What's the next big thing for the amp world?

Something I'd really like (that's not guitar amp specific) is a better solution for live sound in the small DIY venues where I play and see most shows. The standard setup hasn't changed since I started going to see live music 30 years ago - unmiked acoustic drums, half stacks, whatever the bassist has, and a small PA for vocals only. I'm used to it and it has its charms, but it seems like today's power amp, mixer, and speaker technology should make it easier to get a good consistent live mix even in those humble situations.

The digital mixers are awesome

My xair by Behringer has Bass amp settings , vocalist male or female , amd custom settings for inputs at the touch of a button

Pitch correction
compressor

all that

I just connected to my powered speakers and

ta-ds
 
So what are the latest "iconic" tones? Does djent count? It seems like most of the answers here call back to previous generations of amplifiers. That's totally fine with me, but are you satisfied with the tones you can get from current gear? I think my gripe is not being able to replicate the feel of a big amp with a small amp. Maybe the tones are there, but without moving the air, I just don't think it feels the same. I'm also not actually certain physics will allow this problem to be solved.
 
So what are the latest "iconic" tones? Does djent count? It seems like most of the answers here call back to previous generations of amplifiers. That's totally fine with me, but are you satisfied with the tones you can get from current gear? I think my gripe is not being able to replicate the feel of a big amp with a small amp. Maybe the tones are there, but without moving the air, I just don't think it feels the same. I'm also not actually certain physics will allow this problem to be solved.

Well, so far, iconic tones are still Fender, Marshall and Vox. Possibly a Boogie, but they have so many sounds, there isn't 1 in particular- even Dual Rects have different tones.
 
Can't believe no one has said this yet...AI that sets the knobs where they NEED to be for this tone or that tone. Not where your dumb@$$ and deaf ears thinks they belong.

Bob - "Fender - Please set the amp for Stevie Ray Vaughn, Pride and Joy"

Amp - "This is the best I can do with a humbucker, Bob. Would you like me to compensate with EQ and Resonance filters, or would you prefer to switch to a Single coil guitar?"

Bob - "Adjust please"

Amp - "Is this adequate?"

Bob - "Yes, save as SRV with Lonestar Strat"
 
Can't believe no one has said this yet...AI that sets the knobs where they NEED to be for this tone or that tone. Not where your dumb@$$ and deaf ears thinks they belong.

Bob - "Fender - Please set the amp for Stevie Ray Vaughn, Pride and Joy"

Amp - "This is the best I can do with a humbucker, Bob. Would you like me to compensate with EQ and Resonance filters, or would you prefer to switch to a Single coil guitar?"

Bob - "Adjust please"

Amp - "Is this adequate?"

Bob - "Yes, save as SRV with Lonestar Strat"

Fail. Still requires the same person to set up a microphone as input.
 
Something I'd really like (that's not guitar amp specific) is a better solution for live sound in the small DIY venues where I play and see most shows. The standard setup hasn't changed since I started going to see live music 30 years ago - unmiked acoustic drums, half stacks, whatever the bassist has, and a small PA for vocals only. I'm used to it and it has its charms, but it seems like today's power amp, mixer, and speaker technology should make it easier to get a good consistent live mix even in those humble situations.

This is actually doable, relatively inexpensive and its theoretical an extremely large market... But I think it's not sexy enough for the average guitarist and amp companies don't do a great job of figuring out what we need... It's more of "here's some more stuff that incrementally moves forward."

What you're talking about is room analysis and it's ridiculously cheap and simple these days. A good front of house engineer "rings out a room" so that he knows where dead and feedback spots are in the room and by frequency.

There have been auto systems out there for ages, literally 20 plus years but they are limited to front of house.. kind of making it easy for an engineer with very little experience to avoid feedback and to get a good EQ curve for the room.

All of that would be completely available if you want to build it into your gear. The way it works, is a built in computer takes over your piece of gear... anything from a PA to an amp...and it generates extremely low to high notes going up and down over and over.

And then you set a reference mic out in the room. Reference mics are nearly flat microphone and in theory you could sample multiple places. In fact after a couple of sweeps, the algorithm should understand quite a bit about the size and the reverberation and dead spots in the room so the app could direct you around the room... now go closer to the back... now come closer to the front go to the right go to the left.

Of course with non-directional speakers it can't maximize every single position but it could do a good average that means you sound good and have low opportunities for feedback and dead spots.

It could also ask you to play that instrument at performance settings and let the reference mic record that as well.. this is exactly the type of adjustments that front of house engineers do in practically every engagement.

Of course your PA will be set in a completely different place and different amps will be in different spots so they will need to do their own sweeps regarding their own speakers.

Downside is musicians have got to be there early and get everybody in the room to be quiet but that's something I like to do anyway..

Once the room fills up with warm bodies, the curve can change considerably.. but an intelligent algorithm, working with that reference mic, could make onstage adjustments in real time.... Ie "I know what the frequency response of this room is like I understand the damping and hot spots and I even know what this particular guitar sounded like through this amp earlier... It doesn't sound that anyway anymore so I'm going to make some adjustments." Again professional front of house engineers do this constantly through an entire performance.

