my top two) and my next career move very well may be in that direction.
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
You are one interesting dude.
You are one interesting dude.
ImmortalSix
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tone4days
Heel Whacker
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interesting to say the least - best well in ages
ah, where to start
so one question that comes to mind is 'does your wife share your analysis as natively her own (as opposed to having been absorbed from you) - does she look at you obviously as a provider first and foremost?'
the next question is more personal ... have you reflected on the long term implications for your self - your spirit - your psyche - of being seen as such? if so, what have you come up with as to your role as 'provider'
next - do you leave room that your approach (everything is biology) is insufficient to explain the range of human behaviour? ... it seems to me that you look at humna behaviour as addressing nothing above the lowest ranks of maslow's hierarchy of needs
next - you describe your marriage in ways that lean nearly exclusively to your wife's dependence on you as opposed to interdependence of two otherwise independent and self sufficient adults ... have i misread?
interesting to say the least - best well in ages
ah, where to start
so one question that comes to mind is 'does your wife share your analysis as natively her own (as opposed to having been absorbed from you) - does she look at you obviously as a provider first and foremost?'
the next question is more personal ... have you reflected on the long term implications for your self - your spirit - your psyche - of being seen as such? if so, what have you come up with as to your role as 'provider'
next - do you leave room that your approach (everything is biology) is insufficient to explain the range of human behaviour? ... it seems to me that you look at humna behaviour as addressing nothing above the lowest ranks of maslow's hierarchy of needs
next - you describe your marriage in ways that lean nearly exclusively to your wife's dependence on you as opposed to interdependence of two otherwise independent and self sufficient adults ... have i misread?
ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
I moved this one to the top so I could answer it first! Yeah, I have misconveyed the nature of the relationship, I believe. While it is true that she could not financially support herself, if she was single, she wouldn't live where we live or drive the car she drives, she would have scaled her lifestyle differently. I need her, too. Some are biological reasons, procreation being the most obvious, but it's an undeniable biological need/want to hang out with a female of the species. The search for companionship is very real and a common experience across all species, especially species like us. Practically speaking, I provide more for her than she does for me, but intangibly, in currency of love and caregiving, temperament and joy, she provides as much for me as I do for her. All in all, it's symbiosis.
No, she probably looks at me mostly as the person who always forgets to use a coaster :laughing:
She is a tender female and looks at me as an endearing lug of a husband. She doesn't think about biology when she thinks of our relationship. She is operating on a different level, drawing from a different pool of nouns to classify me. She sees me as a companion, a pillow, a chef, a driver, a tear-wipe-a-wayer, you know, a husband
Well spiritually, being a provider means having the wisdom to keep your own "cup" full so you have something to pour out for others, and maintaining the perspective to give freely whenever you can, and the strength to receive help when you, the provider, need it. I don't know if I fill those needs right now, today, but I will work my whole life to become the man I want to be.
Long-term, it's important to not become arrogant or selfish. This is a common problem. I strive not to think "I am strong, she is weak" or "I am smart, everyone else is stupid." These reactions come from indulgence and vanity, and I maintain the humility that everything I have is a gift, and what I am called to do with my gifts is to use them for whatever "good" that I can.
At the end of the road, I want to know that I never held back when I could give, I never hated when I could love, I never ran when I could stay.
Well, let's be clear --- I believe that the higher ranks represented in Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs are applications of the lower ranks.
Much like the belief that Psychology is applied Biology is applied Chemistry is applied Physics is applied Mathematics, higher ranking needs like appearance root back to lower needs like sex.
So I don't believe every action is motivated by one of the big 5: "get air, get water, get food, get shelter, get sex" but I do believe that every action is derived from or is an application of one of those fundamental building blocks.
-Hunter
I moved this one to the top so I could answer it first! Yeah, I have misconveyed the nature of the relationship, I believe. While it is true that she could not financially support herself, if she was single, she wouldn't live where we live or drive the car she drives, she would have scaled her lifestyle differently. I need her, too. Some are biological reasons, procreation being the most obvious, but it's an undeniable biological need/want to hang out with a female of the species. The search for companionship is very real and a common experience across all species, especially species like us. Practically speaking, I provide more for her than she does for me, but intangibly, in currency of love and caregiving, temperament and joy, she provides as much for me as I do for her. All in all, it's symbiosis.
No, she probably looks at me mostly as the person who always forgets to use a coaster :laughing:
She is a tender female and looks at me as an endearing lug of a husband. She doesn't think about biology when she thinks of our relationship. She is operating on a different level, drawing from a different pool of nouns to classify me. She sees me as a companion, a pillow, a chef, a driver, a tear-wipe-a-wayer, you know, a husband
Well spiritually, being a provider means having the wisdom to keep your own "cup" full so you have something to pour out for others, and maintaining the perspective to give freely whenever you can, and the strength to receive help when you, the provider, need it. I don't know if I fill those needs right now, today, but I will work my whole life to become the man I want to be.
Long-term, it's important to not become arrogant or selfish. This is a common problem. I strive not to think "I am strong, she is weak" or "I am smart, everyone else is stupid." These reactions come from indulgence and vanity, and I maintain the humility that everything I have is a gift, and what I am called to do with my gifts is to use them for whatever "good" that I can.
At the end of the road, I want to know that I never held back when I could give, I never hated when I could love, I never ran when I could stay.
Well, let's be clear --- I believe that the higher ranks represented in Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs are applications of the lower ranks.
Much like the belief that Psychology is applied Biology is applied Chemistry is applied Physics is applied Mathematics, higher ranking needs like appearance root back to lower needs like sex.
So I don't believe every action is motivated by one of the big 5: "get air, get water, get food, get shelter, get sex" but I do believe that every action is derived from or is an application of one of those fundamental building blocks.
-Hunter
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ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Big response updated in edits Re: tone4days
Big response updated in edits Re: tone4days
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phil_104
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Want to be my super duper bestest friend?
Also, if you had crazy intense super engineer skills that made you capable of anything, what improvement would you make to the electric guitar that could change the world? (Does not need to be actually possible)
Want to be my super duper bestest friend?
Also, if you had crazy intense super engineer skills that made you capable of anything, what improvement would you make to the electric guitar that could change the world? (Does not need to be actually possible)
ImmortalSix
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Re: The Well 69: ImmortalSix
Thank you!
Absolutely. I looked all over for the super duper bestest friend button on the forum and I can't find it, though.
I would make an electric guitar that was always in tune, and always intonated perfectly on every note.
In theory, you'd need movable semi-major nodes (i.e. frets) but that's what I'd make.
I have had so much trouble with guitars not intonating correctly that I rank that as my #1 priority on a guitar --- intonation.
Thank you!
Absolutely. I looked all over for the super duper bestest friend button on the forum and I can't find it, though.
I would make an electric guitar that was always in tune, and always intonated perfectly on every note.
In theory, you'd need movable semi-major nodes (i.e. frets) but that's what I'd make.
I have had so much trouble with guitars not intonating correctly that I rank that as my #1 priority on a guitar --- intonation.
ratherdashing
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You and I would get along very well, sir. The part I bolded is one of my greatest skills as a software systems analyst.
Oh ... never mind ...
You and I would get along very well, sir. The part I bolded is one of my greatest skills as a software systems analyst.
Oh ... never mind ...
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