Where you do stand on wrapping strings with locking tuners?

[NegativeEase]

This is clearly the work of an unstable mind.

I would like to demote all of you "psychos" who perform only a 1/4" wrap on your lockers down to "slightly maladjusted"

As you cannot share that title with the kind of person who would string their machine heads like this picture above.

The Horror,.... the horror.

 

[weepingminotaur]

Should be a promotion, though, no?

 

[NegativeEase]

Should be a promotion, though, no?

Yeah, I guess it could be looked at that way.

 

[Ascension]

Just my opinion, Keisel and Paul Reed Smith are using locking tuners with Floyds because it's good for the profit margin. It's surely not because they found it necessary to enhance performance. Redundancy is for airplanes and so on. Not really needed on guitars.

More likely they just buy the same tuners in bulk for every guitar they sell same with Suhr. Locking tuners just make string changes faster, easier and more consitant no matter what and have been using them so long it's just normal now. To chase a rabbit here the unique Goto built lockers Washburn used in the mid 90's while Grover Jackson was running the US shop are my favorites. Drop the string through the bridge pull it tight through the tuner and tighten to pitch. Never moves again and just bend and clip at the post. They will spoil you when you get used to them.

 

[DCikes88]

This is clearly the work of an unstable mind.

You guys don't get it.
This is a very specific type of wind required for all songs that start in e standard and gradually end up in DGC#FG#C#.

 

[DCikes88]

"slightly maladjusted"

Thanks for naming my next band! You are entitled to 5% royalties.

 

[Chris Pile]

These are the clients I lecture on buying fingernail clippers or a wire cutter. I had one guy who was astounded when he saw me use a string winder! "Get one for a buck at the front counter on your wait out, okay?".

 

[Mincer]

This is beautiful and exactly what I do with non locking tuners. Ive never had a problem with but I still bought lo king tuners because .. well, you know, I felt that I needed them.

With non-locking tuners, I do this, but the first wrap goes over the string going through the hole, and the rest go under.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Just my opinion, Keisel and Paul Reed Smith are using locking tuners with Floyds because it's good for the profit margin. It's surely not because they found it necessary to enhance performance. Redundancy is for airplanes and so on. Not really needed on guitars.

I don't think that was a factor. I think when they added a Floyd to an existing model, they just kept the stock tuners.
Wouldn't make sense to switch to non-locking - at that price point, the difference in cost is insignificant.
And even though they serve no purpose as far as tuning stability goes, they do make string changes easier.

 

[NegativeEase]

With non-locking tuners, I do this, but the first wrap goes over the string going through the hole, and the rest go under.

This is the way.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

 

[Demanic]

Locking tuners? I usually don't even have a full turn. 90° from the point of entry is the norm for me.

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[El Dunco]

I don't think that was a factor. I think when they added a Floyd to an existing model, they just kept the stock tuners.
Wouldn't make sense to switch to non-locking - at that price point, the difference in cost is insignificant.
And even though they serve no purpose as far as tuning stability goes, they do make string changes easier.

A guitar I had a Floyd installed on, through a miscommunication, they put grover locking rotomatics on when they were intended for a completely different guitar and I nearly switched them back out a few times due to redundancy but the time I save stringing it keeps making me reconsider.

 

[Mononoaware]

People who lock down with barely a wrap are psychos.

Oh dear.

Stares hard at himself in the mirror. Am I a psycho? Maybe I am.

 

[NegativeEase]

Oh dear.

Stares hard at himself in the mirror. Am I a psycho? Maybe I am.

Haha, it's just hyperbole

But there is real science as to why you should wrap around at least 3/4 of the post.

 

[Bill Dennis]

I do 1 full wrap plus the addition of part of a wrap when tuning up to pitch on lockers.

I want the string to impart its energy with surface area around the entire post.

People who lock down with barely a wrap are psychos.

Then I should be feared...

 

[Securb]

If you want to cringe, look at how some people tie on nylon strings. I have seen sailor's knots and things akin to shoelace knots on the bridges.

 

[NegativeEase]

If you want to cringe, look at how some people tie on nylon strings. I have seen sailor's knots and things akin to shoelace knots on the bridges.

Don't you know? Nylon Strings should be tied with a fisherman's not on acoustic machine heads.

 

[NegativeEase]

Then I should be feared...

Sorry, unfortunately you haven't read later in the thread, Let me update -Now, Psychos have been demoted to just "slightly maladjusted". due to later posts demonstrating greater levels of craziness with machine head wraps.

 

[PFDarkside]

This is clearly the work of an unstable mind.

That looks like the first time I changed an E string 25 years ago!