This isn't rocket science at all. All of the technology is available. But there's no demand because the average band doesn't think about this stuff.. they don't have a front of house engineer to teach them how important these steps are.

So I would say something like 70 or 80% of the bands in the world, who do not have front of house engineers, would greatly benefit from something like this. And if it was ubiquitous the cost would be negligible.. You're talking about an algorithm that's already been developed, a ridiculously cheap synthesizer chip and a wireless reference mic. Reference mics are cheap, so the whole thing wouldn't cost a manufacturer 100 bucks.

On the other hand I do not expect this to happen anytime soon. Again the average user doesn't understand any of this and frankly may not be performing to the level where it really matters.

And it would be very unlikely for manufacturers to try to take the lead on this. Although the market is extremely large, it's simply isn't sexy... It'd be very difficult to get any professional endorsements because professionals have pro audio engineers.

But one day, somehow, sometime technology is going to get so ridiculously cheap that this is the last great opportunity.. and then you'll find it in everything,vand at the same time, we will be buying the greatest guitars ever built for $499 :-)
 
It's already included in the Mark 1 brain;)

Hendricks said, when you hit a bad note hold on to it and then slide a half cup either direction and it sounds you did it on purpose :-)

Good application of capture theory!
 
How about a three band EQ before the gain stage (like the early Mesas) to make it as tight or loose as I want as well as a normal tone stack? Or have the lows gently roll off as you increase the gain so it’s not anemic set semi-clean?
 
AI would be a useful tool for setting up musical tones, but to some people it could also be a crutch. To me I say, anything that stops me from fiddling with knobs and parameters for any longer than I have to is a big plus
 
How about a three band EQ before the gain stage (like the early Mesas) to make it as tight or loose as I want as well as a normal tone stack? Or have the lows gently roll off as you increase the gain so it’s not anemic set semi-clean?
Two things I'm doing with my Rocktron Voodu Valve:
  1. I always make sure I address the lows and the mids before gain stage, then I play with the 4-band parametric eq. Working way better than just playing with the tone stack. I'm doing the same things with my guitar modelers. Pre-eq all the way for me.
  2. I have a patch where the expression pedal is controlling many parameters at once. It starts with full gain, expression at toe. When the expression is going to heel for cleaner sound, the gain and the mids are going down, the volume and the lows and the reverb are going up. Very powerful patch.
 
Or have the lows gently roll off as you increase the gain so it’s not anemic set semi-clean?

Most modern distortion pedals handle this in some way or another, all the way back to the DS-1. I would not be suprised if this isn't something you could easily tweak yourself on most amps
 
AI would be a useful tool for setting up musical tones, but to some people it could also be a crutch. To me I say, anything that stops me from fiddling with knobs and parameters for any longer than I have to is a big plus

Yeah I agree 100%, we do need to dial in our sound but it's all a trade off...

In a really small venue, it's reasonable to walk out and hear yourself in the mix...

But it's easy to get caught up in stage sound in larger venues and end up with sloppy spillover that garbles the sound for the audience. Algorithmic mixing can fix this and you would get similar results if all the sound producing gear had similar intelligence.

Unfortunately, it really isn't possible to go to the next stage... One of the reasons front of house engineers get the big bucks;). when a pro puts the mix together they build what is called a mixed pyramid.. getting the bottom and in rhythm section in place before adding everything else on top.

Most important, they assign spaces for individual instruments... So they may slash the top end of electric guitar in favor of cymbols and they may roll off the bottom end of guitar if it is conflicting with the upper end of bass.

If you're ever in a pro event during sound check, ask them to solo the guitar channel in the headphones... Depending on the genre and facility, you might hear a very thin tone, as described above, but the sound is perfect in the mix
 
Two things I'm doing with my Rocktron Voodu Valve:
  1. I always make sure I address the lows and the mids before gain stage, then I play with the 4-band parametric eq. Working way better than just playing with the tone stack. I'm doing the same things with my guitar modelers. Pre-eq all the way for me.
  2. I have a patch where the expression pedal is controlling many parameters at once. It starts with full gain, expression at toe. When the expression is going to heel for cleaner sound, the gain and the mids are going down, the volume and the lows and the reverb are going up. Very powerful patch.

I knew I wasn’t alone in understanding how important pre-EQ is for the voicing of a drive sound.



Most modern distortion pedals handle this in some way or another, all the way back to the DS-1. I would not be suprised if this isn't something you could easily tweak yourself on most amps
That makes a lot of sense.
 
Give me a 120w JVM that fits on a pedal board, and a 4x12 speaker cabinet that only weighs 40lbs... And still sounds like I want it to.

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Give me a 120w JVM that fits on a pedal board, and a 4x12 speaker cabinet that only weighs 40lbs... And still sounds like I want it to.

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Getting a sound profile of your JVM into a PowerStage is probably the closest you can get but I’m not positive it will be 1:1 and whatever your presence and resonance settings were at the time of profile will be baked in. I’ve heard profiles start to go a little bit of course when you start changing the EQ.
 
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