True Temperament Necks

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Frantic_Rock

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Hey Guys,

This intrigued me for a while now:
http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=4&sgo=0

The only thing that's preventing me from getting one right now is the price ($800 + shipping) for the neck.

Did anyone ever try one or play one?

I know most of their Formulas are optimized for certain popular keys, but some keys would be worse than others.

I guess the 12-Tone Equal temperament tries to get the best temperament in all keys.

I wonder what it sounds like for bends. If you are bending a string a minor third up through a curved fret, wouldn't that result in an uneven bend?
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If you bend a string sideways, across a straight fret, its pitch changes in a simple and predictable manner, proportional to the degree of movement.

With curved frets, the pitch change will be different. You will need to listen and memorise how far to push at any given fret position.

As a player of three-saddle Telecasters and fretless basses, I eventually learned to correct my intonation by a combination of careful listening and wanton application of finger vibrato - sideways AND lengthways. My attitude to the intonation issues of these instruments is to make a feature of them.
 
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This should answer some of your questions. I saw these and even emailed them for a quote and how the process goes for getting one. You Bend normally as you would. Also from what ive read the difference between the equal and other temperaments are that there neither one is worse but equal temperament every key sounds the same and is good if your a guitarist playing with a keyboardist or pianist the other two temperaments are meant for keys that are easy for guitarist to play in and the other one for people who use the 7 chords and maybe into jazz. But neither one is worse then the other. In reality each one is better then the neck that is on your guitar now. Guitars and pianos are never truly in perfect tune and this True Temperament system helps with that by getting closer to perfect as you can get with 22 or 24 frets. The only one I would advise against is the mean tone temperament. I would of bought the Formula 1 temperament if I had the money rather then the Equal temperament. Think of Equal temperament as food that is good but no flavor good but no flavor think of the other temperaments as food but spiced up with seasoning and flavor and color. Hope that helps.
 
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That is flat out amazing stuff right there! I bet it would take a lot of getting used to for some old timer organic stlye guitarists out there...
Like an (dare I say it) Auto tune for your guitar.... hmmmm bend and fret chords incorrectly and yet it plays them in tune... WOW!
Technology wow!
I think the crooked frets would screw with my head though...
The floyd rose floating trem is somewhat similar to that evertune bridge in that bending strings results in a less-bend.... if you are using light springs, you can bend the hell out of the string and against the spring you get a lesser bend... vs. a hardtail.

Still amazing stuff... I think I am not good enough to be able to use the tech to its fullest advantage.
 
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Good stuff guys. Yes it seems that 12-tone is the way to go for me. Because i like to improvise in all keys and play many styles of music.

This might turn out to be a good investment. If i decide to plunge into this, i will document it for you guys, and make some videos.

i do want a nice classical guitar though, which probably will come first.
 
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Listen to the guitar music you own that was recorded without using true temperament necks, Buzz Lightyear offsets etc - does it ALL sound out of tune ? Didn't think so.
 
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richard parker said:
Listen to the guitar music you own that was recorded without using true temperament necks, Buzz Lightyear offsets etc - does it ALL sound out of tune ? Didn't think so.
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Yes your right look at some of Hendrix work or any older blues from the 50s an 60s great music recorded and played on some of the most horrible equipment and instruments but now we have all this technology and the music is well ........ But you have to admit a Guitar that never goes out of tune mixed with a neck that has almost perfect intonation sounds very tempting.
 
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I've played a few guitars that are done like that.

Now,I'm not against them at all but just to play the other side,

Let me give you a few of the downsides...

Fret work costs a TON of money plus most shops won't even mess with them for dresses or levels and you can all but forget refrets.

Also, if you play in a band with another guitar player you will almost ALWAYS be out of time with them plus you will also be out with the bass player.

In addition to that they do feel funny and do require some getting used to.
 
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I just want to add one thing...if anybody wants to make a demo of an electric guitar that "plays perfectly in tune all the time" try recording one that features something besides a massively distorted guitar playing nothing except power chords, dyads and odd dissonant partial chords...all being played by a guy that has a picking hand thats as subtle as a Mac Truck...

Just a thought...
 
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Here goes some other vids one is the TT on an acoustic and a guy in a live band situation. I dont think it would be any more out of tune then playing a regular guitar along side another guitarist.
 
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the guy who invented fire said:
I just want to add one thing...if anybody wants to make a demo of an electric guitar that "plays perfectly in tune all the time" try recording one that features something besides a massively distorted guitar playing nothing except power chords, dyads and odd dissonant partial chords...all being played by a guy that has a picking hand thats as subtle as a Mac Truck...

Just a thought...
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Heeeyyyyaaa I resemble that remark! HA!
 
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That just looks annoying. It's looks like someone did a really bad refretting job and decided "Eh, sounds good, let's sell it". Like an eight year old said "I bet I could do that". Any of these giving you a clear picture of what I think of that idea? Give me a standard guitar with straight frets and I'll make it sound in tune. The average person doesn't care as long as the singer is good and the lead licks rock. All these fancy things like the Novax designed guitars are just the OCD person saying "I can't stand that note being one hair of a cent flat".
 
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