poweredbysoul
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Just wondering what you all think and why.
Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
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UberMetalDood
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
You're comparing apples to oranges. The JB is a high-output alnico pickup with an emphasis in the upper mids. The Super Distortion is a hot ceramic pickup with emphasis in the low mids.
They both do everything quite well. The Super Distortion sounds great for clean jazz and blues, mid-gain, and high-gain music. I'd give a SLIGHT advantage to the JB for clean playing, and an advantage to the Super Distortion for high-gain stuff.
A better comparison would be the JB and the Dimarzio Norton (DP 160). It has an emphasis in the middle, high-mid frequencies. It's Dimarzio's most versatile humbucker in my opinion.
I personally think it's better than the JB. I say that because I think it's better split and less muddy for high-gain. They both have a great midrange crunch but I like the trademark Dimarzio "aw" sound the Norton has.
I also think the Norton and JB pair up better with other neck pickups than that Super Distortion. I had a harder time trying to match the Super Distortion to a neck pickup. The only neck pickups I really liked it with was the Paf Pro and Air Norton.
You're comparing apples to oranges. The JB is a high-output alnico pickup with an emphasis in the upper mids. The Super Distortion is a hot ceramic pickup with emphasis in the low mids.
They both do everything quite well. The Super Distortion sounds great for clean jazz and blues, mid-gain, and high-gain music. I'd give a SLIGHT advantage to the JB for clean playing, and an advantage to the Super Distortion for high-gain stuff.
A better comparison would be the JB and the Dimarzio Norton (DP 160). It has an emphasis in the middle, high-mid frequencies. It's Dimarzio's most versatile humbucker in my opinion.
I personally think it's better than the JB. I say that because I think it's better split and less muddy for high-gain. They both have a great midrange crunch but I like the trademark Dimarzio "aw" sound the Norton has.
I also think the Norton and JB pair up better with other neck pickups than that Super Distortion. I had a harder time trying to match the Super Distortion to a neck pickup. The only neck pickups I really liked it with was the Paf Pro and Air Norton.
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marcello252
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
...and you almost completely disappear in the rhythm...
just kiddin', but, really, for rhythm the Jb is not the best pickup in my opinion, at least in my experience.
...and you almost completely disappear in the rhythm...
just kiddin', but, really, for rhythm the Jb is not the best pickup in my opinion, at least in my experience.
UberMetalDood
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JB6464
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
Yea right !
Say that to all the 80's and 90's Pro bands who's done to many world tours to count now . :wave:
Jb in a Marshall screams dominate guitar tones for rhythm and lead and it's a mid/high toned amp.
And if anything, a JB would help some of the new guitarist in touring bands using shelved mids in their setups by giving the amp some mids . I've seen so many bands today where the guitar players are not cutting in the mix because they shelf the mids out.
Now i would agree a JB with a Marshall and V30's would be to much,yuck.
...and you almost completely disappear in the rhythm...
just kiddin', but, really, for rhythm the Jb is not the best pickup in my opinion, at least in my experience.
Yea right !
Say that to all the 80's and 90's Pro bands who's done to many world tours to count now . :wave:
Jb in a Marshall screams dominate guitar tones for rhythm and lead and it's a mid/high toned amp.
And if anything, a JB would help some of the new guitarist in touring bands using shelved mids in their setups by giving the amp some mids . I've seen so many bands today where the guitar players are not cutting in the mix because they shelf the mids out.
Now i would agree a JB with a Marshall and V30's would be to much,yuck.
AudioWonderland
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
:nono::smack:
1) The only thing resembling a jazz tone is the beginning part where he is clearly using the neck pickup or a combo at best, not the SD. He switches to SD later in the clip and it clearly is not a jazz tone by any definition. "Clean" /= "Jazz"
2) You want real jazz tones? Try out guys like Grant Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AsWLMUdIZk
Joe Pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWa6aChSf1w&feature=related
Kenny Burrell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXM047TWqjY&feature=related
Wes Montgomery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U&feature=related
:nono::smack:
1) The only thing resembling a jazz tone is the beginning part where he is clearly using the neck pickup or a combo at best, not the SD. He switches to SD later in the clip and it clearly is not a jazz tone by any definition. "Clean" /= "Jazz"
2) You want real jazz tones? Try out guys like Grant Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AsWLMUdIZk
Joe Pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWa6aChSf1w&feature=related
Kenny Burrell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXM047TWqjY&feature=related
Wes Montgomery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U&feature=related
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
I can see why people would like the Super Distortion better for rhythm than the JB, but for lead? Even in a guitar that otherwise works poorly with the JB, it's usually still great for lead.
