Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

[SavageRiffer]

I have an SH-11 and it has more bass than the chart shows. In fact, it's kind of warm sounding pickup overall, but the EQ makes it seem like it would be bright with too little low end. I'm pretty sure a general consensus would agree on this, so why has it always stayed that way? Back when SD used numbers for the EQ, its was B3,M7,T7. To me, that does not represent an SH-11. I was going back and forth between my JB, Pegasus, and Custom Custom, and I don't hear any less bass than either of those. Just a suggesting the SH-11 get a more accurate representation on the EQ chart.

On a totally separate conversation, I don't know much about the Duality but that I like everything I've read about it, but hate that it needs a damn battery. Then looking at the specs, A2, similar EQ to the SH-11, I'm wondering if it's really just an active SH-11. Hmm, just curious.

 

[orpheo]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

SD won't fix the chart because they won't fix the website at all. The SH11 is just one of MANY who lack the right charts. Shame.

 

[orpheo]

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oh, the duality is a totally different beast on its own. For starters, the baseplate gives it away (not metal).

 

[gregory]

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They fixed the description of the SH-16 a short while back as well as the CA50 set just recently, so the statement that they won't fix the website at all is not true.

 

[Mincer]

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The CC is one of my favorite pickups, and I wouldn't say the chart is that far off. If I see a lot of bass on a chart, I tend to think of percussive lows with lots of thud to the notes. I don't hear that in the CC. Now, as far as the rainbow graphs being accurate...well...

 

[orpheo]

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They fixed the description of the SH-16 a short while back as well as the CA50 set just recently, so the statement that they won't fix the website at all is not true.

OMG really? I stand corrected!

 

[Clint 55]

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They still say several of the strat single coil sets are calibrated when they're only 3 of the same pickup with a rwrp.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

The CC is one of my favorite pickups, and I wouldn't say the chart is that far off. If I see a lot of bass on a chart, I tend to think of percussive lows with lots of thud to the notes. I don't hear that in the CC. Now, as far as the rainbow graphs being accurate...well...

It's not the type of bass response, but how much of it. I wasn't talking about the rainbow graphs by the way, I was talking about the little EQ bar graph charts. I think accuracy is important because if you're searching a perspective pickup and have a certain kind of gear, type of wood, or whatever characteristic you want the pickup to either augment or substitute, then the description makes a difference.

There is software that I'm sure Seymour Duncan has which shows a graphical EQ representation of a guitar signal. There are tons of those videos on Youtube. It shouldn't be that hard to measure where the frequencies are hitting what decibels and what not.

There are probably a lot of potential buyers looking at the Custom Custom and thinking "Everything seems right but just not enough low end." Who knows man. All I'm saying is that if Seymour Duncan is the leader in worldwide pickup sales, then they should put a little more effort into the descriptions. By the way, Dimarzio doesn't have a fancy website for a forum, but the general consensus is their descriptions are always very good.

 

[Chistopher]

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I agree with the description on the SD website. Try the Custom 5 and original Custom and you'll know just how much bass the Custom Custom doesn't have.

 

[Clint 55]

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They even lie, on the custom strat set for example, and have the output bars saying the middle is hotter than the neck and the bridge is hotter than the middle.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

Those EQ charts are all made up anyway. They have no factual basis.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

They still say all the strat single coil sets are calibrated when they're only 3 of the same pickup with a rwrp.

They even lie, on the custom strat set for example, and have the output bars saying the middle is hotter than the neck and the bridge is hotter than the middle.

OK man let's not get carried away here. Keep going down that road and next thing you know we'll be in heated conspiracy debate about how Seymour Duncan is secretly trying to steal Dimarzio's double-cream patent; in a thread that will end up "Thread Closed." LOL.

 

[Clint 55]

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Bwa ha ha

 

[gregory]

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Description of the CA 50 Set doesn't use the word calibrated.

Double-creme is a trademark, not a patent.

I'd like clarification on the SSL-5 "Calibrated" set, which I'm betting is bogus.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

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I'd like clarification on the SSL-5 "Calibrated" set, which I'm betting is bogus.

Are you referring to that set where the bridge pickup has three times the inductance of the neck and middle pickup?

 

[Chistopher]

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Are you referring to that set where the bridge pickup has three times the inductance of the neck and middle pickup?

This one. The colorful "heat" graphs say it's staggered, whether this is true or not is irrelevant because anyone who runs 3 SSL-5s is a total maniac and probably wouldn't notice anyways.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

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anyone who runs 3 SSL-5s is a total maniac and probably wouldn't notice anyways.

I have three on them in one Strat... but they all tap. But in general, yes, I can't believe they're even offering up three of them in a set like that.

 

[Clint 55]

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I'd like clarification on the SSL-5 "Calibrated" set, which I'm betting is bogus.

Of course it's bogus. The Vintage flats, both Alnico 2s, both Customs, Hots, and QPs all say they're "calibrated" when we all know they're all the exact same pickup. Some output bars even go the extra mile and lie saying the middle is hotter than the neck and the bridge is hotter than the middle.

 

[gregory]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

You'll stand a better chance getting the website fixed if you learn how to be nice.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Re: Why Doesn't Seymour Duncan Fix The Custom Custom SH-11 EQ Chart?

You'll stand a better chance getting the website fixed if you learn how to be nice.

My bad. I'm have a terrible habit of unintentionally offending snowflakes.