YOU Need A Les Paul

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

I love LP’s plenty, but I haven’t sprung for more than a couple of Epiphones. The two occasions I was in a Gibson kind of way, I opted for pointies. And I also bought a Faded V and an Explorer, respectively.

My fear about Les Pauls is that I’ll fly off the handle and won’t be able to stop buying them.

 

[Plessure]

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I think you might be taking my post a lil to personal. I just posted I like my guitar and suggest everyone should own one giving a few examples of the same model I would want. Never once intimating any other guitar is lesser of an instrument.

Yeah i understand this is a LP admiration thread. I just think debunking the LP is a little more intetesting. It's just not that good a guitar as its heritage makes it out to be.

Personal? Not in the least. Not sure how you get this idea. Your thread title is kinda personal though.

 

[shupe13]

YOU Need A Les Paul

I could personally never subscribe to a single manufacturer/model only way of thinking. If you lost your one and only and I handed you a guitar, could you finish the gig? Are you enough of a musician or would you pack it up and stomp off? If you could do the gig, obviously it’s personal preference.


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[Plessure]

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Or as I see it, no need for individual string height adjustment (you can adjust string volume on the individual pickup), weighs a ton (one of my favorite parts, my #1 Lester weighs in at 14lbs), no temptation for whammy bar nonsense, fat and creamy tones, and excellent classy styling with a Gibson head stock to crown it all off.

You also forgot to mention how Strats don't have tone controls on what is possibly the brightest inherent pickup design and location in all of guitars. And how there isn't a way to blend positions on a stock Strat.

But I do understand, if you can't handle the weight, powerful tone, and all the boo boos you get from its lack of contouring, you might as well get yourself an SG. But where I'm from, we suffer for our music and we like it!

String height adjustment is for playability, not just volume. Are you joking?

Yeah i suffer from my lack of bridge pickup tone control and i like it... Or on a serious note: 3 unnecessary kilograms isn't manly, just stupid. I'm not sure you really appreciate the concept of the solid body electric guitar.

 

[Plessure]

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Yes, but he did say ... "or at least have one pass through your hands for a while". You've done that and moved on to something you prefer. Never bad advice to urge players to play as many guitars as they can.

He didn't say that people should try as many guitars as possible. He said specifically that the LP is something every guitarist should try.

 

[ICTGoober]

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Back in the late 70s/ early 80's.... Guitar Player magazine published a cover story on Ace Frehley... In which Ace said, "All you need is a Les Paul and a Marshall stack to rule the world".... He wasn't wrong.

I can say with confidence that of the multiple famous players idolized in the decades since Les Paul and Gibson introduced it to the world, 95% of them has owned and played a Les Paul at some time in their career. They might be associated with something other than a LP, true - but they stroked the strings to make music just like all the multitude of unknowns down in the trenches. Les Pauls have been used in jazz, pop, rock and roll, country, metal - you name it! If it was guitar music - a Les Paul has played it. It would be easier to name players that DIDN'T play a LP, than to name players who did. Maybe they only used it for a year or two, or even just a few songs at home - but it has been the MUST HAVE axe for players since it was introduced.

You can hate it if you want - but you CANNOT deny the importance of a Les Paul guitar. IT RULES. PERIOD. If guitar importance in history was an Olympic event, Les Pauls would be 1, followed by Strats and then Teles in the 3 slot. You know it, I know it. Get over it.

 

[Chistopher]

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Yeah i understand this is a LP admiration thread. I just think debunking the LP is a little more intetesting. It's just not that good a guitar as its heritage makes it out to be.

What you're trying to say is like saying that because you think the original '74 Mustangs weren't really great by modern standards that all Mustangs are overated. It may or may not be true, but they were great for time and there are such a huge variety of Mustangs these days that it is impossible to prove it either way.

 

[Plessure]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

They’re both equally iconic. Both equals in the music world. Comes down to personal preference doesn’t it? Pretty one sided opinion huh?

Happy New Year.