As far as versatility, that depends more on the guitar. In a guitar where the JB doesn't sound thin, it's a pretty versatile pickup. Older Jeff Beck demonstrates that pretty well.
The Super Distortion seems less picky about what guitar it goes in.
I can see why people would like the Super Distortion better for rhythm than the JB, but for lead? Even in a guitar that otherwise works poorly with the JB, it's usually still great for lead.
As far as versatility, that depends more on the guitar. In a guitar where the JB doesn't sound thin, it's a pretty versatile pickup. Older Jeff Beck demonstrates that pretty well.
The Super Distortion seems less picky about what guitar it goes in.
IanBallard
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
My personal experiences with both pickups put the Super D in the "more versatile and overall appealing" category. Most of the guitars I've played with a JB sound muddy and awful... I usually switch to the neck pup which was usually a '59 when I'd try those guitars. Most of which were mahogany LP-style axes. The Super D, on the other hand, I had hard-mounted in my Strat, as well as having played them in real Les Pauls, Charvels an SG and a few others I can't remember and all those guitars sounded wonderful and balanced. The Super D never sounds thin or bright, but the bass never gets boomy or too thick to my ear.
A true masterpiece from the DiMarzio guys, imho.
My personal experiences with both pickups put the Super D in the "more versatile and overall appealing" category. Most of the guitars I've played with a JB sound muddy and awful... I usually switch to the neck pup which was usually a '59 when I'd try those guitars. Most of which were mahogany LP-style axes. The Super D, on the other hand, I had hard-mounted in my Strat, as well as having played them in real Les Pauls, Charvels an SG and a few others I can't remember and all those guitars sounded wonderful and balanced. The Super D never sounds thin or bright, but the bass never gets boomy or too thick to my ear.
A true masterpiece from the DiMarzio guys, imho.
JB6464
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
JB- muddy !
Maybe bright and mid-punchy but i can't see it muddy. The low end is'nt as tight as a ceramic pu.
JB- muddy !
Maybe bright and mid-punchy but i can't see it muddy. The low end is'nt as tight as a ceramic pu.
UberMetalDood
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SFW
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
Jerry Cantrell, Dave Mustaine, Warren DiMartini and a host of other players would dissagree with you.
...and you almost completely disappear in the rhythm...
just kiddin', but, really, for rhythm the Jb is not the best pickup in my opinion, at least in my experience.
Jerry Cantrell, Dave Mustaine, Warren DiMartini and a host of other players would dissagree with you.
marcello252
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
exactly what I had.
Maybe it was my rig, maybe my way of playing, but the JB jump out awesome for the lead part, for the rhythm mine sounded monotone and a bit annoying, something like a carpet under the rest of the band.
My cc/59 hybrid sounds way better in rhythm, a little less than the Jb in lead but it's still good enough.
exactly what I had.
Maybe it was my rig, maybe my way of playing, but the JB jump out awesome for the lead part, for the rhythm mine sounded monotone and a bit annoying, something like a carpet under the rest of the band.
My cc/59 hybrid sounds way better in rhythm, a little less than the Jb in lead but it's still good enough.
marcello252
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108Dragon
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Re: Whats more versatile a JB or Dimarzio DP100?
I'm with Dr. Ad with this one.
You should probably set your guitar up so that it sounds good with your rig with flat eq. Then dial it in for the venue. There are too many guitar combinations and amp rigs to say that one or the other pickup would be the silver bullet. And then there are too many different tastes and opinions of what the perfect tone is to say either is the most versatile. I like the JB because I know how to use it to get what I need out of it. Personally, I prefer the Dimarzio DP151 PAF Pro to the 100.. and the then the 152 Super3 over either of those..
I'm with Dr. Ad with this one.
You should probably set your guitar up so that it sounds good with your rig with flat eq. Then dial it in for the venue. There are too many guitar combinations and amp rigs to say that one or the other pickup would be the silver bullet. And then there are too many different tastes and opinions of what the perfect tone is to say either is the most versatile. I like the JB because I know how to use it to get what I need out of it. Personally, I prefer the Dimarzio DP151 PAF Pro to the 100.. and the then the 152 Super3 over either of those..
