why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

Problem Solved!

http://www.sta-tuned.com/electric-guitar-systems/g-style-system.html

I actually have a gold gibson TP-6 tailpiece layin around so i just ordered the string clamp. So awesome

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

There's nothing wrong with wanting your guitar to be in tune. It doesn't mean you are cursed. It means you are actually listening....which is a good thing for a musician right? Headstock tuners are good for quick checks between songs, but if your guitar is going out noticeably after every song, you should look at either re slotting your nut, or possibly buying one of the groovy self lubricating ones from graph-tech. Nut sauce is worth the money too.

 

[dystrust]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

Problem Solved!

http://www.sta-tuned.com/electric-guitar-systems/g-style-system.html

I actually have a gold gibson TP-6 tailpiece layin around so i just ordered the string clamp. So awesome

That reminds me of the clamp that Kahler used in the 80s. A good idea in theory, but it only works as well as your nut is cut. I also wonder if it would work as well as locking tuners.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

That reminds me of the clamp that Kahler used in the 80s. A good idea in theory, but it only works as well as your nut is cut. I also wonder if it would work as well as locking tuners.

what do you mean "As well as your nut is cut" ??

doesnt the clamp take the nut slots out of the equation? (other than the string height)

 

[metalmachine]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

all i have to say is...... thats not very rock and roll dude

 

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

all i have to say is...... thats not very rock and roll dude

what? the tuner or the string lock?

 

[metalmachine]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

checking your tuner constantly and worrying to death about being flat..... i only read the first post

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

There's nothing wrong with wanting your guitar to be in tune. It doesn't mean you are cursed. It means you are actually listening....which is a good thing for a musician right? Headstock tuners are good for quick checks between songs, but if your guitar is going out noticeably after every song, you should look at either re slotting your nut, or possibly buying one of the groovy self lubricating ones from graph-tech. Nut sauce is worth the money too.

Being in tune is a wonderful thing,providing one doesn't obsess about it and ruin the overall fun of playing...Even in tune,we all know a guitar isn't "really" in tune all over the fretboard,but close enough for Rock N Roll.. ;o)

 

[metalmachine]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

lol my bass player can hardly notice when he is a half step off

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

... but if your guitar is going out noticeably after every song, you should look at either re slotting your nut, or possibly buying one of the groovy self lubricating ones from graph-tech.

I have an LTD M-50 with black Carvin tuners and Graph Tech nut and saddles. Once the strings finish stretching (1-2 days) I don't usually have to retune for about 4-6 days, I'm not a perfectionist though +/-2or 3% off is fine.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

I have an LTD M-50 with black Carvin tuners and Graph Tech nut and saddles. Once the strings finish stretching (1-2 days) I don't usually have to retune for about 4-6 days, I'm not a perfectionist though +/-2or 3% off is fine.

Bingo!

 

[blueman335]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

lol my bass player can hardly notice when he is a half step off

:lmao:

 

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

lol my bass player can hardly notice when he is a half step off

maybe his ears just suck haha :1:

 

[metalmachine]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

nah he is usaually just high. he is the only pothead in the band. we got a pot head, 2 alcoholics and a sober responsible drummer. yeah i know that last part is really hard to believe but its true

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

I have an LTD M-50 with black Carvin tuners and Graph Tech nut and saddles. Once the strings finish stretching (1-2 days) I don't usually have to retune for about 4-6 days, I'm not a perfectionist though +/-2or 3% off is fine.

electric guitarsstrings dont need 2 days to stretch. You can stretch them in yourself in a few minutes. From what you've just said, im guessing that its the way you string up/stretch in your strings that is causing tuning instability.

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

electric guitarsstrings dont need 2 days to stretch. You can stretch them in yourself in a few minutes. From what you've just said, im guessing that its the way you string up/stretch in your strings that is causing tuning instability.

I do stretch my strings like that but it still isn't 100%, no matter what I do for stretching I still have to retune 1-2 times in the first 1 or 2 days. It's not a big deal for me, I have two other guitars I can grab so I'm never hurting.

