Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?
I came across this thread and found it intriguing, so I thought I would offer my viewpoint.
First, my apologies for digging up an old post that it seems has been left to die without any input from the woman’s perspective, but I thought I could possibly contribute some useful information for those who are interested.
I am a woman and have been playing electric guitar since I was 14 and I am now 35. I took private lessons from age 14 to 18 and then briefly went to Berklee College of Music in Boston as a guitar performance major. I currently do not play in a band or have anyone to jam with on a regular basis, I spend my free time noodling around to backing tracks in a room at my house, which I assume a lot of people, male and female, do.
So to attempt to answer the big question: Why aren’t there more female electric guitar players?
Well, I can only tell you what I have experienced or know and another woman’s perspective maybe completely different than mine.
Well, I think simply put, it’s not ladylike. It is a term that I experienced hearing when I was little. If I wanted to play with the boys, the games they were playing or the same toys they played with I was told that wasn’t ladylike. And this wasn’t told to me by my mother, I am sure she felt the same way to an extent just by what she was taught, but she never said it to me outright. It was said to me by the teachers and babysitters and those adults that look after you at daycare centers. I guess it’s like the little girl who plays with boys grows up to be the woman who sleeps around with men – I don’t know honestly but that is what I understood unladylike to be.
I think women are just as guilty as men on steering their daughters or younger women from electric guitar. I am speaking mostly of women who have no experience in playing music, so the general public. I would assume that women who play instruments would have a different mindset because they have actually experienced working with other musicians both male and female. I think it is done with the best intentions, they believe that they are looking out for her best interest but they are only judging the atmosphere by the stereotypes of rock and electric guitar that they know about. For example, I knew at the age of 6 that I wanted to play electric guitar. I remember going to my mother and telling her that I wanted to play electric guitar. My mother spent $500 and bought me a piano and lessons. Now I am not sure where guitar was misheard as piano, but it must have happened. By the second lesson the teacher told my mother that I was not interested in the piano, it was obvious. My mom got upset and told me that she wasn’t going to spend any more money on instruments since I didn’t stick with the piano. It wasn’t until I was 14 and again approached my mother telling her that I wanted to play electric guitar. After much discussion, me, my dad and my mom went to a pawn shop and got a $60 acoustic guitar. She then through the local college found a week long summer guitar camp. The instructor was impressed enough that he told my mom that I had a knack for the guitar and that I should continue playing, whether it was formal lessons or just pursuing it on my own. So that’s how I started with the lessons – but the information had to come from someone else me telling my parents wasn’t good enough. But that doesn’t happen with boys does it? I could be wrong, I always knew guys that got electric guitars without having to ask for them or expressing any interest. I am sure with some guys they had to get their own if they wanted one or that there were conditions to getting the guitar, but were they actually ignored or presented with a more accepted instrument to play?
Another example of women holding back women, that isn’t guitar related but I witnessed it earlier this year, which to me proves that the whole this is for boys and that is for girls is still unfortunately alive and well. I was in Target and I heard the cry of a little girl. I decided to peak around the aisle to see if she was hurt or needed help. I look to see the little girl sobbing head down with her mother towering over her. The little girl was saying “But I like them, there’s nothing wrong with it. I don’t understand why I can’t have them.” Her mother responded. “Because Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are for boys, this is what boys play with, you are a girl, pick something else from the other aisle.” That’s just sad, I felt sorry for her, I got to play with TMNT when I was a kid (but oddly enough not a guitar). So it’s still there, I think that it’s getting better, but it’s not something where there’s a meeting and everyone says okay we are changing the rules and now boys and girls can like the same things.