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Not everything that's revered deserves it. Their being equally iconic doesn't mean they're equally good. In fact, the stratocaster is better. I've argued this. "7 kilograms of wood sounds 0.0003 very important % better" isn't an argument.

 

[PS412]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

Yes you do.

 

[Plessure]

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What you're trying to say is like saying that because you think the original '74 Mustangs weren't really great by modern standards that all Mustangs are overated. It may or may not be true, but they were great for time and there are such a huge variety of Mustangs these days that it is impossible to prove it either way.

By modern standards, neither the LP nor the stratocaster is top tier.

Look at the features emphasized for the respective models. The stratocaster has actual, nifty features that expand playability. The Les Paul has unnecessary weight machismo and that's it. It's not even a contest. We should be over this by now. Mistakes happen. Our collective elevation of the LP as comparable in importance to the stratocaster was a mistake.

 

[Clint 55]

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I can't play a box. No fun.

 

[Chistopher]

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String height adjustment is for playability, not just volume.

Then move your tune-o-matic, if the radius of your TOM being slightly off renders a guitar unplayable, there are bigger problems than your bridge.

 

[Wattage]

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Back in the late 70s/ early 80's.... Guitar Player magazine published a cover story on Ace Frehley... In which Ace said, "All you need is a Les Paul and a Marshall stack to rule the world".... He wasn't wrong.

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[justFred]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

Hmmmm? All these players were using the wrong guitar?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gibson_players

 

[esandes]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

I've been using strats (Fender and non-Fender copies) for most of my guitar playing years and then I finally bought a Gibson. Now I almost exclusively play the Gibson because it's so fine. The tone, design and craftsmanship is beyond exceptional.

My only complaint is the lack of contours. My strumming arm rubs the edge of the body a lot. I love the Fender contours, especially on the face of the body where the strumming arm rubs against.

 

[Darg1911]

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He didn't say that people should try as many guitars as possible. He said specifically that the LP is something every guitarist should try.

No, he didn't say that people should try as many quitars as possible. I added my own commentary.

So what?

 

[BTMN]

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Random thought time.



Y'all have a Happy New Year huh? :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

 

[TheRightTune]

Re: YOU Need A Les Paul

You might find people are a bit more in line with your opinion on http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/forum.php haha

 

[Thundermtn]

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The tones that a LP puts out are superior to everything else in a lot of players minds. They'll never be second to anything. There is a reason established guys that could get whatever they wanted for free were ditching their Fender's and desperately trying to find burst's, for the tone of Seth's humbuckers in a smooth and thick, big sounding rock guitar. Tone is subjective though, it's a tool to build a song with, I just don't care for single coils.

Before I even knew what a LP was, I was listening to my Dad's records and there was a tone that I could pick out as my favorite. The two songs that are responsible for me getting a guitar and learning to play were recorded with LP's as I would find out many years later.

No they're not as comfortable as some other stuff in a pure historical configuration, but you can get them with belly cuts and access heels, and a properly made one even in a historic configuration is only about 8.5#'s. If that's too much weight how do bass players even survive? Modern LP's are chambered, knocking on 7# and the 10+# Norlins from the 70's are toast.

They do have advantages though, how much easier is it to change caps on a LP vs. a Strat? Their scale length is easier to play for lots of people. The headstock doesn't have that uber phallic look to it. Break a string on a dark stage and it's easier to replace and the bridge design makes them less prone to breakage than other designs.

If you ever get a really good LP in your hands it's like heaven, I have two that I'll never sell. I have Fenders too, one that is really amazing, but they are more of a consumable. They're cheap and mostly sound good, but not as good a carefully hand picked LP to my ears.

 

[BTMN]

Truth is what you want it to be sometimes

Truth is what you want it to be sometimes

Truth be told I much prefer "Explorer" shaped guitars but I am a guitar fan all around. Strats, Vs, LPs, SGs, bring them on. If they look good and play good OH YEAH!!! Did NOT start the thread to ignite a debate. I just wanted to say how cool mine is and this model has proven to be.

My real Love! Hamer Standards, old and newer.