Tone Zone and JB compared

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Here is a sound sample of a Dimarzio Tone Zone and Seymour Duncan JB trembucker in a strat. Let me know what you think.

Tone Zone vs JB

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I liked the second one better. The first one sounded a little muffled.
 
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The first one has that classic TZ stompbox effect. The second one JB is clearer and punchier.
 
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Sorry for the confusion. The first sample is a JB and the second sample is a Tone Zone. The settings and everything was the same. I just plugged in the same strat after installing the JB.
 
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the two are completl;y different sounding pickups. This is absurd. There are a coule of DMaz pickups that can get you to JB territory, but the JB is pretty much unique, and the TZ isnt one that youd want to try and even get close to the JB.
 
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the two are completl;y different sounding pickups. This is absurd. There are a coule of DMaz pickups that can get you to JB territory, but the JB is pretty much unique, and the TZ isnt one that youd want to try and even get close to the JB.

you were listening to the same clip as everyone else, right?

they sounded identical, with the second, just slightly more "bell-like"
touch more chime , in a band context would be imperceptible
 
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I'm listening on pretty ****ty laptop speakers. To me, the second one was a lot clearer but it also seemed a bit thinner. From those two clips, I don't really have a preference.
 
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Absolutely bizarre! You guys have zero idea what a TZ sounds like in the real world, with the amp EQ'd to take advantage of each pickups strengths. It is NOTHING like a JB.
Yeah, and what your hearing is the same amp eq'd about the same. You could probably get any two pickups to sound similar.
In point of fact, the JB isnt close to the TZ at all in sound.
The JB is a unique pickup to Duncan. If I had to pick a Dimaz that sounded remotely close to the JB at high gain eq's properly it'd be the Fred, but even that is a stretch.
You could say the Norton , or the Breed would get you acceptably JB'ish sound, but they'd never get that signature Duncan tone, which is famously different from the trademark DiMaz sound.
If you want a JB , get a JB..period.
 
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Sorry for the confusion. The first sample is a JB and the second sample is a Tone Zone. The settings and everything was the same. I just plugged in the same strat after installing the JB.

the second was the TZ? I would have bet the money on the second clip being the JB
 
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The second one was tighter to me, i agree the first sounded muffled but i love the JB in my guitars.
 
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on the subject of the tone zone i found this,

IHG: With regard to when you said pickups don't exist in a vacuum, I imagine you seek feedback from various players from different genres when designing a new pickup? For example, Paul Gilbert was featured in an ad for the Tone Zone - did he have any feedback into its development?

Steve Blucher: We sometimes seek opinions from players in different genres, but not when a pickup is being designed for a specific player or style of music. Paul Gilbert didn't provide any input towards the development of the Tone Zone. The only player who did was Eddie Van Halen, in the course of doing the pickups for the MusicMan EVH guitar. My understanding is that the final choice for the bridge pickup was between the TZ and the pickup he actually chose, and it almost literally came down to a coin toss.
 
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on the subject of the tone zone i found this,

IHG: With regard to when you said pickups don't exist in a vacuum, I imagine you seek feedback from various players from different genres when designing a new pickup? For example, Paul Gilbert was featured in an ad for the Tone Zone - did he have any feedback into its development?

Steve Blucher: We sometimes seek opinions from players in different genres, but not when a pickup is being designed for a specific player or style of music. Paul Gilbert didn't provide any input towards the development of the Tone Zone. The only player who did was Eddie Van Halen, in the course of doing the pickups for the MusicMan EVH guitar. My understanding is that the final choice for the bridge pickup was between the TZ and the pickup he actually chose, and it almost literally came down to a coin toss.

Yup yup! It can easily nail those snarly VH tones if EQ'd properly.

The TZ is way way WAAAAY different from the JB. Much more than what's apparent in the clip above.
 
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Absolutely bizarre! You guys have zero idea what a TZ sounds like in the real world, with the amp EQ'd to take advantage of each pickups strengths. It is NOTHING like a JB.
Yeah, and what your hearing is the same amp( and I doubt its a real great one) eq'd about the same. You could probably get any two pickups to sound similar.
In point of fact, the JB isnt close to the TZ at all in sound. This would be more apparent if you took your head out of your A** .
The JB is a unique pickup to Duncan. If I had to pick a Dimaz that sounded remotely close to the JB at high gain eq's properly it'd be the Fred, but even that is a stretch.
You could say the Norton , or the Breed would get you acceptably JB'ish sound, but they'd never get that signature Duncan tone, which is famously different from the trademark DiMaz sound.
If you want a JB , get a JB..period.

Well I was using a Rivera Clubster Royale which is a great amp by anyone's standard. For some weird reason you're not hearing what everyone else hears. You seem to get all hostile with the idea that a Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan can sound very similar without tweaking the EQ or doing anything to create the similarities.

Absolutely no variable was changed when I recorded those samples. The EQ and everything stayed the same. All I did was put the amp on standby momentarily while I soldered in the JB, then plugged right in and recorded the second sample. You're just plain wrong on several levels here.

Moreover, the FRED is definitely not the closest pickup to a JB. If anything a Norton would be the closest, but it's a little brighter. I'm as surprised at anyone with the similarities, but as anyone can hear, it's quite stunning. Nothing special. It was recorded miced with an SM57 and a little reverb added in Cubase. Other than that EVERYTHING is exactly the same.

the second was the TZ? I would have bet the money on the second clip being the JB

Yep imagine my surprise. After I installed the JB, I was really surprised at how similar it sounded to the Tone Zone. I have had JB's before and remember them being a lot more like the Norton. I had to double check to make sure that the pickup I bought wasn't mislabled.

After that thread popped up about the JB being mislabeled during production, I had to make sure. This JB I have installed is tight, thick, and very articulate. It's almost as if it has a ceramic magnet.

I don't know what the standard deviation in producing the JB, but this is by far the most different sounding JB I've ever had. This is the best sounding JB I've ever had and I absolutely freaking love it. In fact, I reserved another one from the same order my dealer bought this one.

Look at this :)

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This is the one in which I installed a Pearly Gates:

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