Another point is that Rock and Roll and the electric guitar is very sexual. We all know that woman talk about sex just like men, but we are taught not to express that in public. We can talk about it all we want in private and do, but once again it’s unladylike to do so in public. So it doesn’t surprise me that when there are women electric guitar players, while they have chops, it always seems to me that despite the revealing clothing, they are holding something back and the whole performance is uncomfortable. I agree with another post on here that I read that the women players do not move me emotionally like the male players. But I think this is due to the understanding that women are more emotional (can be seen as whiney) and some of these women may be suppressing that so that they can fit in with the rock and roll scene and be tough. I am sure some of the women are just that way, but women have the impression that men don’t like to deal with women’s emotions so they may just suppress all that at the cost of their playing to fit in. The playing should be good but it’s also an art. I really wasn’t encouraged to get into a band and just jam to learn the art of it and bouncing those ideas off of someone else, I was told the route I needed to go was through formal lesson and school so that I would know everything. After all of that, I find out that most male guitar players don’t learn that way (the ones I know didn’t at least), they learn from each other in a jam or band setting. Of course there are more of them playing so it’s easier to find people to play with. I often noticed that when I went to someone’s house to jam all the guys were uncomfortable and nothing got done or the other guitar player would ask me a bunch of question making me run through a gauntlet of information to prove I was good enough to play, and I wasn’t auditioning for a band we were just people getting together to jam, who cares who knows what at that point and we were in high school we were all bad probably. The best is the band members girlfriends that would be pissed cause you were there, and supposedly taking attention away from them which would then land you out of a band or jam session cause he isn’t giving up what he’s getting to further the cause of having more female guitar players in rock music.
Oh and all that girl power crap is just icky. I have never liked it, I wanted to take guitar seriously and be seen as a good guitar player, not a good female guitar player. Separating the girls to help them feel comfortable to play isn’t the answer I think it creates a bigger divide, like the girls are getting special treatment. If you’re going to have guitar camps they should be for anyone wanting to play the guitar or anyone wanting to learn how to work on them or whatever. It would be up to the people sponsoring it to enforce a “be nice or leave” rule. Men and women are different, not at an intellectual level but at a social and communication level and I think that having guitar workshops for younger kids of both genders can get them to learn how to work with one another would be beneficial.
Also, I don’t need female guitar players to look up to in order to be interested in guitar. That wasn’t a factor when I was 6, but the music I heard (my mom is into Clapton, BB King, Buddy Guy, SRV, etc. and has a massive record collection) made me want to play.
As far as marketing to women, I play guitar and I like guitars and amps and pedals, if I need/want something I will buy it. I recently purchased an expensive Fender Stratocaster from Fender directly, so if I want it I will buy it. I don’t frequent big box stores anymore since it seems that the sales guys job it to pick out the guitar he thinks I will like and then show me how to play it, not even letting me touch the thing to find out for myself. I have come across that a lot, men wanting to tell you what you want, but when I see them with other men they just follow the guy around and let him pick what he wants. I have found it’s different in smaller mom and pop type stores because they just want you to buy something, but those are getting harder and harder to find. I am not trying to buy the latest and greatest of anything to have more toys than other players. I do not get turned off by ads that feature scantily clad oiled up women licking guitars, it’s just very clear to me that ad isn’t intended for me and I may just skip over it or see the brand name on whatever the product is and if I’m interested I will research it later on the internet. The internet has opened up a lot of opportunities that weren’t accessible to me in 1994 when I was 14. There are video lessons on you tube as well as videos that show you how to swap out picks ups and input jacks and selector switches if you are inclined to work on things yourself, like me. I have used these videos when I wanted to install new pickups on my Fender Strat. So there are probably women and girls out there learning using these videos without having to worry about the stigma that some (not everyone) may impose on them. So I am hopeful that as the generations progress on, that things will change. For them to change instantly, I think a big company recognized by both musicians and non-musicians, such as Fender or Gibson maybe, would have to seriously endorse a female player and that players management would have to get her playing with big guitar players and have a whole team behind her to help her progress and grow. And if you think they won’t, they will if the money is there. Taylor Swift and Beyonce have teams of vocal coaches and choreographers along with their PR and management to put them where they are because there is money to be made. If it is marketed right people will buy it.
In the end I just want to be treated like an individual who is interested in playing guitar. I don’t want to be singled out or celebrated because of my gender and the choice of instrument I choose to play. If I show up to play and don’t know something don’t ignore me, show me what I’m missing. If I know something you don’t, don’t get mad about it, just ask me and I will be more than happy to show you what I know.
Sorry for the long post
--Elizabeth