The point is that with my upgrades and 24-48 hours later I don't have to retune for almost a week.

 

[Aceman]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

I'll tell you why you have this problem: You have never played with me, or anyone else who b!tch slap you for playing with the knobs like they are your d!ck when we are supposed to be getting our rock on!!!

Seriously, in order:

#1 You change strings too often and don't properly stretch them
#2 You don't properly wrap/wind to the post
#3 On a LP (or any 3 per side) you don't tune up to pitch
#4 The nut is binding and needs lubed/recut
#4 The tuners just effing suck (I DID NOT run Kluson smack. They COULD be fine.)
#5 The truss is too loose/tight/messed up in general
#6 The neck is crappy in some fundamental way

After that, the only thing I got is you just have no balls. Rawk out with your cock out. I don't think I have ever encountered tuning so bad that a little attitude and some string English couldn't overcome. Or sometimes a lot. But as was mentioned, when playing Rock & Roll All Night, the 'tude that you indeed are going to do just that is way more important than intonation. see Hendrix for supreme examples of out of tune win (he also has some fail, to be fair, but after bashing it into an amp, wrangling the bar, playing with your teeth, and setting it on fire, "Little Wing" might sound more than a bit off - but Purple Haze? Rock that beyotch!!!!)

It's like stopping every couple minutes to adjust the pillows or change positions during sex - just ruins the mood. Lay her @$$ to the sheets and go to pound town!

Music is the same way - at least any of your more rock oriented.

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

Rawk out with your cock out.

PLAY NAKED!!!!!

 

[metalmachine]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

I'll tell you why you have this problem: You have never played with me, or anyone else who b!tch slap you for playing with the knobs like they are your d!ck when we are supposed to be getting our rock on!!!

Seriously, in order:

#1 You change strings too often and don't properly stretch them
#2 You don't properly wrap/wind to the post
#3 On a LP (or any 3 per side) you don't tune up to pitch
#4 The nut is binding and needs lubed/recut
#4 The tuners just effing suck (I DID NOT run Kluson smack. They COULD be fine.)
#5 The truss is too loose/tight/messed up in general
#6 The neck is crappy in some fundamental way

After that, the only thing I got is you just have no balls. Rawk out with your cock out. I don't think I have ever encountered tuning so bad that a little attitude and some string English couldn't overcome. Or sometimes a lot. But as was mentioned, when playing Rock & Roll All Night, the 'tude that you indeed are going to do just that is way more important than intonation. see Hendrix for supreme examples of out of tune win (he also has some fail, to be fair, but after bashing it into an amp, wrangling the bar, playing with your teeth, and setting it on fire, "Little Wing" might sound more than a bit off - but Purple Haze? Rock that beyotch!!!!)

It's like stopping every couple minutes to adjust the pillows or change positions during sex - just ruins the mood. Lay her @$$ to the sheets and go to pound town!

Music is the same way - at least any of your more rock oriented.

this

 

[blueman335]

Re: why do I have such an OCD with tuning?

I don't think I have ever encountered tuning so bad that a little attitude and some string English couldn't overcome. Or sometimes a lot...see Hendrix for supreme examples of out of tune win (he also has some fail...

I've certainly heard obviously out-of-tune guitars on stage often enough, even national acts at blues festivals. With solos you can get away with more by bending and vibrato. When you strum chords and you've got a string way off, it sounds like crap. No excuse these days for not stepping on a tuner pedal and taking a couple seconds to silently fix it, between songs or even during a song. No one's in that big a hurry. Being obviously out-of-tune song after song isn't 'rock and roll', it's being lazy or tone deaf. And it's annoying to listen to. Just like a singer who can't stay in key (think American Idle tryouts). As an entertainer, you have an obligation to be able to strum a chord without making people wince. We talk on and on here about infinite details of tone quality, and then not caring if you're close to being in tune? All part of the package baby.

Hendrix played in the days before chromatic tuners and was frequently pissed about the vibrato bar on his Strat throwing him out of tune on stage. Back then checking your tuning wasn't so easy, especially in a one-guitar band, and even moreso if your vibrato's thrown more than one string out.